Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

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Senators pass

I'm not sure they do

 

[Golden_Jet]

I'm not sure they do

Maybe not you, but most Sens fans would.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I love Karlsson, but I pass on that. Norris is looking pretty good so far.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Senators pass

pass

Not against trading Norris. I would not be trying to trade for EK

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Dubas has to shake something up

Erik Karlsson (retained to $8m per year) for Josh Norris

Make it happen

That will happen next summer.

I think it would be a good shake up for us, except it's going to be difficult to convince Erik to wear an E.Karlsson nameplate after we trade Brady to Vegas for William Karlsson, Zach Whitecloud, and a condition 2028 2nd Round pick.

 

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That will happen next summer.

I think it would be a good shake up for us, except it's going to be difficult to convince Erik to wear an E.Karlsson nameplate after we trade Brady to Vegas for William Karlsson, Zach Whitecloud, and a condition 2028 2nd Round pick.

For some reason I have his wife on IG and she is hard on the “no place like home” rhetoric recently

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

For some reason I have his wife on IG and she is hard on the “no place like home” rhetoric recently

Dammit, it is going to be Marino, Kevin Bahl, and a 3rd from New Jersey.

Quick, start sending her Winterlude propaganda.

 

[bicboi64]

Dubas has to shake something up

Erik Karlsson (retained to $8m per year) for Josh Norris

Make it happen

I love EK, but we can't shake up the chemistry in our top 4 for Karlsson, and not unless he's half retained.

 

[TheNewEra]

Dubas has to shake something up

Erik Karlsson (retained to $8m per year) for Josh Norris

Make it happen

the time when Norris would have been potentially available was when there were maximum questions about his shoulder, i would not do this trade now and im still a huge fan of karlsson

karlsson at 50% bottom 6 pieces not named pinto could work but pittsburgh would be stupid to take that

maybe in the offseason depending on how much the cap goes up

 

[Hale The Villain]

EK to Ottawa died once we traded for Jensen and drafted Yakemchuk

The top 4 is set for the next couple years and Yakemchuk may only be 1-2 seasons away from finishing off the right-side behind Zub and Jensen.

At that point we'd have Sanderson, Chabot and Yakemchuk all capable of running a PP. EK would be unncessary overkill and exactly the wrong type of D to add to the roster.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

EK to Ottawa died once we traded for Jensen and drafted Yakemchuk

The top 4 is set for the next couple years and Yakemchuk may only be 1-2 seasons away from finishing off the right-side behind Zub and Jensen.

At that point we'd have Sanderson, Chabot and Yakemchuk all capable of running a PP. EK would be unncessary overkill and exactly the wrong type of D to add to the roster.

Ignoring all the obvious reasons why it doesn't make sense (cap, baggage with him being the former captain, etc), I think this could actually be the best time for him to play in Ottawa.

Imagine a setup where EK gets to be sheltered here because we already have a top 4. Basically, he could be Erik Wideman. All o-zone starts against soft deployment. Kleven on the bottom pair with him. He could still play 18+ minutes a game because there will times when we might want him up with Sanderson or Chabot to try and get our offense going. But he wouldn't be used as a 22-24 minute guy who is forced to carry one of the top pairings and play defense.

Look at how he was used in San Jose when they tried to pump up his numbers for a trade. Something like that, but with less minutes.

As far as Yak goes, Karlsson has 2 years left on his contract after this season. That's a nice buffer to take Yak along slowly and not rush his development. Yak could come in next year, but he also probably could have come in this year. They clearly want to take him slowly.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Ignoring all the obvious reasons why it doesn't make sense (cap, baggage with him being the former captain, etc), I think this could actually be the best time for him to play in Ottawa.

Imagine a setup where EK gets to be sheltered here because we already have a top 4. Basically, he could be Erik Wideman. All o-zone starts against soft deployment. Kleven on the bottom pair with him. He could still play 18+ minutes a game because there will times when we might want him up with Sanderson or Chabot to try and get our offense going. But he wouldn't be used as a 22-24 minute guy who is forced to carry one of the top pairings and play defense.

Look at how he was used in San Jose when they tried to pump up his numbers for a trade. Something like that, but with less minutes.

For whatever reason EK has never played to his potential when he wasn't counted on to be "the guy".

Whenever he's had to split opportunities with other talented offensive D he's been a disappointment.

Don't think he'd perform well playing a 3rd pairing RD role. Nor should we consider paying him big money to play in that spot.

 

[bicboi64]

Ignoring all the obvious reasons why it doesn't make sense (cap, baggage with him being the former captain, etc), I think this could actually be the best time for him to play in Ottawa.

Imagine a setup where EK gets to be sheltered here because we already have a top 4. Basically, he could be Erik Wideman. All o-zone starts against soft deployment. Kleven on the bottom pair with him. He could still play 18+ minutes a game because there will times when we might want him up with Sanderson or Chabot to try and get our offense going. But he wouldn't be used as a 22-24 minute guy who is forced to carry one of the top pairings and play defense.

Look at how he was used in San Jose when they tried to pump up his numbers for a trade. Something like that, but with less minutes.

As far as Yak goes, Karlsson has 2 years left on his contract after this season. That's a nice buffer to take Yak along slowly and not rush his development. Yak could come in next year, but he also probably could have come in this year. They clearly want to take him slowly.

Unless Pittsburgh trades him at half retention, and then another team trades him at another half retention, it won't work for us. We're too near the cap and can't afford EK unless he's at an absurdly low cap hit.

Having said that, if he wants to sign here at league minimum after we have a cup or two and his contract ends, sure

 

[Senscore]

I would play Karlsson over Hamonic.


Just putting that out there

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I used to want him back just to spite the previous regime and their shenanigan's, but at this point, it's time for this team to forge their own path. There's no spot for him that makes sense at his salary, even with a ton of retention.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Karlsson makes zero sense for the Sens anymore.

He can move back to his house in the Glebe when he retires if he really wants to. Or sign a Spezza with the Leafs deal to end his career.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

I used to want him back just to spite the previous regime and their shenanigan's, but at this point, it's time for this team to forge their own path. There's no spot for him that makes sense at his salary, even with a ton of retention.

Yup. One of my favourite players of all-time but he does not fit with the current roster. I mean if he was at a cap hit of $3M or less, sure, but that's not the case.

Our top 4 is looking pretty damn good lately and there is no reason to disrupt that. What we need is some cheap depth and/or an affordable upgrade on our bottom pair.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Yup. One of my favourite players of all-time but he does not fit with the current roster. I mean if he was at a cap hit of $3M or less, sure, but that's not the case.

Our top 4 is looking pretty damn good lately and there is no reason to disrupt that. What we need is some cheap depth and/or an affordable upgrade on our bottom pair.

Ya that salary just makes it not work, flat out. No way around it. A PP specialist on the right isn't the worst idea in the world, but not at any sort of significant cost.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

And Karlsson is waiving his full NMC to end up on a bottom of the league rebuilding team in Mtl? Just to save a couple hours in flight time every now and then?

Montreal is a world class city. Karlsson enjoys the finer things in life and Montreal delivers those things beautifully, in a way that few cities in North America do. I could see Karlsson loving the lifestyle there, and he has the disposition & style to become a fan favourite.

I could absolutely see it.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Blech, if there's one jersey I never wanted to see Karlsson in, it's a Habs jersey.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Gosh I love Old Montreal. I could live there and play for the Filth no problem at all.

 

[Micklebot]

Montreal is a world class city. Karlsson enjoys the finer things in life and Montreal delivers those things beautifully, in a way that few cities in North America do. I could see Karlsson loving the lifestyle there, and he has the disposition & style to become a fan favourite.

I could absolutely see it.

Idk, are we operating on the premise that Karlsson is ready to give up on his stanley cup dreams?

He's 34, and Mtl is currently the worst team in the league. It's one thing to move to a team that's ready for the next step but not quite there at that age, but I can't see him jumping on that boat without more of a carrot, he's got his entire life to enjoy the finer things of life, he can do that during the offseason to his hearts content, he can do it while on the road, right now, two things likely matter to him, winning and family. If his wife is hyped about Mtl, sure, maybe there's a chance, but overall it seems unlikely to me.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Not sure why Montreal would be interested in a 34 year old Karlsson.

They are a young rebuilding team and already have their undersized PP QB in Hutson.

Plus they have Matheson, who has developed into an excellent offensive D. Been a 60P/82GP guy for the Habs since they acquired him.

Honestly I struggle to see a fit for EK anywhere in the league right now. Pens are probably stuck with him.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Idk, are we operating on the premise that Karlsson is ready to give up on his stanley cup dreams?

He's 34, and Mtl is currently the worst team in the league. It's one thing to move to a team that's ready for the next step but not quite there at that age, but I can't see him jumping on that boat without more of a carrot, he's got his entire life to enjoy the finer things of life, he can do that during the offseason to his hearts content, he can do it while on the road, right now, two things likely matter to him, winning and family. If his wife is hyped about Mtl, sure, maybe there's a chance, but overall it seems unlikely to me.

There arent many teams who would or could acquire him and his hopes in Pittsburgh are even bleaker.

If Karlsson could pick his location your argument would carry lots of water but he is not a piece I see many teams scrambling to add at this point. Montreal is one of a small handful who could actually get much out of him without totally rearranging the deck

Not sure why Montreal would be interested in a 34 year old Karlsson.

They are a young rebuilding team and already have their undersized PP QB in Hutson.

Plus they have Matheson, who has developed into an excellent offensive D. Been a 60P/82GP guy for the Habs since they acquired him.

Honestly I struggle to see a fit for EK anywhere in the league right now. Pens are probably stuck with him.

Matheson will be moved for real value and Karlsson will cost very, very little. Theres also some value in throwing a colleague a bit of a bone, especially if you can do so while benefitting your team as well

 

[bicboi64]

Honestly I struggle to see a fit for EK anywhere in the league right now. Pens are probably stuck with him.

I was thinking a team like NYI could try acquiring him. Lou loves his aging/declining vets while stunting the development of younger guys and EK would fit in perfectly there lol