G Jesper Wallstedt (2021, 20th, MIN)

[villacco]

My bad. Beyond stupid

 

[57special]

EDM could have Zegras/Boldy and Wallstedt rather than Bouchard and Bourgault right now. Mind you, they would've screwed up Wallstedt by sticking him in the NHL prematurely, so maybe it doesn't matter.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

EDM could have Zegras/Boldy and Wallstedt rather than Bouchard and Bourgault right now.

You can do this for just about every team and every pick in the history of the draft.

 

[57special]

You can do this for just about every team and every pick in the history of the draft.

Even at the time of the picks, I was left scratching my head at the EDM choices. I get a guy like Holloway not working out (yet)...perfectly understandable. Boldy, Zegras? They were slam dunks. Same with Wallstedt. Most were stunned that Cossa was picked first.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

EDM could have Zegras/Boldy and Wallstedt rather than Bouchard and Bourgault right now. Mind you, they would've screwed up Wallstedt by sticking him in the NHL prematurely, so maybe it doesn't matter.

Broberg* not Bouchard and they picked Bourgault at #22 after Wallstedt went at #20 in 2021.

I think they were just caught up in trying to find a good D at the time in 2019. Turns out Broberg has needed much more time even 4 years later and isn't an NHL regular. They kept trying to find the "special forward" prospect even after McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, and Hall were all with the franchise (Hall was gone shortly after of course). They banked so hard on Nurse becoming a top guy when they had ample opportunity to swing on adding D in 2016 & 2017. When they missed that chance, in 2018 they took the flashy offense in Bouchard and left current all-around stud Dobson on the board.

They're still looking for that bonafide 25 minute #1D though which I think will continue to burden them. Unless Bouchard becomes more of a John Carlson ala 2018 Capitals under the right coaching.

Edit: not to derail the thread before - I'm a Wings fan that supports Cossa but definitely think Kris Draper got in there and took Wallstedt away from Hakan Andersson's grasp (already went Sweden 9 picks earlier). The Wild stole Jesper and have sneakily added some nice players over the past half-decade. I think Wallstedt will be the best of them and I say that also as a big believer in Boldy.

 

[Jumptheshark]

You can do this for just about every team and every pick in the history of the draft.

In this case here. This is what the oiler fans wanted on draft day, IN the case of the Wall when they traded down his pick--I tossed my toys out of my pram. With the Broberg pick we all wanted a forward--I love my swedes but broberg was no way the best player available at that pick--I believe I wanted eithr Boldy or Zegres--not Broberg. The Broberg pick was bad from the word go

 

[Czechboy]

My bad. Beyond stupid

I think we got a decent Dman from Germany with the other pic. So 'maybe' both the D and Xavier become regulars and then it's a little easier to stomach. I can't see it happening though.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

He will be going on the Sweden trip, based on recent goalie play, there's a reasonable chance they actually give him a look.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Broberg* not Bouchard and they picked Bourgault at #22 after Wallstedt went at #20 in 2021.

I think they were just caught up in trying to find a good D at the time in 2019. Turns out Broberg has needed much more time even 4 years later and isn't an NHL regular. They kept trying to find the "special forward" prospect even after McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, and Hall were all with the franchise (Hall was gone shortly after of course). They banked so hard on Nurse becoming a top guy when they had ample opportunity to swing on adding D in 2016 & 2017. When they missed that chance, in 2018 they took the flashy offense in Bouchard and left current all-around stud Dobson on the board.

They're still looking for that bonafide 25 minute #1D though which I think will continue to burden them. Unless Bouchard becomes more of a John Carlson ala 2018 Capitals under the right coaching.

Edit: not to derail the thread before - I'm a Wings fan that supports Cossa but definitely think Kris Draper got in there and took Wallstedt away from Hakan Andersson's grasp (already went Sweden 9 picks earlier). The Wild stole Jesper and have sneakily added some nice players over the past half-decade. I think Wallstedt will be the best of them and I say that also as a big believer in Boldy.

Yeah, but they traded back from #20.

 

[Fraser28]

I wonder what the Oilers would trade for him.

 

[57special]

Broberg* not Bouchard and they picked Bourgault at #22 after Wallstedt went at #20 in 2021.

I think they were just caught up in trying to find a good D at the time in 2019. Turns out Broberg has needed much more time even 4 years later and isn't an NHL regular. They kept trying to find the "special forward" prospect even after McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, and Hall were all with the franchise (Hall was gone shortly after of course). They banked so hard on Nurse becoming a top guy when they had ample opportunity to swing on adding D in 2016 & 2017. When they missed that chance, in 2018 they took the flashy offense in Bouchard and left current all-around stud Dobson on the board.

They're still looking for that bonafide 25 minute #1D though which I think will continue to burden them. Unless Bouchard becomes more of a John Carlson ala 2018 Capitals under the right coaching.

Edit: not to derail the thread before - I'm a Wings fan that supports Cossa but definitely think Kris Draper got in there and took Wallstedt away from Hakan Andersson's grasp (already went Sweden 9 picks earlier). The Wild stole Jesper and have sneakily added some nice players over the past half-decade. I think Wallstedt will be the best of them and I say that also as a big believer in Boldy.

I got my dmen mixed up, but the point still stands. As to Wallstedt, you do understand that EDM traded out of the 20th spot down to 22nd with MN, right? They absolutely could've taken Wallstedt.

 

[57special]

In this case here. This is what the oiler fans wanted on draft day, IN the case of the Wall when they traded down his pick--I tossed my toys out of my pram. With the Broberg pick we all wanted a forward--I love my swedes but broberg was no way the best player available at that pick--I believe I wanted eithr Boldy or Zegres--not Broberg. The Broberg pick was bad from the word go

As a Wild fan, i wasn't heavily invested in who EDM picked, but I thought it was weird as hell that they didn't pick Boldy/Zegras. They were one of the few teams who could've gone Boldy as they didn't need a C with RNH, Drai, and McDavid in house... all they needed was more top 6 depth. The Wallstedt thing was just as puzzling. He was a pretty clear cut Best goalie available, or at least tied for it, a first round talent, and EDM had a need for a future #1G. It seemed like a no brainer.

This isn't a mock EDM post. All teams have puzzling picks like OTT with Boucher, and my team, MN, with Filip Johansson, though in retrospect there wasn't a hell of a lot around him.

I don't blame EDM for taking Pulju...he was a consensus pick at the time. Just didn't work out.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

I got my dmen mixed up, but the point still stands. As to Wallstedt, you do understand that EDM traded out of the 20th spot down to 22nd with MN, right? They absolutely could've taken Wallstedt.

Yes that part slipped my mind and it was pointed out above, thanks

 

[Raistlin]

everyone that follows the draft thought Wallstedt to EDM was a given the moment DET picked Cossa instead of Wallstedt at 15. It was a perfect fit. That Galaxybrain move to trade down was unfathomable to me.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

He’s been called up to travel with the team to Sweden as their emergency goalie. They also put Freddy Gaudreau on retroactive LTIR to create space in case he needs to play. I’m not sure if the plan is for him to make his debut or not.

 

[StreetHawk]

everyone that follows the draft thought Wallstedt to EDM was a given the moment DET picked Cossa instead of Wallstedt at 15. It was a perfect fit. That Galaxybrain move to trade down was unfathomable to me.

Unless McDrai are signing extensions, Wallstedt would arrive too late (for the #1 job) to help the Oilers do anything with them on the roster. EDM also passed on Hart and Oettinger in 2016/2017 to draft Tyler Benson and Kailer Yamamoto. These 2 both turn 25 in 2023, so more helpful to the Oilers now, but they for whatever opted to pass on the top rated goalie for those drafts in favor of forwards, not even Dmen.
Edm has for the McDavid era, just been hoping that drafting goalies from rounds 3 onwards would uncover a gem. That has not happened. So, they had to go and pay Campbell.

 

[Czechboy]

Unless McDrai are signing extensions, Wallstedt would arrive too late (for the #1 job) to help the Oilers do anything with them on the roster. EDM also passed on Hart and Oettinger in 2016/2017 to draft Tyler Benson and Kailer Yamamoto. These 2 both turn 25 in 2023, so more helpful to the Oilers now, but they for whatever opted to pass on the top rated goalie for those drafts in favor of forwards, not even Dmen.
Edm has for the McDavid era, just been hoping that drafting goalies from rounds 3 onwards would uncover a gem. That has not happened. So, they had to go and pay Campbell.

I've heard this argument so many times now.. he won't be in the NHL for at least 7 years.

I still maintain he gets his first game before Xavier B.

Curious to see who is more impactful first but if the argument is that Xavier would help us out earlier... Well, they are both in the AHL not helping the club today.

Curious how it plays out.

 

[StreetHawk]

I've heard this argument so many times now.. he won't be in the NHL for at least 7 years.

I still maintain he gets his first game before Xavier B.

Curious to see who is more impactful first but if the argument is that Xavier would help us out earlier... Well, they are both in the AHL not helping the club today.

Curious how it plays out.

Kind of late to be banking on 2021 drafted goalies in 2023, when McDrai's contracts expire in 2025 and 2026. Wallstedt, at best should be a backup in 24/25 season. Not the designated starter.
That's where bypassing Hart/Oettinger hurt the Oilers. Goalies need around 4 years to make the NHL. It's a very mentally challenging position. Have to go through some highs and lows.

Edm should have taken Wallstedt for their future, given that they had not developed a goalie at the time. But, I wouldn't have bet on him being ready and able to help before Drai's contract expires as the #1 goalie. That would have been asking and expecting way too much of him. Let the guy backup first before annointing him as the starter.

 

[Raistlin]

Kind of late to be banking on 2021 drafted goalies in 2023, when McDrai's contracts expire in 2025 and 2026. Wallstedt, at best should be a backup in 24/25 season. Not the designated starter.
That's where bypassing Hart/Oettinger hurt the Oilers. Goalies need around 4 years to make the NHL. It's a very mentally challenging position. Have to go through some highs and lows.

Edm should have taken Wallstedt for their future, given that they had not developed a goalie at the time. But, I wouldn't have bet on him being ready and able to help before Drai's contract expires as the #1 goalie. That would have been asking and expecting way too much of him. Let the guy backup first before annointing him as the starter.

was it the plan to just keep mcDrai for another 2 years all along? I thought they want to have both for their respective careers? is 24/25 as long as Holland has plans for?

Their franchise player is only 26, and Wallstedt was one of the best prospects in his position in a long time. Its ridiculous that because it takes 4 years to develop a goalie so they will never draft one and have in the system. I mean how long has goaltending been a problem for them?

 

[nergish]

was it the plan to just keep mcDrai for another 2 years all along? I thought they want to have both for their respective careers? is 24/25 as long as Holland has plans for?

Their franchise player is only 26, and Wallstedt was one of the best prospects in his position in a long time. Its ridiculous that because it takes 4 years to develop a goalie so they will never draft one and have in the system. I mean how long has goaltending been a problem for them?

EDM was never going to draft a goalie in the first round, they probably didn’t even scout Wallstedt…

To their detriment, of course. Jesper is the goalie prospect of all goalie prospects.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

He’s been called up to travel with the team to Sweden as their emergency goalie. They also put Freddy Gaudreau on retroactive LTIR to create space in case he needs to play. I’m not sure if the plan is for him to make his debut or not.

Just my personal thoughts, I have suspicions he gets the start on Saturday. There are a lot of minor things that have occurred with this team that lead me to believe that.

It would just be the one game, but I believe this has been partially planned for a while. The Wild were always intending on getting him a few looks this season as they have a goalie decision next off season.

 

[StreetHawk]

was it the plan to just keep mcDrai for another 2 years all along? I thought they want to have both for their respective careers? is 24/25 as long as Holland has plans for?

Their franchise player is only 26, and Wallstedt was one of the best prospects in his position in a long time. It’s ridiculous that because it takes 4 years to develop a goalie so they will never draft one and have in the system. I mean how long has goaltending been a problem for them?

That’s up to the 2 of them more so than what Edm wants. Do those 2 want to stay if this season goes the way it’s been going or they don’t end up having a a PO to the WCF? Seems like Holland is out at the end of the season. With how the HC change decision was made.

If they bypassed hart and Oettinger they should have taken Wallstedt.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Oh and also, Happy birthday Jesper, turned 21 today while on a plane to his home country. I bet they are going to have a fun night.

 

[Czechboy]

Kind of late to be banking on 2021 drafted goalies in 2023, when McDrai's contracts expire in 2025 and 2026. Wallstedt, at best should be a backup in 24/25 season. Not the designated starter.
That's where bypassing Hart/Oettinger hurt the Oilers. Goalies need around 4 years to make the NHL. It's a very mentally challenging position. Have to go through some highs and lows.

Edm should have taken Wallstedt for their future, given that they had not developed a goalie at the time. But, I wouldn't have bet on him being ready and able to help before Drai's contract expires as the #1 goalie. That would have been asking and expecting way too much of him. Let the guy backup first before annointing him as the starter.

Agree... no one is saying he'd be the starter this year.

But he has a lot more value than Xavier B today
If Xavier B was in Top 6 getting 50 points then people like me shut up fast.lol

Coincidentally, if the Wild wanted to trade Walstedt and the Oil wanted to trade Xavier B.. whos' getting the better return today? It's all about asset management and drafting a smallish winger over a potential elite G is a bit crazy to me. Especially when he was gifted to us.

Of course, the Dman taken 90th might be impactful too! Time will tell. I got my money on Jesper today. And last year, and draft day. Have seen nothing to change my mind.

 

[Czechboy]

Meanwhile:



Really happy for Jesper and the Wild. Really sad for the Oil and me.lol