GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G

[IranCondraAffair]

I want nothing to do with Klingberg.

+/- is not a good indicator of things but the parity between him and other good defensive d's is too notable to ignore.

We need a pillar alongside Sanderson or Chabot, nothing like Klingberg.

Well, the flip side is that, before the coaching change, he was one of the best in the league. So if you subscribe to the notion that his decline was caused by the new coach and system, there's a good chance he can turn things around.

 

[playasRus]

Always an outside chance things go sour with CGY and Tkachuk and we can swoop in on their elderly RD to kick-start their rebuild.

Tanev + Lucic 25% retained for Zaitsev + 2nd + JBD

 

[Bileur]

I think most of us did. I went to school with Claude Verret to name one and probably a couple more Claude Verret - Wikipedia

Username checks out.

If we do get to the playoffs, I want the Leafs in the first round.

I feel like, if you punch them in the face Game 1, they'll fold. Even if you're down 3-1, I feel like you can come back against the Leafs more than most teams. Maybe it is wrong, but it feels like they're lost so many times that it doesn't matter how behind you get, their previous incompetence gives you the faith that you'll pull through.

They are building their team using math and spreadsheets to fill the holes around the roster. Which is fine, but it seems like they have nowhere on their excel spreadsheet for grit. It is virtually impossible to acquire it. As someone who watched the Sens in the 1990's and 2000's can tell you. You either build it or trade for it.

The Leafs are mentally weak, as a team. Until that core changes, I give them Zero chance of winning anything. There is something rotten there.

I’m feeling much better about facing the leafs than three weeks ago but our D is still far from solid enough to contain Auston Matthews. I agree that they are vulnerable and weak mentally (way worse than any of the battle of Ontario Sens teams), but he could still feast against the Sens current D.

Sens defense is still on the smaller side as we currently don't have a single D man listed at 220 lbs+. We have some D prospects that could end up being that size but they are still a while away and Sanderson could be that big but he isn't that size yet.

Jakob Chychurn is 6'2 220 lbs so acquiring him would give us some more size. But he is likely expensive to acquire via trade.

If we go for a more cost effective trade while looking to dump Zaitsev then Tyler Myers could be an option and he is listed at 6'8 229 lbs.

Then there is Zdeno Chara who is a UFA and is expected to make a decision on whether he will play or not closer to September. Chara is 6'9 250 lbs. He wouldn't be a top 4 option but he could be a decent depth signing and it might be nice to have him put on the Sens jersey one more time before he retires.

The Sens could do both by getting one of Chychurn or Myers and then adding Chara as an extra d. It would certainly be entertaining to see a Chara-Myers pairing even if it was only for a few games or a few shifts.

Chara seems pretty washed but I’d be in for nostalgia’s sake. Would be a good mentor for the whole team and an interesting partner for Lassi.

He can also still punch the lights out of pretty much anyone in the league.

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

If we can’t get a RHD (which I still believe we have something in the works), starting a top 6 of
Chabot-Brannstrom
Sanderson-Zub
Holden-Hamonic
JBD
Is a lot better then what we had last year to start. We have a much better team with players slotted in the right position and more scoring power. Also there is confidence in goaltending this year.

My only concern is playing Chabot too much. We really need to cut his time down. That’s why I hope we do land another Dman. Regardless,I believe we are in a much better position to start the season on the right track.

 

[Big Muddy]

gotta reach the floor somehow

OK. I was just wondering if there was more recent info from the Coyotes.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I truly believe we can get Chychrun without including Greig or Pinto.

2024 1st
Boucher/Ostapchuk
Thomson/JBD
2nd
Zaitsev

Or we can use the assets above to pry a solid defender from another team in a cap crunch or needing cap flexibility.

Is it a given that we (the org) value Grieg over Boucher? I would hope so, but you never know.

Either way, I think there is a lot to gain from adding Klingberg. He would take a lot of pressure off of Chabot and Sanderson offensively. He has also been an effective defensive player before Bowness took over.

Jack Han has a nice article on Klingberg and his recent struggles: Living Dangerously With John Klingberg

This is still a guy who is top 20 in D points & top 10 in D PP points over the last three years. He would allow us to run a truly stacked PP & rely less on Chabot - lets not forget, this is a guy who was one of the best transition DMen in the league for years, and a guy who has played 22+ min and 19+ min at ES on a team that has 46 playoff games over the last 4 yrs.

 

[Korpse]

Is it a given that we (the org) value Grieg over Boucher? I would hope so, but you never know.

Greig wears #17. Boucher wears #54. They let a 19 year old at his first training camp pick his number.

 

[Bileur]

Greig wears #17. Boucher wears #54. They let a 19 year old at his first training camp pick his number.

This definitely made me raise an eyebrow.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

If we're going to give up a king's ransom in picks and prospects, why not do it for a player who actually plays the position we need?

The Islanders are sitting there with a cap crunch and they have Ryan Pulock, Scott Mayfield, and Noah Dobson.

 

[Sens Vader]

I think you just go Klingberg if he’s open to Ottawa like Lebrun mentioned

I haven’t watched him play the last couple years but he was dynamite during their cup finals run

Free asset too. I honestly think Ottawa is the best spot for him as well

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If we're going to give up a king's ransom in picks and prospects, why not do it for a player who actually plays the position we need?

The Islanders are sitting there with a cap crunch and they have Ryan Pulock, Scott Mayfield, and Noah Dobson.

Pulock is nice and Lou is really dumb

 

[SpezDispenser]

I think you just go Klingberg if he’s open to Ottawa like Lebrun mentioned

I haven’t watched him play the last couple years but he was dynamite during their cup finals run

Free asset too. I honestly think Ottawa is the best spot for him as well

3 years max though. I dont want a guy who declines to the point of no return.

2 years would be great. We're a huge spot where he can come in and pad his stats and then look for a bigger contract.

 

[Cosmix]

Sanderson will become the pillar on his pairing

I think he will too; however, it may take a year or two to get to top 4 D level as he matures physically and gains experience playing against NHL level pros who are "men", not boys, and are bigger, stronger, faster and more experienced than him at this time.

3 years max though. I dont want a guy who declines to the point of no return.

2 years would be great. We're a huge spot where he can come in and pad his stats and then look for a bigger contract.

He turns 30 soon, so the maximum in years I would go is 5; preferably less.

This definitely made me raise an eyebrow.

I have no problem with it if the number was available. It is a "good sign" though as prospects usually get higher numbers beyond the 30s.

 

[Cosmix]

If we can’t get a RHD (which I still believe we have something in the works), starting a top 6 of
Chabot-Brannstrom
Sanderson-Zub
Holden-Hamonic
JBD
Is a lot better then what we had last year to start. We have a much better team with players slotted in the right position and more scoring power. Also there is confidence in goaltending this year.

My only concern is playing Chabot too much. We really need to cut his time down. That’s why I hope we do land another Dman. Regardless,I believe we are in a much better position to start the season on the right track.

I fear Brannstrom playing on the 1st Pair. He fits better on the 2nd or 3rd Pairing where he can be matched up against lower lines rather than top lines.

Is it a given that we (the org) value Grieg over Boucher? I would hope so, but you never know.

Either way, I think there is a lot to gain from adding Klingberg. He would take a lot of pressure off of Chabot and Sanderson offensively. He has also been an effective defensive player before Bowness took over.

Jack Han has a nice article on Klingberg and his recent struggles: Living Dangerously With John Klingberg

This is still a guy who is top 20 in D points & top 10 in D PP points over the last three years. He would allow us to run a truly stacked PP & rely less on Chabot - lets not forget, this is a guy who was one of the best transition DMen in the league for years, and a guy who has played 22+ min and 19+ min at ES on a team that has 46 playoff games over the last 4 yrs.

I value Greig higher than Boucher at this time. Greig has progressed in his development and can score. Boucher has not accomplished as much as Greig.

 

[SensFactor]

Havoc line:

Tkachuk - Boucher - Greig

 

[guyzeur]

Havoc line:

Tkachuk - Boucher - Greig

the opposite would be? You can take last year line up if it's easier

 

[DJB]

the opposite would be?

Tierney - Colin White - Gaudette

 

[guyzeur]

Tierney - Colin White - Gaudette

add 2 Ds now

 

[operasen]

I think you just go Klingberg if he’s open to Ottawa like Lebrun mentioned

I haven’t watched him play the last couple years but he was dynamite during their cup finals run

Free asset too. I honestly think Ottawa is the best spot for him as well

I’d rather keep the picks and prospects we’ve earned. Free Wallet. Yes expensive but in a couple of years we’ll be retooling the Cap considerations anyway. Klingberg is legit.
Send Zaitsev with a 3rd anywhere that will take it for no return.

 

[SensFactor]

the opposite would be?

not sure but it would include Tierney

 

[guyzeur]

Tierney - Colin White - Gaudette

add 2 Ds now

I’d rather keep the picks and prospects we’ve earned. Free Wallet. Yes expensive but in a couple of years we’ll be retooling the Cap considerations anyway. Klingberg is legit.
Send Zaitsev with a 3rd anywhere that will take it for no return.

the real Ottberia: Siberia

 

[Cosmix]

Havoc line:

Tkachuk - Boucher - Greig

Boucher plays center?

 

[SensFactor]

I want a Top 4D like everyone else, but i'm happy going with what we have right now. Maybe someone will surprise at camp. Klingberg is great offensively but he has some shortcoming defensively. Over the last 3 years he is a combined -53 in +/-

 

[operasen]

Maybe we’re waiting on Lassi and JBD to show they will force the club to keep them up in Camp

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I value Greig higher than Boucher at this time. Greig has progressed in his development and can score. Boucher has not accomplished as much as Greig.

I agree, by a huge margin. But our opinions don't carry much weight given that I am pretty sure neither of us would have taken Boucher close to 10 (and I am guessing you are high on Grieg, as I have been since before the draft and have only grown higher on him since).

I want a Top 4D like everyone else, but i'm happy going with what we have right now. Maybe someone will surprise at camp. Klingberg is great offensively but he has some shortcoming defensively. Over the last 3 years he is a combined -53 in +/-

Klingberg was very effective defensively before Bowness, and continued to be effective when playing with skilled players.

I suggest you take a look at Jack Han's article on him. It breaks down his issues very well.

He has his limitations, but he also has the ability to be a legitimate elite player who adds value at every area of the ice.