[Friedman] Pittsburgh hires Kyle Dubas as President of Hockey Operations

[HansonBro]

My thread was first

Good job @MMC !

 

[Hunter368]

People had to know he wouldn't be unemployed long.........

 

[PensandCaps]

Pitsburgh, what is you doing baby? Dumb move.

Our stars step up in the playoffs. He built a pretty good team. Toronto failed him.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

This is awesome. Leaf on Leaf crime.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I was never a Dubas hater and still am not, but this just reaffirms how this is a business. Hope he does well for Pittsburgh but I did notice how he didn't express a single word of gratitude for the organization that gave him his first shot. That was a deliberate miss on his part.

As far as his performance being a GM, get ready to have a large influx of his SSM cohort start to creep in to your organization. No idea if they're good at what they do, but I can tell you that while being in charge his trades, drafting have been average at best. He was able to squeeze a lot of value out of veterans, but it was their desire to play in Toronto that was used as leverage for the team friendly deals, so can't say I give him tons of credit for that. Regardless, good move for his career and for his family.

He did post this tweet...

 

[Cor]

Do you move before you know where you're going to next? And he really wasn't fired - his contract ran out.

i mean these are all personal choices. But the context was that they would be moving away from Toronto because he no longer worked there.

 

[Donnie740]

Your argument goes both ways though.

Dubas inherited Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Rielly and Kadri and you're giving him credit for 'building' the team.

Why is it if a new GM inherits the same - now all the credit goes to Dubas? The Leafs entire core has basically been the same since before Dubas was GM.

Rielly, Matthews, Marner, Nylander were all part of the core before Dubas.

Dubas traded Kadri away for Kerfoot and paid Tavares 11M - that's as far as he went building the team.

That’s not going to sit well with the Dubas Fan Boi Club who continue to insist that spreadsheets are the “new” way to build a sports team.

Just look at the “dynasty” that Bill Beano built in Oakland using spreadsheets. About as “successful” as Dubas has been with Toronto.

This is a good lesson for you kids. Get yourself a pair of black framed glasses and hang around your local rinks with a clipboard using words like synergies and derivatives. You too can make 7M usd as an NHL executive.

Baffle them with bullshit.

By the time everyone realizes you’re an incompetent fraud, you’ll be a multimillionaire.

 

[A1LeafNation]

That’s not going to sit well with the Dubas Fan Boi Club who continue to insist that spreadsheets are the “new” way to build a sports team.

Just look at the “dynasty” that Bill Beano built in Oakland using spreadsheets. About as “successful” as Dubas has been with Toronto.

You know who did a mix of Billy Bean and Fundamental strategy, Theo Epstein for Boston, who was hired by Fenway Sports.

Kyle Dubas has been compared as the Theo Epstein of Hockey who employs both strategies too, also hired by Fenway Sports.

 

[centipede2233]

Nathan mackinnon : “I’ll be leaving money on the table in my next deal”
dubas “it’s either leaf’s or nowhere, you won’t see me pop up next week sone where else”
Taveras: “I want to win a cup with Long Island “ proceeds to sign in toronto

ive learned all people associated with the NHL are liera

 

[TheDoldrums]

Feel bad for Penguins fans that they've inherited this roving group of posters who are so invested in their belief that Dubas sucks that they'll be in every thread involving the team for years

 

[Mikeaveli]

Our stars step up in the playoffs. He built a pretty good team. Toronto failed him.

Toronto failed him like six times and he did nothing to change it

 

[Donnie740]

Don't the Leafs have 1 playoff round win in 19 seasons? Didn't that one win come with Dubas as the GM? So what is the excuse for the other 14 years where the Leafs couldn't win a round?

Dubas has won exactly ONE (1) more playoff series that luminaries such as Dave Nonis and Johnny Ferguson Jr.

That’s about the calibre of GM that Dubas is.

Lock up your former Soo Greyhounds. The Doobler is back in business.

Edmonton likely already called to offer Jumpin Jack Campbell for a 1st round pick.

Expect that trade announcement shortly.

 

[wonton15]

Any way you look at it - going from Hextall/Burke to Dubas is a win. Good for the Pens.

And anyone surprised that Dubas got a job and took the job shouldn't be. This was telegraphed lol

 

[RSPens]

Dubas has won exactly ONE (1) more playoff series that luminaries such as Dave Nonis and Johnny Ferguson Jr.

That’s about the calibre of GM that Dubas is.



Edmonton likely already called to offer Jumpin Jack Campbell for a 1st round pick.

Expect that trade announcement shortly.

And where is Dave Nonis today? So if Dave, who didn't win anything with Toronto can still manage to get a high level management job in the NHL, why can't Dubas?

Why does Dubas get all of your blame for the Leafs being inept, yet Shanny takes none of it? Or the fact that Mathews disappears in the playoffs? Why does Dubas take the blame for that?

Look I am not pretending that Dubas is the greatest hockey mind available. Yet you seem to really have a hate on for the guy.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Lock up your former Soo Greyhounds. The Doobler is back in business.

He's going to trade for Matt Murray again, isn't he?

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Feel bad for Penguins fans that they've inherited this roving group of posters who are so invested in their belief that Dubas sucks that they'll be in every thread involving the team for years

Don't forget the pretentious gasbags, lots of them roving around as well.

 

[Ogelthorpe]

Smart guy.

He took a team who lost in the first round 3 consecutive years before he was GM and traded 3 1st round picks only to lose in the first round 7 consecutive years. He then doubled down and traded another 2 1st round picks in his final year for a second round exit.

He's never proven any success at the NHL level - and now never has to because he's not the GM.

There's very few people who can obtain a high level position with zero results, Dubas seems to be one of them.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the problem is Toronto media/fans/expectations that wear on everyone from management down through the players? Very similar to the New York market in football/basketball/baseball? Phil Kessel seemed to do alright when he left. Maybe the Star players who don’t do well in the playoffs have more to do with those losses, than the GM? Maybe to pressure of playing hockey in Toronto is why?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

That’s not going to sit well with the Dubas Fan Boi Club who continue to insist that spreadsheets are the “new” way to build a sports team.

Just look at the “dynasty” that Bill Beano built in Oakland using spreadsheets. About as “successful” as Dubas has been with Toronto.



Baffle them with bullshit.

By the time everyone realizes you’re an incompetent fraud, you’ll be a multimillionaire.

Billie Bean doesn't have the money to complete against bigger budget clubs. Basically the opposite of Dubas' financial advantage in TO.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

He must be pissed at shanahan to do this today just before Toronto does their announcement

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Dubas claim to fame is he inherited a 105 pt team with a superstar core with over 28 million dollars of capspace that within 1 year was forced to sell off key supporting players because he himself spent himself into a cap crunch while only winning 1 playoff rd in the 5 years he was GM. It is rare a GM with such a dubious record gets a promotion after being not resigned or fired to President of a NHL hockey team, if we were to use the promotion as merit based. ut Dubas seems to be exempt from this. Never has a GM inherited such a favourable circumstance and achieved so little to be held to such high esteem in some quarters. Fenway group, interesting hire here. Must have been a great self promotion Dubas did to land the job after saying he was going to take a year off just weeks ago.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Dubas played the media like a fiddle, Pittsburgh's ownership group took the bait.

 

[RSPens]

Seeing as he seems to like his Soo guys, I could see him try to make a case for Murray or Campbell...or maybe he finds a way to help Lehner get over his issues...but in general I hope he stays away from Soo alumni when it comes to the goaltending.

 

[Ciao]

All the best to Dubas and the Penguins. I wish them both well.

I'm not at all surprised to see Dubas land another position so soon after leaving the Leafs. He was successful in Toronto, and I think he will have the resources to succeed in Pittsburgh as well.

There's a lot of angry, jealous people obsessed with his career path. It's pretty remarkable, and I think he has a good future ahead of him.

 

[Night Shift]

Pitsburgh, what is you doing baby? Dumb move.

Thanks. At least Dubas won't be in the middle of Matthews pending move to play for Arizona

 

[Golden_Jet]

I'm not at all surprised to see Dubas land another position so soon after leaving the Leafs. He was successful in Toronto, and I think he will have the resources to succeed in Pittsburgh as well.

There's a lot of angry, jealous people obsessed with his career path. It's pretty remarkable, and I think he has a good future ahead of him.

Going out on a limb here, but I bet, Pens fans hope he is more successful than he was in Toronto.