GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G

[GermanSpitfire]

Alex DeBrincat for Matthew Tkachuk.

Boom.

That’s the deal.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Alex DeBrincat for Matthew Tkachuk.

Boom.

That’s the deal.

Awwwwkwaaard.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Awwwwkwaaard.

…

It does make some semblance of sense.


BUT


It paints the Sens in a bad light.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

What about Batherson if he is indeed involved in the situation?

Calgary has a real old boys club type mentality going so i doubt they would care if he was implicated.

Batherson + Zaitsev + Formenton for Matt + RD +??.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Stone strung the org along until the last minute. EK made it clear a full calendar year before UFA he was done here.

Exactly, sorry I was saying that we did well with EK, and then even with Stone and Duchene we made sure to deal them for something at the TDL.

I just can’t see why a team would ever gamble on getting a deal done after what we have seen. Now we have two epic examples.

It’s a business, and while trust is great, you can’t let the last valuable deadline pass without a deal signed.

Absolute boondoggle.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Batherson+Zaitsev+Formenton for Tkachuk


DeBrincat-Stutzle-Tkachuk
Tkachuk-Norris-Giroux

lol

but in reality though, the news of M. Tkachuk getting traded is phenomenal because it possibly means CGY goes on a bit of a retool and Tanev is free for our picking.

Man, I feel awful for CGY fans. Just awful. First Adam Fox, then Gaudreau, now M.Tkachuk. Holy shit, not even Ottawa has had it that bad.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

you guys are overthinking this so much.

pretty sure the majority of athletes would love to play with their brother. including the Tkachuk's who i believe have gone on record to say its a dream for them.

imagine winning a championship with your brother. nothing better.

Im not saying it couldnt work, its just not a slam dunk dynamic imo and there's some variables that comes with it that might not work. Every relationship is different and while playing with my brother had its pros, it had its cons too. Granted that wasnt pro sports obviously.

Maybe Im just not in love with MT as much on top of it, he's not what this team is missing imo.

 

[GCK]

Exactly, sorry I was saying that we did well with EK, and then even with Stone and Duchene we made sure to deal them for something at the TDL.

I just can’t see why a team would ever gamble on getting a deal done after what we have seen. Now we have two epic examples.

It’s a business, and while trust is great, you can’t let the last valuable deadline pass without a deal signed.

Absolute boondoggle.

I understand not trading Gaudreau at the deadline for multiple reasons but last summer was the time, just like Stone.

Batherson+Zaitsev+Formenton for Tkachuk


DeBrincat-Stutzle-Tkachuk
Tkachuk-Norris-Giroux

lol

but in reality though, the news of M. Tkachuk getting traded is phenomenal because it possibly means CGY goes on a bit of a retool and Tanev is free for our picking.

Man, I feel awful for CGY fans. Just awful. First Adam Fox, then Gaudreau, now M.Tkachuk. Holy shit, not even Ottawa has had it that bad.

Winnipeg-esque

 

[GCK]

If Dorion calls up Tkachuk and gets him to agree on a 6 x 8.25 which is the same as Brady, then and only then would I even consider throwing them Debrincat in a straight swap.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

If Dorion calls up Tkachuk and gets him to agree on a 6 x 8.25 which is the same as Brady, then and only then would I even consider throwing them Debrincat in a straight swap.

meh I don't think he cares about the captaincy so much but to be paid the same as his brother when he put up 100 point season which Brady will never do?

That he would have issue with. Like any player would who outplays a teammate to that level. It would be 9m-10m at least. Brady got that contract after a 50 point season. 50 vs 100, same money makes no sense.

 

[GCK]

meh I don't think he cares about the captaincy so much but to be paid the same as his brother when he put up 100 point season which Brady will never do?

That he would have issue with. Like any player would who outplays a teammate to that level. It would be 9m-10m at least. Brady got that contract after a 50 point season. 50 vs 100, same money makes no sense.

So f*** him then.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Batherson+Zaitsev+Formenton for Tkachuk


DeBrincat-Stutzle-Tkachuk
Tkachuk-Norris-Giroux

lol

but in reality though, the news of M. Tkachuk getting traded is phenomenal because it possibly means CGY goes on a bit of a retool and Tanev is free for our picking.

Man, I feel awful for CGY fans. Just awful. First Adam Fox, then Gaudreau, now M.Tkachuk. Holy shit, not even Ottawa has had it that bad.

I mean we lost Chara, then we also lost Alfie for his last season, then we lost EK, Stone, Duchene all in one year, then JPG the following season…

We know loss my man…..

So f*** him then.

Yeah I mean if you want the Dream to come true then you have to pay for it; that’s the price.

We have no reason to screw our future cap situation for anyone to be honest. If guys want to win here then they have to be cognizant of the cap structure that allows the most high caliber players to play on the team

Guys that want 10mill can be packaged away in my opinion, it cuts into the teams chances to win it all.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I understand not trading Gaudreau at the deadline for multiple reasons but last summer was the time, just like Stone.


Winnipeg-esque

They were never really contenders, they should have taken the hit for the smart play. Now they have nothing to show for him, and everyone else is jumping ship…

 

[GCK]

They were never really contenders, they should have taken the hit for the smart play. Now they have nothing to show for him, and everyone else is jumping ship…

They couldn’t move him at the deadline, it would have poisoned the relationship with the fans. Rip the bandaid off a year early.

 

[Ice-Tray]

They couldn’t move him at the deadline, it would have poisoned the relationship with the fans. Rip the bandaid off a year early.

I totally agree, but given that they didn’t, or like us rode a season of positive overtures, you still have to deal him at the deadline, fans be damned.

Nothing balms a fan wound better than a couple high draft picks in the of season in return for a guy that wouldn’t sign a deal with your club.

There simply is no excuse to ride that deal past the deadline unless the player is close to retirement, or you are a definite cup favourite and you decide to let it ride.

 

[Sens Vader]

I thought we were figuring out the defence

 

[bacon25]

What about Batherson if he is indeed involved in the situation?

Calgary has a real old boys club type mentality going so i doubt they would care if he was implicated.

Batherson + Zaitsev + Formenton for Matt + RD +??.

How so? If we wanted to unload players with sketchy backgrounds wouldn't Caroline or Montreal be better options.

 

[bert]

What about Batherson if he is indeed involved in the situation?

Calgary has a real old boys club type mentality going so i doubt they would care if he was implicated.

Batherson + Zaitsev + Formenton for Matt + RD +??.

If the player is involved they have no value. It's one or the other. That's a really bad trade for the sens if we follow those rules.

 

[SpezDispenser]

If the player is involved they have no value. It's one or the other. That's a really bad trade for the sens if we follow those rules.

I love Batherson, just love him, perhaps my favorite Sens player, but the chance to trade him and Formenton for chucky and tanev? How do you say no?

Our cap is f***ed in a year though, that's the argument against.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

If the player is involved they have no value. It's one or the other. That's a really bad trade for the sens if we follow those rules.

like is said maybe Calgary doesn't care as much as us, at least ownership wise.

and the no value thing is true but I mean, Batherson at that stupid steal of a contract is plenty value for some even with the possible baggage.

 

[Senovision]

Yes, Batherson is such a great value contract. $5 million a year through the 2026-27 season.

 

[bert]

like is said maybe Calgary doesn't care as much as us, at least ownership wise.

and the no value thing is true but I mean, Batherson at that stupid steal of a contract is plenty value for some even with the possible baggage.

Hence why it's so bad for the sens. Tkachuk will cost double and I am not sure if he is any better.

I love Batherson, just love him, perhaps my favorite Sens player, but the chance to trade him and Formenton for chucky and tanev? How do you say no?

Our cap is f***ed in a year though, that's the argument against.

You say no because it will prevent this team from winning a cup in a few years when the core is old enough and experienced enough to do it. They aren't winning next season. More than double the salary the team gets way older and isn't even better. People need to have some patience.

The last thing I will say is this assumption that players are guilty without knowing absolutely anything about what actually took place makes me sick. I think the audacity of some people to just assume then persecute without knowing anything tangible speaks to their own insecurities. Real slippery slope when the public is making these decisions over professionals that have the facts and actually need to be held accountable.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Hence why it's so bad for the sens. Tkachuk will cost double and I am not sure if he is any better.


You say no because it will prevent this team from winning a cup in a few years when the core is old enough and experienced enough to do it. They aren't winning next season. More than double the salary the team gets say older and isn't even better. People need to have some patience.

The allure is there to see the Tkachuk Brothers massacre other teams for the next decade, but even with the cap rising, it's too much.

 

[bert]

The allure is there to see the Tkachuk Brothers massacre other teams for the next decade, but even with the cap rising, it's too much.

I find zero allure to it personally.

 

[SenatorsLegionary]

I would imagine it would mean moving Zaitsev+ someone in the top 6, likely Batherson. We could definitely make it work, its how badly do we want to make it work? I think the answer is probably not bad enough, but boy it would be fun to watch those 2 on the same team. We would be one of the hardest teams to play come April/May

I agree that Zaitsev and top 6 player would have to go to make it work, but I'd be very hesitant to move Batherson, the production we are going to get for his contract holds a ton of value. I feel like that contract will be instrumental in keeping our window open for as long as possible