GDT: Free Agent Friend-Z Part III - Moore please?

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Well, there's no natural utility in allowing the kids to battle it out if there are better options available from what we have now and what we can get now. With Hagelin and Callahan out for the first bit, the kids will get their shot at competing for a spot among all the guys in that list above (Pou, Moore, Boyle, Pyatt, Dorse) and assuming at least 1 of the 3 already rangers are being moved, there's definitely spots and a decent time frame (training camp, preseason, first 2-3 weeks of Cally and Hags injuries) for the kids to battle it out for good.

I just get the feeling they wanted to leave at least 1 spot,open besides the injury possibilities.
 
I thought that was very fair too. That addresses two major NHL needs for Edmonton at the cost of a forward which is an area they have depth at. I'm not even gonna bother asking Oilers fans though. I can hear them complaining already.

"No MacDunnah?? No Stepin??!?"

:facepalm:

That's a horrendous deal for the Oilers.

Quality > Quantity

And they don't need a LHD anymore with the addition of Ference IIRC.
 
Just $ wise I guess. Zucc is not a must is all I'm saying I suppose. With all the extra depth in bottom 6 and at d, I fear something bigger is happening and I'm just trying to rationalize a way out of a DZ trade :laugh:

pyatt, asham, powe, for pretty much anything that skates. :laugh:
 
That's possible. But if Parros returned a 7th + bad prospect, so can Asham and Powe.

They may demote them, but I think they have a bigger deal in the works. Doesn't make sense to sign Moore and Pouliot when they just said they wanted to leave a couple of spots open for young players to battle over.

It's not like these guys are vets like Halpern or Powe. Guys who can be easily upgraded. The guys they have around wont get beat out by young players like Fast or Hrivik. Pouliot, Moore, Boyle, Pyatt, Dorsett. These guys are legit bottom 6 forwards.

Just seems backwards from what they just said.

Well, they could have had them for free just now so I doubt they get anything back, unless it's somebody to take up a contract spot.

And I think with Hagelin and Callahan out to start the season, they mean a top 6 spot. You have Nash and MZA (MZA at least to start). Kreider could take one of those spots. You still have a spot to fight over.
 
Edmonton won't trade Yakupov. They would think of trading Eberle first.

Exactly. You don't trade recent #1 picks (especially one drafted last season) for depth players.

Next season we will hear of MDZ + Boyle for MacKinnon. The reason being? Colorado wants defense.
 
Well, they could have had them for free just now so I doubt they get anything back, unless it's somebody to take up a contract spot.

And I think with Hagelin and Callahan out to start the season, they mean a top 6 spot. You have Nash and MZA (MZA at least to start). Kreider could take one of those spots. You still have a spot to fight over.

2 spots. Kreider isn't getting auto top 6 status, at least not on paper anyway. I mean, hell, if AV can create a 3 line that has a solid balance of offense on it, Kreider can be effective on the 3rd line. The 3rd line is what will make or break us. The top six is merely a combination of what has worked and what might work better. The 3rd line is what needs to work for anything good to come out of the season. I don't mind seeing a less conventional lineup in favor of a balanced 1-2-3 line all capable of scoring goals.
 
2 spots. Kreider isn't getting auto top 6 status, at least not on paper anyway. I mean, hell, if AV can create a 3 line that has a solid balance of offense on it, Kreider can be effective on the 3rd line. The 3rd line is what will make or break us. The top six is merely a combination of what has worked and what might work better. The 3rd line is what needs to work for anything good to come out of the season. I don't mind seeing a less conventional lineup in favor of a balanced 1-2-3 line all capable of scoring goals.

That's why I said "could" take one of those spots.
 
That's why I said "could" take one of those spots.

okay, well, either way :laugh:, there's plenty of fighting room given the quality of the youth that will be contending for those spots, since it's not a try out, long shot type of deal.
 
In a chat at ESPN.com, Strang writes that the Rangers and McDonagh re expected to come to terms on a deal soon and that she has heard they are willing to deviate from their normal two-year bridge contracts and sign him for a longer term.
 
Exactly. You don't trade recent #1 picks (especially one drafted last season) for depth players.

Next season we will hear of MDZ + Boyle for MacKinnon. The reason being? Colorado wants defense.

The guy scored 18 goals as a rookie in a shortened season. He'll score 35 next season. His potential is off the wall, he had a better start in the league than Stamkos did. He's about as untradable as you get. MacT is no dummy, he'll hold onto him.

Hell, Evander Kane is more realistic, and I think Winnepeg would be stupid to move him. They're going to be very good very soon.

If Del Zotto and Boyle are packaged, we'll get a nice player, just not a 19-22 year old stud.
 
How the hell did Filppula get 5m/yr? This is the worst day for contracts in the history of the NHL.

GMs need to improve their team. If GMs all stayed within the reasoning of salary negotiation based on a player's worth, then there are going to be a lot more GM firings for overall incompetence and inability to improve the team.
 
GMs need to improve their team. If GMs all stayed within the reasoning of salary negotiation based on a player's worth, then there are going to be a lot more GM firings for overall incompetence and inability to improve the team.

So you get rid of Vinny at 7.7m per, to sign Filppula? IMO Vinny is worth the extra 2.7m easily. I understand some overpayment on a UFA, but 5m/yr on a 5 year contract for this player is absurd.
 
The guy scored 18 goals as a rookie in a shortened season. He'll score 35 next season. His potential is off the wall, he had a better start in the league than Stamkos did. He's about as untradable as you get. MacT is no dummy, he'll hold onto him.

Hell, Evander Kane is more realistic, and I think Winnepeg would be stupid to move him. They're going to be very good very soon.

If Del Zotto and Boyle are packaged, we'll get a nice player, just not a 19-22 year old stud.

I do think Tyler Biggs may be a possiblity with the development of Leivo
 
So you get rid of Vinny at 7.7m per, to sign Filppula? IMO Vinny is worth the extra 2.7m easily. I understand some overpayment on a UFA, but 5m/yr on a 5 year contract for this player is absurd.

Vinny was making alot more though and when did his contract end? but yes, the signing is still stupid lol.
 
IMO the buy of the day was Weiss. Detroit got a great deal on Weiss. He will fit in there well.

Setoguchi went for a 2nd rounder. That is a steal for Winnipeg.
 
Seto sucks

13 goals in 48 games. Averaging 20+ goals per season.

This isn't a situation where he's paid like a 40 goal scorer who choses when he wants to show up. He's a 3 million dollar cap hit, which is clearly easy to move if the player isn't a fit.
 
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derek Stepan ($3.500m) / Chris Kreider ($1.325m)
Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.500m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Arron Asham ($1.000m)
Carl Hagelin ($1.250m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.250m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Justin Falk ($0.866m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,647,917; BONUSES: $762,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,414,583

Hags and Cally out to start the season thats why they are not included in lines, since we cannot bury Powe in the minors until the start of the season we would be over the cap with these numbers, but that is what I am expecting the RFA's to be signed for as foolish to give bridge deals to McDonagh and Stepan. Looks like someone will have to be moved and as others have said they want to open up space for kids to try and win a roster spot... Pyatt is the most logical forward and Del Zotto most logical defenseman.
 
13 goals in 48 games. Averaging 20+ goals per season.

This isn't a situation where he's paid like a 40 goal scorer who chooses when he wants to show up. He's a 3 million dollar cap hit, which is clearly easy to move if the player isn't a fit.

He's 26 and on his third team. There's a reason for that. Guy is maddeningly inconsistent.

He had that one huge season playing with JT and since then has maxed out at 41 points.
 
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