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Stop being difficult a 6-year-old could understand what I’m saying.
They don’t know how much their RFAs are going to cost so they’re not spending until then. Maybe, that’s my theory.
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They don’t know how much their RFAs are going to cost so they’re not spending until then. Maybe, that’s my theory.
Very interested to hear Gorton's statement on how he felt the Fast contract negotiations went down.
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
No it’s not. And when you factor in both of these players were not in the NHL at 18. Their miles can go further than most.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
We always hear this but most players decline sharply at 30. That's just the reality.
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
Most is not all. It’s beyond lazy to just say welp he is 30 he’s done. It’s extremely important to do the homework on each player when making a decision like this. Bread man and Kreider are definitely two players that will not sharply decline when they go past the 30 mark.
Neither of them starting playing NHL regularly at 18
Neither of them have had a serious injury (not counting the blood clot as it would of happen to Kreider if he wasn’t playing hockey so it’s not a injury that will change his playing longevity unless it happens again which is beyond slim)
those two notions alone is good enough to assume they will be good past 30
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
By the time the RFA's are settled, they won't be any targets left and their trade chips will be effectively re-signed. Re-signing a guy to trade him the same off-season has never happened outside of video games.Stop being difficult a 6-year-old could understand what I’m saying.
They don’t know how much their RFAs are going to cost so they’re not spending until then. Maybe, that’s my theory.
I get what you're saying about the financial outlook, but the way our team is constructed, we're done when those contracts are settled. Those players were the significant chips.
JT Kreider
FIRE GORDIE CLARK
I'm still trying to figure out what changed that made Gorton trade away better players in Miller and Hayes but decided to keep Kreider 1-2 years later.
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Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Or take the Hayes money and give it to Trouba a couple of months later.
We got really aggressive all of a sudden and now it's like....I don't even know.
We can disagree until the cows come home but I don't how you can say I'm wrong for being confused.
So using the Panarin example, the only way that you see the signing as beneficial is if we're competitive in the first 3 years of the contract? And after that there's no value since he's over 30?
I'm just confused how you don't see the long term value of signing Panarin when we did. Especially when you couple that with guys like Laf and Kakko coming into their prime years at the same time, it seems like the perfect blend from a contract and depth perspective.
Just because you don't like Carolina doesn't mean he doesn't. Maybe Fast prefers a smaller city, there are so many factors. You're oversimplifying this completely and projecting your thoughts on the city to those of Fast.
Machinehead
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The decline in players starts a lot earlier than it used to. Some can avoid it but most secumb to it. Panarin i don't think will be a problem, the Kreider deal will not age well because he is being paid like a 25+ goal scorer when he has only done that 2 times out of 7 years, most of those years on the top line and top pp. So there is a contrast in ages but the decline starts at 30 for most outside of the elite players in the league.
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He could see Kreider being a leader on an increasingly youthful team. He could not with the other two.
Machinehead
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I just think it's bold to assume Panarin is worth 11+M from 31-33 and it isn't maximizing his value.
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#Norris4Fox
I think a lot of the Miller one was personality/attitude based, but I agree that was weird to offload both of them but not Kreider, and now we're on the hunt for a #2c who's likely to cost what one of those two would have anyway
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
There is so much data to factor in when talking about a players decline.
It’s 100x worse in the NFL. And we’re still trying to understand why the rate is so significant.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I am curious what the Rangers offer was. Because reports indicate there was an offer for Fast to choose from. So now it’s a matter of what was different.
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#Norris4Fox
Does nobody care that all our RFAs filed for arbitration? Or is it just not that big of a deal and I’m stupid?
In the xx amount of years that I've committed to this team and hockey in general.
Outside of low budget teams, I honestly never seen a team handled quite like this.
I've been saying it all along with this GM..
Outside of low budget teams, I honestly never seen a team handled quite like this.
I've been saying it all along with this GM..
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
It’s pretty normal from the Rangers organization. I feel like we’ve done that to most of our RFAs
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
You know, apparently the ignore button is the cure for this drama. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
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#Norris4Fox
I wouldn’t blame him for simply preferring to play in Carolina. He’s going to be a perfect fit there.
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