GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G - PART 2

[Gil Gunderson]

I wonder if Ostaphuk’s recent surge and Jarventie having a good WJC showing would make Dorion less reluctant to move Greig in a trade for Chychrun, providing they take Zaitsev too.

 

[playasRus]

Should just tell him he's going to Belleville if he wont waive.

The irony of getting burned by another ntc on a TML cap dump dman is too much lol.

Not sure going to Belleville is worst than Arizona in this current political climates

 

[bert]

Fake news from July 23 when someone on Habs Twitter got a little cute.

The way NJD fans defend him on these boards though, makes me think he still has enough juice to be a good #5-6D with upside and would work great as a locker room guy + mentor.

Want nothing to do with Subban in the locker room. NJ fans are also the most delusional on these boards.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Hold up on Chychrun trade is Zaitsev. If he decided to waive, or if he gets dealt elsewhere, Chychrun will be an Ottawa Senator 100%

Where did you hear this

 

[2CHAINZ]

Where did you hear this

 

[Masked]

Want nothing to do with Subban in the locker room. NJ fans are also the most delusional on these boards.

I can't see any team on here touching Edmonton. They're in a class amongst themselves.

Assen na yo!

 

[Bileur]

Apparently Austin Watson has 9 half siblings.

Someone ask his stepdad, he must know something.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I wonder if Ostaphuk’s recent surge and Jarventie having a good WJC showing would make Dorion less reluctant to move Greig in a trade for Chychrun, providing they take Zaitsev too.

Who says he's at all reluctant

 

[SpezDispenser]

Who says he's at all reluctant

I'm sure of it. The hold up is Greig or Pinto. No one knows for sure on here though lol. Maybe Benjiv

 

[2CHAINZ]

Apparently Austin Watson has 9 half siblings.

Someone ask his stepdad, he must know something.

f***. We should be asking him for sure.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'm sure of it. The hold up is Greig or Pinto. No one knows for sure on here though lol. Maybe Benjiv

There has to be more to the package than Greig or Pinto.,

I think it stems from confusion on Zaitsev's value. On the one hand he is an elite defender with among the best feet in the NHL and on the other hand teams are asking for picks/prospects to take him.

So if I understand correctly you are saying that we would have Chychrun if PD would give up Greig.
If it was Greig for Chychrun I think the deal would/should be done.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

If not for the WJ team controversy I'd be fine trading Greig for Chychrun.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Arizona probably wants Greig/Pinto + 1st and then more for taking on Zaitsev.

Considering we will want to give huge deals to DBC and Stutzle, we may not be able to make everything work if we give up our top prospects who should be good cheap labour.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Arizona probably wants Greig/Pinto + 1st and then more for taking on Zaitsev.

Considering we will want to give huge deals to DBC and Stutzle, we may not be able to make everything work if we give up our top prospects who should be good cheap labour.

It's still doable, you can find quality 3rd liners for 1-1.5 mil on the market. Getting a #1/#2 dman at 4.7 mil for 3 years is also fantastic value. Put them on seperate pairings and it’ll be like having a resated Chabot on the ice for over 80% of the game.

I think Pinto is probably off the table, he's the ideal 3rd line centre. They probably view Greig as a winger in the NHL.

 

[Cosmix]

I'm sure of it. The hold up is Greig or Pinto. No one knows for sure on here though lol. Maybe Benjiv

I wonder if Arizona is asking for our 2023 1st round pick unprotected and we have only offered it protected top 5 or similar plus 2nd and lower round picks.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Arizona probably wants Greig/Pinto + 1st and then more for taking on Zaitsev.

Considering we will want to give huge deals to DBC and Stutzle, we may not be able to make everything work if we give up our top prospects who should be good cheap labour.

Sens are probably offering Formenton instead of Greig, who might be able to replace Formenton on the 3rd line as soon as next season for around 2M less.

Formenton, one of our D prospects, 2023 1st, 2024 2nd, Zaitsev, maybe another pick/prospect is an offer I could see the Yotes taking if the Hockey Canada investigation doesn't amount to anything.

 

[SpezDispenser]

There has to be more to the package than Greig or Pinto.,

I think it stems from confusion on Zaitsev's value. On the one hand he is an elite defender with among the best feet in the NHL and on the other hand teams are asking for picks/prospects to take him.

So if I understand correctly you are saying that we would have Chychrun if PD would give up Greig.
If it was Greig for Chychrun I think the deal would/should be done.

I think the framework of what Arizona wants is Greig/Pinto + 1st. The other pieces would be easy to arrange. Letting go of Pinto or Greig would not.

I truly think Arizona is waiting for PD to blink.

I wonder if Arizona is asking for our 2023 1st round pick unprotected and we have only offered it protected top 5 or similar plus 2nd and lower round picks.

Who knows...I personally doubt that's the hold up. If that was it, I'd just do it if I was PD. Yes, it's risky, I certainly think we all get that from the Duchene deal, but we're f-ing loaded for bear right now. Completely and utterly loaded, we might as well go for it. I doubt that picks becomes anything*



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[Gil Gunderson]

Top 2 protected.

 

[Senscore]

I truly think Arizona is waiting for PD to blink.

Old Pierre would have, but we still have a lot of Summer to go.

Seriously though I think the improvements otherwise and the young talent depth on D puts us in a solid position to not budge out of desperation.

 

[playasRus]

Old Pierre would have, but we still have a lot of Summer to go.

Seriously though I think the improvements otherwise and the young talent depth on D puts us in a solid position to not budge out of desperation.

But also, his jobs not on the line, every passing 6 months unloading Zaitsev becomes cheaper by about a 3rd to 4th round pick value (without costing us much in real dollars going forward), and Chychrun's value goes down wiht less contract length.

Assuming no other major player is involved in grtting Chychrun which I doubt considering we're talking a top pairing or at worst second pairing young D on a very reasonable contract. Hell, people are asking about Seth Jones.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Sens are probably offering Formenton instead of Greig, who might be able to replace Formenton on the 3rd line as soon as next season for around 2M less.

Formenton, one of our D prospects, 2023 1st, 2024 2nd, Zaitsev, maybe another pick/prospect is an offer I could see the Yotes taking if the Hockey Canada investigation doesn't amount to anything.

Doubt it. Who will be our 3LW? Parker Kelly?

Our top 9 is set in stone IMO

 

[Micklebot]

Doubt it. Who will be our 3LW? Parker Kelly?

Our top 9 is set in stone IMO

Replacing a third line winger is far easier than a top 4 D. If we do move Formenton, we've got a few options in Belleville with Greig, Sokolov and Crookshank that could give us 3rd line mins. Lodin could get a look too.

That's not to say we won't miss Formenton just that our top 4 d is more important than 3rd line wingers

 

[Hale The Villain]

Doubt it. Who will be our 3LW? Parker Kelly?

Our top 9 is set in stone IMO

I imagine they'd re-sign Ennis or a different guy in case Greig or Sokolov aren't ready yet.

 

[Micklebot]

I imagine they'd re-sign Ennis or a different guy in case Greig or Sokolov aren't ready yet.

At the prices players are going for right now, we could use a 2nd from 2024 and get a player like Brown.

 

[robsenz]

I imagine they'd re-sign Ennis or a different guy in case Greig or Sokolov aren't ready yet.

Outside the of Gambrell signing, I think they may be done going that route finally (I hope)