Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part VI: Someone Get Gorton A Vesey Button.

[FIRE DRURY]

2019.

I see what you did there

 

[haohmaru]

I don’t see it.

This was I believe a bottom 3 team in the league after the new year and no one ahead of them other than the isles really got worse.

Hanks a year older and what ever they’ll make up on defense by not having AV they’ll probably lose on offense, which wasn’t great last year to begin with.

Possibly. Kreider was hurt. Smith was banished. The kids weren't up yet. They really didn't have (and maybe still don't) players to replace the people they traded. Namestnikov was probably shell shocked. The whole team, I think, was in a state of stupor given this announced rebuild was probably something they didn't see coming.

It'll be interesting. I think if certain things come together the right way, we can be competitive. Not Stanley Cup competitive, but in the running for 8. It just as likely they'll finish bottom 5. Oddly enough, I'm looking forward to this year a lot more than last year.

 

[Thirty One]

Possibly. Kreider was hurt. Smith was banished. The kids weren't up yet. They really didn't have (and maybe still don't) players to replace the people they traded. Namestnikov was probably shell shocked. The whole team, I think, was in a state of stupor given this announced rebuild was probably something they didn't see coming.

It'll be interesting. I think if certain things come together the right way, we can be competitive. Not Stanley Cup competitive, but in the running for 8. It just as likely they'll finish bottom 5. Oddly enough, I'm looking forward to this year a lot more than last year.

Shattenkirk too.

 

[haohmaru]

Shattenkirk too.

Good point.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Possibly. Kreider was hurt. Smith was banished. The kids weren't up yet. They really didn't have (and maybe still don't) players to replace the people they traded. Namestnikov was probably shell shocked. The whole team, I think, was in a state of stupor given this announced rebuild was probably something they didn't see coming.

It'll be interesting. I think if certain things come together the right way, we can be competitive. Not Stanley Cup competitive, but in the running for 8. It just as likely they'll finish bottom 5. Oddly enough, I'm looking forward to this year a lot more than last year.

People just assume players fit in after a deadline trade, but it's a lot easier to be traded from a lottery team to a contender, than the other way around. Namestnikov went from a winning culture to a team in a rebuild. There's no "winning vibe" that will lift you.

 

[Fvital92]

People just assume players fit in after a deadline trade, but it's a lot easier to be traded from a lottery team to a contender, than the other way around. Namestnikov went from a winning culture to a team in a rebuild. There's no "winning vibe" that will lift you.

Spooner was just fine, you can't make up excuses for Namestnikov play last year with the Rangers. He was bad, hopefully he will better this upcoming season.

 

[LORDE]

Possibly. Kreider was hurt. Smith was banished. The kids weren't up yet. They really didn't have (and maybe still don't) players to replace the people they traded. Namestnikov was probably shell shocked. The whole team, I think, was in a state of stupor given this announced rebuild was probably something they didn't see coming.

It'll be interesting. I think if certain things come together the right way, we can be competitive. Not Stanley Cup competitive, but in the running for 8. It just as likely they'll finish bottom 5. Oddly enough, I'm looking forward to this year a lot more than last year.

We have no #1 or #2 dman
We have one line on offense

Most of the rest are rookies or spare parts

Entirely new coaching staff as well (except for Allaire god bless him and Ruff)

I'm very much looking forward to it, but think bottom 5 is quite likely.

 

[Cag29]

[bernmeister mode]
- Win the lottery
- Draft Jack Hughes
- Trade Hayes for Quinn because he wants to play with his brother
- Trade Zuccarello for a 1st and draft Kakko
- Buy out Staal

Kreider-Hughes-Kravtsov
Andersson-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Namestnikov-Chytil-Kakko
Vesey-Howden-Fast

Hughes-Shattenkirk
Skjei-Hajek
Lindgren-Pionk

Shestyorkin
Lundqvist

[/bernmeister mode]

Kakko would be on the first line.

 

[Thirty One]

Spooner was just fine, you can't make up excuses for Namestnikov play last year with the Rangers. He was bad, hopefully he will better this upcoming season.

Not that I feel the need to be an advocate for Namestnikov, but it's possible that two similar situations affected two different people in different ways.

 

[Synergy27]

In what sense? All I'm pointing out is that the Rangers, recently, have had two top 5 guys in their prime who are/were considered elite players and they didn't get it done. I didn't get into team building, draft comparisons, level of "eliteness", or anything else. There isn't any dishonesty in that.

And, I'm sure if I were to expend the time and energy, I could find a whole host of teams with two top 5 picks, either their own or traded for, that weren't successful.

It's easy to make an argument when teams win around a generational player (Crosby) who plays with another almost generational player (Malkin) or a Toews/Kane combo where one was taken 3rd overall and the other 1st within a close timeframe and both became as successful as they are in the NHL. The fact is that most top draft picks will never be a Crosby. That's why he's "generational".

Draft as best as you can. Make trades to make the team better. Hire the right coaching staff. That's the best you can do.

It's dishonest in that you were implying, and now openly stating, that Rick Nash and Eric Staal were in their prime while here together.

 

[Avery16]

Waiting for the inevitable calls on this thread to sign Don Moore

 

[Fvital92]

Not that I feel the need to be an advocate for Namestnikov, but it's possible that two similar situations affected two different people in different ways.

Yeah, and one dealt with the situation accordingly and the other didn't.

 

[Irishguy42]

Yeah, and one dealt with the situation accordingly and the other didn't.

One must know these two players pretty well personally to make such a definitive statement.

 

[Tawnos]

Not that I feel the need to be an advocate for Namestnikov, but it's possible that two similar situations affected two different people in different ways.

Spooner was also invisible after his hot streak ended

 

[SA16]

That's um, quite the contract for Tom Wilson

 

[Irishguy42]

Wilson has the greatest agent in the NHL.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m not sure if I’m more surprised at Wilson’s contract or Capitals fans being happy with his contract

 

[Irishguy42]

Dude can't even hit 40 points playing with the likes of Kuznetzov, Backstrom, and Ovechkin, and he gets 5.17x6

Incredible.

 

[East Coast Bias]

I’m not usually surprised by this shit but that’s an insane contract. Shocking.

He’s a Jersey Shore Jimmy Vesey.

 

[Bob Richards]

The Tom Wilson signing thread(s) has generational prospect potential once we see how he plays it out. Could be a real fun one to revisit.

HF please keep paying your bills for a lil' longer.

 

[SA16]

Basically immediately up there among the worst contracts in the league

 

[rangers1314]

Any NTC/NMC for Wilson?

 

[TheGuarantee]

What about Dom Moore for a third stint? He’s smart, a harvard guy

 

[darko]

Dude can't even hit 40 points playing with the likes of Kuznetzov, Backstrom, and Ovechkin, and he gets 5.17x6

Incredible.

Damn.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Contracts like Tom Wilson's are why there's going to be another lockout in two years.