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G Dustin Wolf (2019, 214th, CGY)

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abo9 said:
I checked parts of the 2nd and 3rd yesterday. Not a dangerous game by any mean, but a tricky one since Calgary couldn't find a way to score until late. Giving up a second goal when shots are like 45 - 25 would have been pretty deflating

But, Wolf did a really good job, he looked confident in the crease, swallowed pucks, everything looked super easy - which actually might also be indicative of his skills (less rebound = less shots, making things look easy = boosting team's confidence).

I wonder what happens with Wolf going forward. They obviously tried him now because they were eliminated, but Markstrom is signed for a few more years - perhaps they go 1A/1B like Florida is doing with Bob and Knight?
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My guess would be Markstrom goes in as the starter next year with Wolf as the backup. But I could see a 1a/1b situation emerging as the season goes on.

Markstrom should be better next year than he was this season. He can’t really be worse. And while Wolf looks like the real deal, he’ll still be a rookie.

I don’t think there’s any way the Flames can have Wolf in the AHL though after the two seasons he’s had there. He’s been absolutely dominant and has proved he deserves his NHL shot now.
 
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madmike77 said:
My guess would be Markstrom goes in as the starter next year with Wolf as the backup. But I could see a 1a/1b situation emerging as the season goes on.

Markstrom should be better next year than he was this season. He can’t really be worse. And while Wolf looks like the real deal, he’ll still be a rookie.

I don’t think there’s any way the Flames can have Wolf in the AHL though after the two seasons he’s had there. He’s been absolutely dominant and has proved he deserves his NHL shot now.
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Yeah I wrote that thinking it's a shame it's not an Oettinger situation where the net was wide open. But midway through realized that the Flames are in a great situation to slowly bring Wolf in rather than use the "sink or swim" method.

He destroys the AHL - great he can take the next step now. Next year start as backup, then gradually increase to a starter load during Markstrom's last 3 contract years.

And they can probably bridge or sign him for not that huge of an AAV while Markstrom's contract ends, then seamlessly transition to Wolf if he's as good as his track record suggests. If he's not, then 2-3 years is a decent to find a new goalie.
 
Really bummed I missed the debut :(

Glad he showed well! Was never any doubt and of course it was just one game but glad to see the confidence carries over on top of the skill.

Guys like him and Saros can't afford to get down on themselves, holes would appear everywhere.
 
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Son of Petter said:
He looked good tonight, steady and solid but man is he small. It looked like a child or ebug in net for the flames. Went he went butterfly there was so much room above him in net. Kid’s young and I think he can do it but it’ll be an uphill battle given his size.
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The thing is, Wolf will only go to the butterfly if he has decided that is the best move for the situation. His instincts and reading of the game tell him when he has to be on his feet, well outside the paint, a little deeper etc.. I love watching these guys work.
 
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Son of Petter said:
He looked good tonight, steady and solid but man is he small. It looked like a child or ebug in net for the flames. Went he went butterfly there was so much room above him in net. Kid’s young and I think he can do it but it’ll be an uphill battle given his size.
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Another hater to quote in a couple of years.
 
Someone asked if there are any comparables to his age/numbers in the AHL in recent memory and I admit I struggled to think of any off hand. Anyone remember any?
 
As a fellow undersized goalie, I always root for the shorter goalies. Saros is my favorite player in the league and I was rooting hard for Wolf despite the fact I despise the Flames. Always happy to see guys proving you don't need to be 6'4 to be successful in the position. In the case of Saros at least, I think his size has made him better a better goalie, as it forced him to develop his game without shortcuts. His athleticism, edge-work and positioning are in a class of their own, which allow him to quickly re-position himself for perfect angle coverage on every single shot, and in my opinion is the result of him never being able to count on his size to cover shots.

As for Wolf's debut, it was statistically great and he looked confident, but he also didn't face much of a challenge so one can't really conclude much from it. But he did what he had to do and will get a chance to unseat Markstrom next season.
 
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Flames Fanatic said:
Someone asked if there are any comparables to his age/numbers in the AHL in recent memory and I admit I struggled to think of any off hand. Anyone remember any?
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It has been a fairly unprecedented season for him. Hard to think of anyone that dominant this young as a goalie in the AHL. Even current goalies who broke into the NHL younger didn't dominate the AHL like his past season.
 
Hinterland said:
I was about to warn you that you should delete this post if you don't wanna get buried with numbers by hfboards resident Flames homer but I was too late. Sorry.
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Me being a homer: posts his stats, brings up that he going to win his 4th consecutive goalie of the year award, has a chance for AHL MVP, and that he’s chasing the single season win record in the AHL.

You being a homer:
Hinterland said:
Wolf is just about to finish his 2nd pro season so we're talking about a very small sample size.

So while it's entirely possible you're right about Wolf for me and for now, Wallstedt is clearly ahead of the rest. He's also far more experienced and proven than for example Wolf who mostly played against kids.
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Hinterland said:
While I can't say anything bad about Wolf I also have to tell you that he does nothing better than Wallstedt except being a more active, better puck mover. Wallstedt has at least (in my view better) technique and mobility. Unlike with Askarov there are no red flags, no flaws in his game.
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My personal favorite that I forgot to quote, on the topic Levi, Askarov, Wallstedt and Wolf.

“This isn't the greatest selection of goalie prospects we ever saw. Of the group, Wallstedt is the only one I like.”

We are not the same.
 
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Dustin Wolf: 103 games in the AHL
Jesper Wallstedt: 37 games in the AHL, 45 games in the SHL

Yes, it is Wolf who has mostly played against kids.
 
Is he available for trade? Sharks are looking for a goalie. What would be the price in terms of picks?

Markstrom still has three years left on his contract for you guys.
 
Flames Fanatic said:
Someone asked if there are any comparables to his age/numbers in the AHL in recent memory and I admit I struggled to think of any off hand. Anyone remember any?
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Matt Murray, I'm simply going off of the below, so maybe there is someone young that was really good too. But Murray is the only other guy that young to win AHL goalie of the year in their first pro year. I also quit looking at the 12-13 season.

Aldege "Baz" Bastien Memorial Award - Wikipedia

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Raccoon Jesus said:
Really bummed I missed the debut :(

Glad he showed well! Was never any doubt and of course it was just one game but glad to see the confidence carries over on top of the skill.

Guys like him and Saros can't afford to get down on themselves, holes would appear everywhere.
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You might wanna edit that sentence or brace for impact
Yepthatsme said:
Me being a homer: posts his stats, brings up that he going to win his 4th consecutive goalie of the year award, has a chance for AHL MVP, and that he’s chasing the single season win record in the AHL.

You being a homer:



My personal favorite that I forgot to quote, on the topic Levi, Askarov, Wallstedt and Wolf.

“This isn't the greatest selection of goalie prospects we ever saw. Of the group, Wallstedt is the only one I like.”

We are not the same.
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I'm not gonna engage in your bullshit discussion....did it for too long.

Having said that, I'm really interested to find out how you came up with the conclusion that I must be a homer.
I mean reading through your posts it's clear as day you're hfboards resident Flames fanboy. You like all Flames and everything Flames and everybody being even just skeptical about anything Flames better brace for impact. I don't think we need to talk about this but of course feel free to tell me if I'm wrong.

Now, what about me though? Who do I support in a way that would make me a fanboy? Especially related to Wolf that doesn't seem to make sense for me. I'd really like to know though because I don't know myself. Thank you.
 
hotcabbagesoup said:
Is he available for trade? Sharks are looking for a goalie. What would be the price in terms of picks?

Markstrom still has three years left on his contract for you guys.
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Barring him getting stuck in the AHL behind Vladar and demanding a trade I don't think he's being dealt anytime soon.

Even if Wolf is good enough to take on a full time role as early as next season, it's not like the cap space being spent on goalies is ridiculously bad at less than 7mil the next two seasons.

It sure as hell isn't ideal to be paying a backup 6mil, but it's sure as hell not smart to trade Wolf because there is a guy making 6mil on the team.
 
joestevens29 said:
Barring him getting stuck in the AHL behind Vladar and demanding a trade I don't think he's being dealt anytime soon.

Even if Wolf is good enough to take on a full time role as early as next season, it's not like the cap space being spent on goalies is ridiculously bad at less than 7mil the next two seasons.

It sure as hell isn't ideal to be paying a backup 6mil, but it's sure as hell not smart to trade Wolf because there is a guy making 6mil on the team.
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He's waiver exempt until 2026 so I don't think he's gonna go anywhere anytime soon pretty much no matter what happens in Calgary.
 
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Flames Fanatic said:
Someone asked if there are any comparables to his age/numbers in the AHL in recent memory and I admit I struggled to think of any off hand. Anyone remember any?
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Recently the closest example would be Logan Thompson probably and that’s stretching it. Thompson was 2 years older and played 23 games compared to Wolf’s 53, but also had freakishly good stats and AHL MVP. After that you have to go back almost 10 seasons to Matt Murray, and his story almost played exactly like Wolf’s except he got called up in his second AHL season and went on to win the cup. It’s a shame he flamed out so quick, his start to his NHL career was phenomenal.
Hinterland said:
You might wanna edit that sentence or brace for impact

I'm not gonna engage in your bullshit discussion....did it for too long.

Having said that, I'm really interested to find out how you came up with the conclusion that I must be a homer.
I mean reading through your posts it's clear as day you're hfboards resident Flames fanboy. You like all Flames and everything Flames and everybody being even just skeptical about anything Flames better brace for impact. I don't think we need to talk about this but of course feel free to tell me if I'm wrong.

Now, what about me though? Who do I support in a way that would make me a fanboy? Especially related to Wolf that doesn't seem to make sense for me. I'd really like to know though because I don't know myself. Thank you.
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I mean fan boy would’ve been a better descriptor than homer so I apologize if that threw you for a loop. But you’re pretty guilty of finding a favorite player, deciding he’s the best, then going out of your way to discredit any other player he gets compared against.

You stated Wolf doesn’t do a single thing better than Wallstedt other than play the puck currently which was pretty funny, and that Wallstedt has no flaws. Then you hand waved away Wolf’s utter dominance in comparison to Wallstedt saying every team he’s been on must be better. Then you were dismissive about his team not actually being better when Wolf doesn’t play, because his backups must just be horrid. Then you tried stating that two seasons in the AHL is too small of a sample size anyways, we don’t know how he actually fairs in pro leagues and that the SHL is harder anyways. Then you tied it all up with being 6’0 just generally means he’s probably going to randomly collapse at some point in his career, so Wallstedt being 6’5 means he’s inherently better.

You’ve done the same thing to Askarov and Levi as well. You’ve mentally decided Wallstedt has no flaws (your words, not mine) and is the best by far, so now you have to do the mental gymnastics why other goalies who are doing better aren’t actually doing better. For instance I’m starting to realize I was very wrong about Askarov, his play in the last half of his season has been incredible and his potential is vastly higher than I thought. Are you capable of saying you were wrong about Askarov too, and more importantly acknowledging that as of right now Askarov looks to currently be a better goalie than Wallstedt?
 
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I think he could be that what Kari Lehtonen would have been without injuries.
- "Kärppä" Lehtonen had the potential to be the best goalie ever, in the NHL and i don't think i even exaggerate that much


Similarities are there (minus the height and draft position) :
crazy good junior career & pro career prior to NHL, wins his NHL debut...
sounds very familiar doesn't it
 
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