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I picture Sakic looking at himself in the mirror and saying "Don't let them bully you, don't let them call you stupid, you're the best" before every conversation he has with other GMs.
 
T2 said:
Serious question. Will people ever realize that face-offs have almost 0 impact on the game?
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Probably never, because they do ?

A won offensive draw is the difference between starting the offensive zone play, setting up that shot, versus hustling back to the defensive zone because the opponent is counterattacking at full speed.

A won defensive draw is the difference between controlling the play and making that breakout pass versus hoping that whatever defenseman we have on point is fast enough while channeling his inner Girardi to step in front of that cannon that is about to be unleashed.

But yeah, they mean nothing :)
 
T2 said:
Serious question. Will people ever realize that face-offs have almost 0 impact on the game?
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I can tell you that iv played at a higher level of hockey than 99% of people on this board, and can asure you that you're out to lunch
 
bigdog16 said:
I can tell you that iv played at a higher level of hockey than 99% of people on this board, and can asure you that you're out to lunch
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Except that he isn't.

https://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/02/illustrated-review-importance-nhl-faceoff

Are some face offs more important than others? No doubt about it, but over the long haul, they have little
affect on the game. I know the second the Rangers give up a goal after losing a face off in a close game the "FACEOFFZ MATTER" crowd likes to jump out of the bushes, but the truth is that I could probably point to at least a half dozen things that the team did in said game that were more detrimental than losing a draw.

A huge chunk of face offs are won by the wingers digging out the puck after the centers pretty much draw each other to a stalemate. A high face off percentage is near the bottom of the list of "nice to have" qualities of a team.
 
Placid said:
Probably never, because they do ?

A won offensive draw is the difference between starting the offensive zone play, setting up that shot, versus hustling back to the defensive zone because the opponent is counterattacking at full speed.

A won defensive draw is the difference between controlling the play and making that breakout pass versus hoping that whatever defenseman we have on point is fast enough while channeling his inner Girardi to step in front of that cannon that is about to be unleashed.

But yeah, they mean nothing :)
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Yeah. Pretty simple concept. You can't score when you don't have the puck. How anyone could think otherwise is hard to fathom.
 
Nickmo82 said:
Forgetting the fact that offer sheets almost never happen, because of the can of worms it opens, but isn't Burakovsky a winger? or a tweener at best?

We have one of those in Miller.
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The whole "can of worms" thing with oversheets is so overblown. It's just the GM's being scared of getting on the bad side of others

What's the negative? So you offersheet Burakovsky and the Caps retaliate and offer sheet one of your guys? First off the Caps GM isn't going to stay the same guy all the time. Second the Rangers and Caps don't trade much anyway so you don't have to worry about losing a trading part. Third, if the reason for the Caps offersheeting a Ranger is to retaliate they are liking making a decision bad for their hockey club just out of revenge.

It's an option in the CBA and it should be utilized.
 
Draws are between 45%-55% for teams. It's not much of a difference when you consider that there are 10 other things that are 10X more vital to possessing the puck than winning a draw. It's easy to point to a lost draw and say X, Y, and Z wouldn't have happened had we won the draw and X, Y, and Z only happened because we won the draw. In reality, most of the draws are a crap shoot. Short of losing a face off cleanly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to point to a 45% to 55% event and attribute what happens thereafter to it when it could have gone either way. Getting fixated on the variance is counter productive. It's nice to have good faceoff centers but logistically, it's a mistake to prioritize faceoffs when evaluating just about anything.
 
SA16 said:
The whole "can of worms" thing with oversheets is so overblown. It's just the GM's being scared of getting on the bad side of others

What's the negative? So you offersheet Burakovsky and the Caps retaliate and offer sheet one of your guys? First off the Caps GM isn't going to stay the same guy all the time. Second the Rangers and Caps don't trade much anyway so you don't have to worry about losing a trading part. Third, if the reason for the Caps offersheeting a Ranger is to retaliate they are liking making a decision bad for their hockey club just out of revenge.

It's an option in the CBA and it should be utilized.
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Who says the payback is limited to only the current Caps GM?
 
Lorb said:
Draws are between 45%-55% for teams. It's not much of a difference when you consider that there are 10 other things that are 10X more vital to possessing the puck than winning a draw. It's easy to point to a lost draw and say X, Y, and Z wouldn't have happened had we won the draw and X, Y, and Z only happened because we won the draw. In reality, most of the draws a crap shoot. Short of losing a face off cleanly, it doesn't make a lot of sense to point to a 45% to 55% event and attribute what happens thereafter to it when it could have gone either way.
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That's all fine and good. But when you lose a face off and the puck ends up in the back of your next a few seconds later it's safe to say 99% of the time you don't get scored on right there had you won that draw.
 
ReggieDunlop68 said:
Given the purported asking price, I'd pass on Duchene.
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As far as I know NYR havent been linked with him. The only reason its a discussion is because of the center ice positional need.

But what are NYR brass waiting on for our bottom 6 signings? Is it Kovalchuk? A trade rather than signing players? It seems unimaginable that a team which always has surplus veterans going into camp would leave spots open on the roster, particularly at forward where we have few if any immediate NHL prospects.
 
Antithesis said:
As far as I know NYR havent been linked with him. The only reason its a discussion is because of the center ice positional need.

But what are NYR brass waiting on for our bottom 6 signings? Is it Kovalchuk? A trade rather than signing players? It seems unimaginable that a team which always has surplus veterans going into camp would leave spots open on the roster, particularly at forward where we have few if any immediate NHL prospects.
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What's the rush?
 
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