G Thatcher Demko (2014, 36th, VAN)

i'm not saying **** about him staying or not because it's impossible to know

i know for a fact that if i had the opportunity he had, i'd wait it out and go into free agency.

it's not like he can't sign with the canucks at a later date if he doesn't see a better fit in free agency.

we know, the same could be said for Colin White, Brock Boeser and Kyle Connor, or any College player, Zack Werenski, Jack Eichel etc etc. kinda off topic, any player can do this, even if they are drafted through the CHL, they just wait 2 years.
 
we know, the same could be said for Colin White, Brock Boeser and Kyle Connor, or any College player, Zack Werenski, Jack Eichel etc etc. kinda off topic, any player can do this, even if they are drafted through the CHL, they just wait 2 years.


Don't they re-enter the draft in the CHL if they don't accept a contract from the original team.
 
Point is that the whole speculation of him not signing in Vancouver is completely baseless. It's based off absolutely nothing. You rarely see high drafted players testing the market, and even more rarely goalies, so tell me, what's the ****ing point in "speculating" which team would be a better fit for him when it's not even confirmed that he's going to test the market? I EXPECT the player to sign for the initial team that drafted him if he's doing good, other speculations can start when there's actually something that could indicate that he's not going to sign with the team that owns his right.

I would also LOVE to hear you mention solely 5 or EVEN 10 teams where he wouldn't get a fair shot, because claiming that there's 20 or even 25 teams out there that would give him a great chance of being an NHL starter, treating him like some sort of messiah, is absolute ********. Most teams have at least one good goalie prospect, often 2. Demko would have to earn the job over those guys in the AHL. So if those guys suddenly outperforms Demko, they will likely take the starting job, and eventually, surpass him on the prospect chart. He's going to have to face competition in most of the organizations, whether this would be bad for him or not, who knows, but it's sure as hell a lot riskier than just signing that contract with Vancouver and be the number 1 guy that he's expected to be.

If he struggles to adjust to the pro game in the AHL, the Canucks WILL give him the time it takes to make that step, because that's exactly what they've done in the past. If he plays good down there, he'll eventually be up with the big club. This is something few organizations can actually offer, because again, most teams have at least one good goalie prospect, and if not that, a good/great goaltender in the NHL signed to a big long-term contract.

If he would be open to signing with a different team, then every single GM in league would be interested in him obviously, because it's a top goalie prospect, and more importantly a FREE top prospect. The Canucks used a high 2nd round pick on him, so they OBVIOUSLY believe in him and believe he has a future with them. And looking at the team right now and their goalie depth, there's no reason to think anything else. How many other GMs can he actually BELIEVE when they tell him they've big plans for him? How many of those GMs would just be interested in acquiring a top goalie prospect, saying the things it takes to get him? Canucks is the safest, and probably the best choice for him, and again, would love to hear you mention the teams where he would be a better fit, or even as good of a fit as he is with Vancouver. You said there would be 25 teams out there where he would be a great fit.

You should probably re-read my post
 
In all fairness, what incentive does Demko have to sign a contract when he can just finish his degree and go sign wherever he wants?
 
In all fairness, what incentive does Demko have to sign a contract when he can just finish his degree and go sign wherever he wants?

In a recent video he was asked which player he was most looking forward to playing against in the NHL and he said McCann. This just might be his plan all along:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
 
In all fairness, what incentive does Demko have to sign a contract when he can just finish his degree and go sign wherever he wants?

The fact that he has a higher chance playing 30ish games in 2 years in Vancouver then almost anywhere else. Lots of other teams have road blocks that would prevent him from seeing that kind of NHL action before 3 year.
 
In a recent video he was asked which player he was most looking forward to playing against in the NHL and he said McCann. This just might be his plan all along:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

Lol.
The fact that he has a higher chance playing 30ish games in 2 years in Vancouver then almost anywhere else. Lots of other teams have road blocks that would prevent him from seeing that kind of NHL action before 3 year.

You consider your 'prediction' to be a 'fact'? He has to play another year in college. Then he will play 2 years in the AHL to get used to the pro game. Thats the usual route. Even Schneider paid 2 years dues in the AHL.

Wouldnt a team like Edmonton and Buffalo seem like a better choice than a team like the Canucks who are still choke full of aging veterans and wont be rebuilt for years yet?

Why would he choose to come play for a team that hasnt even stripped down yet ?
 
Lol.


You consider your 'prediction' to be a 'fact'? He has to play another year in college. Then he will play 2 years in the AHL to get used to the pro game. Thats the usual route. Even Schneider paid 2 years dues in the AHL.

Wouldnt a team like Edmonton and Buffalo seem like a better choice than a team like the Canucks who are still choke full of aging veterans and wont be rebuilt for years yet?

Why would he choose to come play for a team that hasnt even stripped down yet ?

No he doesn't have to play another year in college.

Here's Buffalo's G depth chart:
Robin Lehner
Chad Johnson
Linus Ullmark (M)
Nathan Lieuwen (M)
Andrey Makarov (M)
Calvin Petersen (C)
Jonas Johansson (E)
Jason Kasdorf (

Here's Vancouver's:
Ryan Miller
Jacob Markstrom
Joe Cannata (M)
Richard Bachman (M)
Thatcher Demko (C)

lol.
 
In all fairness, what incentive does Demko have to sign a contract when he can just finish his degree and go sign wherever he wants?

What incentive does any NCAA player have to sign with the team that drafted them instead of signing where they'd please? Yet like 95% of players who are worthy of an NHL contract do in fact sign with their drafted team. So either you are speculating (which is pointless) or you in fact have insider info. care to share something???
 
What incentive does any NCAA player have to sign with the team that drafted them instead of signing where they'd please? Yet like 95% of players who are worthy of an NHL contract do in fact sign with their drafted team. So either you are speculating (which is pointless) or you in fact have insider info. care to share something???

I think most prospects sign if they see a chance to get into the NHL early on regardless of team.

If they think they may not get the chance to break into a deep roster I could see that as the primary reason for not signing.

I can't imagine Demko is too worried about the current goalie depth of the Nucks honestly, to me that'd be the best opportunity for him to break into the NHL.
 
In all fairness, what incentive does Demko have to sign a contract when he can just finish his degree and go sign wherever he wants?

How about its meaningless for him to play another year of college.

1. It won't help his development over playing PRO

2. He turns pro and signs his ELC 1 year sooner which means he get to his UFA contract sooner.

3. If blows his knee or hips next year then he is done with no suitors, and no contracts and no financial stability.

Why risk it ?

Jonathan Drouin is not playing in the AHL for this very reason. It's why most college athletes sign a pro contract immediately.

Demko signs this summer and will be a top 5 goalie by 2021
 
Lol.


You consider your 'prediction' to be a 'fact'? He has to play another year in college. Then he will play 2 years in the AHL to get used to the pro game. Thats the usual route. Even Schneider paid 2 years dues in the AHL.

Wouldnt a team like Edmonton and Buffalo seem like a better choice than a team like the Canucks who are still choke full of aging veterans and wont be rebuilt for years yet?

Why would he choose to come play for a team that hasnt even stripped down yet ?

Well, why would he sign in Edmonton of all places? We're full of choke and aging veterans, Edmonton's full of congenital suck all over the board. The Oilers organization would need a telescope to even see the point they'd need to be at to be considered chokers because someone somewhere would have to expect them to be capable of winning anything but draft lotteries first. Four 1st overall picks in the last six years and they're still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

So why would Demko and think that's a better place to play? Did his mother drop him on his head when he was a baby?
 
Well, why would he sign in Edmonton of all places? We're full of choke and aging veterans, Edmonton's full of congenital suck all over the board. The Oilers organization would need a telescope to even see the point they'd need to be at to be considered chokers because someone somewhere would have to expect them to be capable of winning anything but draft lotteries first. Four 1st overall picks in the last six years and they're still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

So why would Demko and think that's a better place to play? Did his mother drop him on his head when he was a baby?

I agree w this. His GAA would be crazy high plays g behind that defence and thst will effect his $$$ contract wise.
 
You've played out this baseless college UFA loophole angle enough already, so circle back to player discussion now or I'll remove you.
 
Benning hints that Demko is signing as soon as season is finished and that Boeser will stay another year in North Dakota.

Demkos trajectory is currently higher than Cory Schneiders who took the same route w. The Canucks.
 
Demkos trajectory is currently higher than Cory Schneiders who took the same route w. The Canucks.

Can you elaborate on your opinion here? Are you claiming that Demko currently projects to be better than one of the best NHL goaltenders?
 
Can you elaborate on your opinion here? Are you claiming that Demko currently projects to be better than one of the best NHL goaltenders?

At this point of both their development Thatcher is trendingg higher. Of course lots can happen once Thatcher turns pro. But both spent 3 yrs at B.C.

Best year.

Schneider 2.03 GAA. . 930 Sv % ...8 Shutouts.
Demko 1.71 GAA. .940 Sv % ..10 shutouts and counting
 
At this point of both their development Thatcher is trendingg higher. Of course lots can happen once Thatcher turns pro. But both spent 3 yrs at B.C.

Best year.

Schneider 2.03 GAA. . 930 Sv % ...8 Shutouts.
Demko 1.71 GAA. .940 Sv % ..10 shutouts and counting

yep, and this is demkos first year pain free from his hips. He lost a lot of development and workout time with that injury so i would say he has more to room athletically to improve as well.

As long as he can adapt his game to the more structured pro game he will be a beast. A lot of goalies struggle with that especially early in their pro careers just look at schneids ahl numbers his first year until december.

http://theahl.com/stats/gamebygame.php?seasonId=12&id=2074
 
Can you elaborate on your opinion here? Are you claiming that Demko currently projects to be better than one of the best NHL goaltenders?

Is there something wrong with that opinion? Is it impossible that future players can trend better than current NHLers? Is the bar set at Corey Schneider and none shall ever break it?

Poster was very careful to refer to the progression of both players through the same period of their college career and said nothing about the development that CS made at the AHL and then NHL level.

Hence your "incredulity" is quite ... odd.
 
Benning said he'll talk to Demko after his season and will get him signed in the summer. Also noted his best friend is McCann.
 
Is there something wrong with that opinion? Is it impossible that future players can trend better than current NHLers? Is the bar set at Corey Schneider and none shall ever break it?

Poster was very careful to refer to the progression of both players through the same period of their college career and said nothing about the development that CS made at the AHL and then NHL level.

Hence your "incredulity" is quite ... odd.

You overreacted. Read the post again as though the person that wrote it isn't being inflammatory but is genuinely intrigued by what the other poster is saying.
 
Is there something wrong with that opinion? Is it impossible that future players can trend better than current NHLers? Is the bar set at Corey Schneider and none shall ever break it?

Poster was very careful to refer to the progression of both players through the same period of their college career and said nothing about the development that CS made at the AHL and then NHL level.

Hence your "incredulity" is quite ... odd.

Easy, tiger. It's a discussion board, and people ask questions. :scared:

I spend a significant portion of my free time researching goaltenders, and I'm interested in them. I ask questions about them.

I'm sorry that you find me odd.
 

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