Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part II - Who is left?
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NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
UAGoalieGuy
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Should really keep Hayes and Skjei. The return for Hayes likely will not be worth it right now.
Spooner and Zucc I see as the trade chips.
Spooner and Zucc I see as the trade chips.
If De Hann signs here, my feeling is Skjei gets traded to the other Ontario based team.
Yeah, that Reaves contract is going to hamstring VGK for years. C'mon man.
LaffyTaffy
Brooklyn-Belarussian
I doubt we get a haul for Hayes without taking a bad contract back. I think that is a more realistic return, if we mentally prepare ourselves for something like that and Hayes does get moved we might be in a position to be pleasantly urprised but certainly not disappointed.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
No it isn't. That doesn't mean it is a good deal. As I said earlier, maybe the Rangers were looking at a few guys but they decided to go elsewhere. I find that far more likely than the fact that we were just asleep at the wheel. We aren't the perennial playoff contender anymore. We are a rebuilding team that is at the bottom, not even on the upswing yet. That isn't very attractive to a lot of FA's.
What is the problem with three years? You frontload the money, put some of it in signing bonuses and then trade the cap hit to a team that needs it or can bury it.
Loom at the Matt Martin contract Toronto is trying to move right now. That is the model.
GregSirico
KakkoSZN
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JT, JVR, Stastny, Neal were really the only impact players that were FA. Not signing guys like Grabner, Roussel, Maroon, Riley Nash etc. really isn't going to make much of a difference.
Especially Maroon. That's a guy who is purely a product of his linemates. With Getzlaf/McDavid he's a big scorer. Without them he's useless.
I agree with their strategy. I wouldn't sign any of those guys. I'd rather make the yearly August signing of guys who are overlooked, sign cheap, and just as good as them (like Stempniak always does).
Anyway this team is still not nearly bad enough to be a bottom five team. It still has good goaltending. Defense is bad. Forward group lacks a superstar but is fine and has plenty of depth. Without several more trades this team is still going to score goals. I stand by my statement earlier that this team is more likely to make the playoffs than finish bottom five (provided no more moves)
Especially Maroon. That's a guy who is purely a product of his linemates. With Getzlaf/McDavid he's a big scorer. Without them he's useless.
I agree with their strategy. I wouldn't sign any of those guys. I'd rather make the yearly August signing of guys who are overlooked, sign cheap, and just as good as them (like Stempniak always does).
Anyway this team is still not nearly bad enough to be a bottom five team. It still has good goaltending. Defense is bad. Forward group lacks a superstar but is fine and has plenty of depth. Without several more trades this team is still going to score goals. I stand by my statement earlier that this team is more likely to make the playoffs than finish bottom five (provided no more moves)
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LaffyTaffy
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I throw 7x9 at Panarin, 7x10 at Karlsson and 7x9.5 at Seguin next summer if they all make it and hope for the best. I doubt Seguin makes it to market i think Dallas finds a way to keep him. But i certainly go hard for Panarin and Karlsson. Landing them would end our rebuild and we would still have space leftover to sign our RFA's. Go for the cup two more times before Hank's contract ends. As the contract ends Shesty becomes starter and Hank becomes backup and we keep at it because now we have a top-5 pipeline and still some superstars.
I'm sure there are some dark horse teams who might be interested in Hayes. I have a hard time seeing Boston dealing DeBrusk for him though.
Even if the Rangers do nothing else, I don't see how this is a team that will be rushing kids into the lineup. Plenty of players to play the big minutes and insulate them.
Even if the Rangers do nothing else, I don't see how this is a team that will be rushing kids into the lineup. Plenty of players to play the big minutes and insulate them.
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Why would we want Petry? He's 30 and has 3 years left on his contract. That's not the type of player a rebuilding team should be targeting.
LaffyTaffy
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After taking Spezza and adding Hintz i dont see what else would interest us that Dallas would be willing to give up. Klingberg is going nowhere.
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CommaSynapse
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If you don't find a favorable deal for an overpaid veteran, I don't see the point in taking one with longer term for a 7th rounder, for example.
I'd just sign a guy like Torrey Mitchell, Versteeg, or Letestu to a cheaper deal. Just a veteran who has been around for a while, can actually play, can push the kids or play over their head if necessary, be buried, take some heat, and possibly be a cheap add-on for a team at the deadline.
I'd personally like Hartnell. He checks all the boxes.
But I just hope we don't look at someone like Boll.
I'd just sign a guy like Torrey Mitchell, Versteeg, or Letestu to a cheaper deal. Just a veteran who has been around for a while, can actually play, can push the kids or play over their head if necessary, be buried, take some heat, and possibly be a cheap add-on for a team at the deadline.
I'd personally like Hartnell. He checks all the boxes.
But I just hope we don't look at someone like Boll.
Paulie Walnutz
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Would you take Backes from them to sweeten the deal? They wanna unload his contract and he checks off a few boxes for us.
offdacrossbar
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am i crazy wanting to back fill this roster with hartford kids and young prospects ?? i think we have leadership on this team now with henrik, zucc, ck, staal and shatty. we have guys who can lead.
im willing to suck for a season if we can avoid bad FA deals that steal minutes from young guys we like that are already earning checks in the organization.
prob not realistic but im willing to have some pain to develop a core that can grow and win together.
im willing to suck for a season if we can avoid bad FA deals that steal minutes from young guys we like that are already earning checks in the organization.
prob not realistic but im willing to have some pain to develop a core that can grow and win together.
Those are dollars we're going to want as soon as next year.
We already have 2 bad contracts that we won't be able to move (Staal and Smith) eating up 9ish million in space.
Combine Girardi's buy out money, and we're essentially throwing 11 mill down the drain.
If we didn't have those contracts, that would be one thing but unfortunately we do.
I look at it as the coach's mission (and the vets) to create a culture of busting your ass every shift for yourself and the guys next to you. That was one great thing Torts did. Doesn't matter if you lose, you just focus on your shift, your off-ice work that you put in, your job. Pick each other up. Fight for each other. Build comraderie.
If Quinn is even half as good as he's supposed to be, he should be able to do this unless the personalities in that locker room are complete garbage. If he does that, this team may miss the PO's but it won't damage anyone. They'll come back next year (with a big FA and another talented rookie or two I'm sure) and start really challenging each and every night again. The big question mark in this scenario is goal tending next year and the year after that.
I really like the hints of character and work ethic I've seen and read about from these guys. I do not feel worried at all.
For sure. Minnesota as well. They're going to be hanging a lot of hope on JEE to center the third line this year and have Nino likely getting 3rd line minutes.
Columbus was long rumored to be looking for center help as well. The Jets missed out on Stastny and could still stand to get some cap relief beyond this season.
GregSirico
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I don't know, there are some contracts out there I'm already not crazy about, and players who I don't think had any intention of signing with us.
I'm not sure the Rangers are asleep behind the wheel, so much as that they're not willing to go crazy for guys whose contract expectations just don't line up with where we are right now.
I think they liked a guy like Reider, but didn't want to match his offer past a certain.
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