Full clip of McDavid's expletive-filled rant at Oilers teammates drops

[MartyOwns]

The ones poking fun at McDavid for not being the best speaker and getting upset are the same who arent man or woman enough to do it in the first place

Sorry not every sports leader sounds like theyre in a movie and perfects public speaking


Spoken like someone who wont ever be in that situation, or any of significance for that matter

Whats wrong, never loved or been good enough at something to be upset? Youre a perfect example for my above post

you got me there, it’s looking less and less likely i’ll ever captain the oilers. what a dumb post lmao

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

you got me there, it’s looking less and less likely i’ll ever captain the oilers. what a dumb post lmao

Its easy to talk from a position of a fan versus actually being there

 

[TooManyHumans]

Only current NHL captains should be allowed to comment on this.

 

[BTP]

That’s an amazing video. It’s good to see this emotion as a fan. Exactly what I’d want to see

 

[Dust]

I thought it was great and it clearly worked as they rallied back in the series. I knew there would be a group on here complaining about it (and it's the usual suspects responding in this thread trying to make it into a big deal).

Whole series was enjoyable though, I thought the least personable one of the guys they followed was Quinn.

 

[Devilsfan2326]

I have wondered off and on if McD is 'The Voice' in the locker room or the polar opposite. He has elite skillsets as a player and makes more than the rest of team which washes out with his skills. He puts up the points, he earns the contract moreso than anyone else out there with exceptions. But what is his attitude like amongst his players? Is the team -really- motivated by him? Are they envious of him? Do they view him as a whiner whose skillsets 'make it look easy' while the others struggle and are tired of being told and shown that they're not as good as him? A lot of factors affect a team's dynamics and McD might be his very own worst enemy. Is the team fed up with him?

If he's expecting people to show up by 'being more like him' and harping on it, I can see that burning out people and creating dissention against him.

I feel like he doesn't say much and when he does he's condescending and the team is like f-k him, we'll wait til he shows up first. And when he doesn't, they lose.

That could be it. The best player shouldn't always be the captain. It distracts from his headspace for the game. He can't really screech like this more than a few times or it'll get old. Just like any coach loses effectiveness over time, a captain could too, especially as a screecher. You don't want your star player to lose the room.

The only argument to push for the star to always be captain is that they're probably locked in there for several years. But why not commit to a regular player who's a really good listener type of guy who can read a room, for a year? Maybe two. It's not that bad. Coaches get rotated like that too. It might even improve their game. A star player can really only go down due to the added pressure to make speeches, on top of needing to score.

People already accept that really talented former players aren't always functional coaches. It's certainly possible talented players aren't always talented captains as well. You said this well in this case with the captain probably getting frustrated with his team's lack of skill. He's not able to relate enough to teach or to motivate in the same way Gretzky couldn't as a coach. This vast skill divide makes miscommunication more likely. I don't think it's easy for him to level with the guys who aren't naturals. Like you said, those guys probably won't be moved by an out of touch guy screeching at them no matter what he does on the ice.

There's been this weird competition for the youngest captain award for some time now, which really only goes to the young star player but not necessarily the young talented captain.

With all that said, I think the clip was actually intended for him to look bad. For some reason. I think this because they play a creepy sound tone, ever so slightly noticeable, in the background as he goes around ranting. Don't understand the motivation of adding a creepy sound tone rather than just showing the pure clip. The trainer knows this footage could be used against McDavid at the time of filming, and walks in front of the camera to shield him. The creepy sound tone they added in suggests this footage is being used to make him look worse than the clip already is on its own. Maybe someone in the media is upset about something?

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I see a leader here that wants to win and deserves to be paid. The guy will play until he can't anymore.

 

[BlueSeal]

I see a leader here that wants to win and deserves to be paid. The guy will play until he can't anymore.

Scoring goals and setting records makes him a great player, not necessarily a leader. It's the fine difference between being winning awards for great play and winning the Cup as part of a team.

Great leaders lead by both example and humility. I don't see the later with McDavid. Refusing to accept the Conn Smythe speaks volumes to this. Greatness on the ice is measured by numbers, but you are measured by how you handle loss and hardship because it's a daily part of all of our lives, some moreso than others. Those are the moments where you see the real person underneath the skills and namesake.

In the video, is McDavid really mad at everyone in the locker room? Nah. just himself. That moment we saw the great player realize that he needs these other people to fight alongside him. That moment could have been inspiring, he could have approached it as a moment to pull everyone together, remind them that all of us are important and that this was OUR moment and OUR time, to acknowledge that it was hard, that we wern't showing up like we all should be and we had to band together, go to war and fight. That moment alone could have won them the Cup.

But how does he respond? By yelling at everyone, who are as frustrated as him.

I don't see a leader.

 

[Devilsfan2326]

Scoring goals and setting records makes him a great player, not necessarily a leader. It's the fine difference between being winning awards for great play and winning the Cup as part of a team.

Great leaders lead by both example and humility. I don't see the later with McDavid. Refusing to accept the Conn Smythe speaks volumes to this. Greatness on the ice is measured by numbers, but you are measured by how you handle loss and hardship because it's a daily part of all of our lives, some moreso than others. Those are the moments where you see the real person underneath the skills and namesake.

In the video, is McDavid really mad at everyone in the locker room? Nah. just himself. That moment we saw the great player realize that he needs these other people to fight alongside him. That moment could have been inspiring, he could have approached it as a moment to pull everyone together, remind them that all of us are important and that this was OUR moment and OUR time, to acknowledge that it was hard, that we wern't showing up like we all should be and we had to band together, go to war and fight. That moment alone could have won them the Cup.

But how does he respond? By yelling at everyone, who are as frustrated as him.

I don't see a leader.

At the time I gave the benefit of the doubt that he wanted to be in the locker room to console his team. You know, be a stabilizing presence as captain. Was kind of a popular take. I don't know about that now. Maybe he still didn't want to be the only one with an award, because it would feel bad for the rest of his team with him sitting there with his trophy. But that's benefit of the doubt again.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I'm not a McDavid or Oilers fan but this seems very unfair and biased. McDavid played a huge part in the Oilers even making it to Game 7 (against a deeper, stronger, and more battle-tested team who lost their own game 7 the previous year). The Oilers as a club were spent by G7. You could tell about 15 minutes in that they used up every ounce of fight they had to extend the series and they had nothing else to give, McDavid included.

In no way, shape, or form did McDavid "not give it his all"... and his all-time elite playoff numbers make such a claim foolish. McDavid is a Grade A competitor. Watch his documentary. The kid was rehabbing his injuries beyond what the team requested just to get back quicker. When asked about it, he said something along the lines of, "They just gave me a lot of money and I do the team no good unless I play, so I need to get back." The dude is an elite competitor. I have no problem with his screaming and I'd want him on my team any day of the week.

None of the teams the Oilers played in the playoffs lost a game 7 the previous year. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

 

[soothsayer]

I think the one thing that series showed for sure is that Brady Tkatchuk has a legitimate learning disability.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842324106739392664

what kind of leader is scared of condiments

A wiener who never mustard up any offense in games 6 and 7 when it mattered.

 

[Bgav]

Canucks fan here. Watching both episodes I got nothing but respect for mcjesus.

 

[snag]

Scoring goals and setting records makes him a great player, not necessarily a leader. It's the fine difference between being winning awards for great play and winning the Cup as part of a team.

Great leaders lead by both example and humility. I don't see the later with McDavid. Refusing to accept the Conn Smythe speaks volumes to this. Greatness on the ice is measured by numbers, but you are measured by how you handle loss and hardship because it's a daily part of all of our lives, some moreso than others. Those are the moments where you see the real person underneath the skills and namesake.

In the video, is McDavid really mad at everyone in the locker room? Nah. just himself. That moment we saw the great player realize that he needs these other people to fight alongside him. That moment could have been inspiring, he could have approached it as a moment to pull everyone together, remind them that all of us are important and that this was OUR moment and OUR time, to acknowledge that it was hard, that we wern't showing up like we all should be and we had to band together, go to war and fight. That moment alone could have won them the Cup.

But how does he respond? By yelling at everyone, who are as frustrated as him.

I don't see a leader.

Of course you don't see a leader. Why would you? You think the guy should exercise "humility" by going to collect a meaningless in comparison trophy when his TEAM lost the ultimate goal? You think a leader ditches his team in their time of "grief" to go collect personal accolades?

You don't even know what a leader is.

 

[Andrei79]

This guy has only lived for hockey since he was two years old. Has been carrying the franchise and was going for a post-season points record. His team went 0-3 and people are calling it a tantrum ?

Any clue why someone in his position could be this emotional ? Some posters on this board are completely clueless.

Of course you don't see a leader. Why would you? You think the guy should exercise "humility" by going to collect a meaningless in comparison trophy when his TEAM lost the ultimate goal? You think a leader ditches his team in their team of "grief" to go collect personal accolades?

You don't even know what a leader is.

I don't know why you're responding to that post. It's complete and utter garbage.

 

[snag]

Passion? Crying and screaming and whining when the game is over isnt passion. Passion is like when JT miller hits and fights on the ice to backup what he says in the dressing room. I saw McDavid disappear in game 7 of the finals, not giving his all, not hitting and clawing his way to get a goal. All i saw was him crying at the end. If thats called passion then its pathetic.

Speaking of pathetic....they found Petey yet?

 

[BlueSeal]

Of course you don't see a leader. Why would you? You think the guy should exercise "humility" by going to collect a meaningless in comparison trophy when his TEAM lost the ultimate goal? You think a leader ditches his team in their team of "grief" to go collect personal accolades?

You don't even know what a leader is.

You stopped far too short in your response.

See, if I was the Captain of my team and I had earned the Conn Smythe, I would have gone, collected the Conn Smythe without acknolwledging anyone, taken it back to the locker room and destroyed it in front of my team. I want to win but more importantly I want my team to win, these guys in the room with me to win, the logo I got on the front of my sweater to win, I want buy-in, things like that is how you get it from others. It sends a message. If I'm McDavid and if everything I do is criticized whether its good, bad or parkay, I would start doing things like that. I wouldn't have to look for the missing pieces of our puzzle at that point, they would come looking for us.

I'm on a mission and everything I do is not as important as getting everyone on the same page and on that same boat. I would use the moment to build hunger into the team. Hell, it's Connor's team. I sure as hell wouldn't be in the locker room feeling sorry for myself, consoling others on the failed attempt at getting the Cup. That sends the wrong message.

They should be angry and determined to go back at it and win. That's what I want to see this year.

 

[AvroArrow]

Passion? Crying and screaming and whining when the game is over isnt passion. Passion is like when JT miller hits and fights on the ice to backup what he says in the dressing room. I saw McDavid disappear in game 7 of the finals, not giving his all, not hitting and clawing his way to get a goal. All i saw was him crying at the end. If thats called passion then its pathetic.

I dunno man, he seemed very passionate when he was dominating the Canucks and everyone else in the playoffs and literally broke a Gretzky record.

I saw him claw back into a series and compete at the highest level in game 7, this just post just reeks of desperation and envy. McDavid is the best player in the league by a mile, I genuinely hate the Oilers but even I can admit that. If Draisaitl wasn't so badly injured they probably win the cup.

But such a salty post lmao, citing JT Miller when McDavid destroyed Miller in the playoffs is certainly a choice.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842324106739392664

what kind of leader is scared of condiments

No need to employ a defensive specialist to shadow him. Just have whoever is on the ice against him chase him around with a ketchup packet to put him off his game.

 

[BlueMed]

Many people here who have no problem with how McDavid handled the situation may not have had a real leadership role before.

Leadership is about building people up and not instilling fear and breaking them down. Obviously his teammates knew it was the finals. Clearly, they were trying their best. Let's not operate under the pretense that they weren't giving it their all. That's poor leadership, and yelling like that comes across is immature and unhinged IMO.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Many people here who have no problem with how McDavid handled the situation may not have had a real leadership role before.

Leadership is about building people up and not instilling fear and breaking them down. Obviously his teammates knew it was the finals. Clearly, they were trying their best. Let's not operate under the pretense that they weren't giving it their all. That's poor leadership, and yelling like that comes across is immature and unhinged IMO.

Dynamics can be very specific. It’s maybe not ideal for introverts to be team captains. If the ideal captain is like the mayor of a city, then things might become awkward if you expect this from introverts.

This action on its own is very case specific. Don’t try to apply other situations to this. McDavid might know and feel others on the team are too dependent on he and Draisaitl. This outburst just might be an emotionally charged way of saying “don’t wait for me and Leon”. To his credit, he stepped up himself after this. It wasn’t a joke. So yeah, you can say it was good leadership in this specific way.

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[John Mandalorian]

Didn't see that one. Good or bad? Win or lose ?

Won. Obviously.

 

[McShogun99]

I think the one thing that series showed for sure is that Brady Tkatchuk has a legitimate learning disability.

It made me a fan of Brady. He just seems like a simple guy that likes having a good time. Matthew has always been a favorite of mine because he plays the bad guy role so good.

 

[yzerman]

Not everyone knows this but he had his telephone on speaker and was talking to the builder who was hired to construct his backyard.