Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[h2]

Just a guess, but I think Dorion was looking for someone bigger and more physical to pair with Chabot. Marino falls more into the Demelo type of RHD, which we know Dorion didn't appreciate.

Dorion thought Zaitsev could play with Chabot.

His credibility when it came to evaluating defense is zero.

 

[bert]

I dont think Marino would cost much. Havent looked at NJs cap situation but I would guess his value is close to Joseph’s

Considering how in demand RD are why wouldnt he cost much? They must know they are getting Pesce if they are shopping him. Great asset management by Fitzgerald.

Would you move from 7 to 10 if they included Marino?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If NJD is in on Necas, and Carolina wants a top 7 pick go move him, we could do something around 7 for 10+Marino, and then NJD could deal 7 for Necas.

Not saying 7 alone does or doesn't get it done, but that would be the base.

Then we move Chychrun to LAK for 1st+Kaliyev to clear cap for Marino.

As far as Dorion not getting him before, I suspect it was a budget thing and they the cost to dump Zaitsev might have been more restrictive in the summer vs at the deadline. Not to mention, he was clearly hard after Chychrun and adding Marino would have probably closed the door on that.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Considering how in demand RD are why wouldnt he cost much? They must know they are getting Pesce if they are shopping him. Great asset management by Fitzgerald.

Would you move from 7 to 10 if they included Marino?

"Much" is relative, but it's possible that they're more motivated to move his contract quickly than to extract maximum value, and you could get him for less than you might otherwise be able to. Moving $4.4M without taking back salary is not automatic these days.

 

[Emerica]

Considering how in demand RD are why wouldnt he cost much? They must know they are getting Pesce if they are shopping him. Great asset management by Fitzgerald.

Would you move from 7 to 10 if they included Marino?

Personally, yes definitely

 

[bicboi64]

Considering how in demand RD are why wouldnt he cost much? They must know they are getting Pesce if they are shopping him. Great asset management by Fitzgerald.

Would you move from 7 to 10 if they included Marino?

I would.

We get a very good prospect + get a 2nd pairing RD who is cost controlled for a couple of seasons. If we can get the Jet's 2nd rounder next year or other assets it'd be a solid swap

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Considering how in demand RD are why wouldnt he cost much? They must know they are getting Pesce if they are shopping him. Great asset management by Fitzgerald.

Would you move from 7 to 10 if they included Marino?

My guess would be that he would cost at least a late 1st, but it's always difficult to predict these things with how much then market seems to change.

7 for 10+Marino only wouldn't be worth doing if someone we have in a higher tier than everybody else is on the board. If we can move down to 10 and get a comparable player, even if we don't get our absolute ideal guy, it's with it.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Funny, I posted yesterday how teams could strategically give a 34 year old front loaded max term to circumvent the salary cap. Apparently, that is what Tampa is trying to convince Stamkos to do. 8 years at a 3M AAV. This is per Lebrun.

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

If NJD is in on Necas, and Carolina wants a top 7 pick go move him, we could do something around 7 for 10+Marino, and then NJD could deal 7 for Necas.

Not saying 7 alone does or doesn't get it done, but that would be the base.

Then we move Chychrun to LAK for 1st+Kaliyev to clear cap for Marino.

As far as Dorion not getting him before, I suspect it was a budget thing and they the cost to dump Zaitsev might have been more restrictive in the summer vs at the deadline. Not to mention, he was clearly hard after Chychrun and adding Marino would have probably closed the door on that.

I don’t hate this deal at all

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Just a guess, but I think Dorion was looking for someone bigger and more physical to pair with Chabot. Marino falls more into the Demelo type of RHD, which we know Dorion didn't appreciate.

Then he ends up with Chychrun.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Marino could be a play, but I feel like there looking for someone with more bite on the back end vs an 180 lb RD. Maybe as a fallback.

 

[PlayOn]

Marino isn’t the best option for us considering we need guys that can actually clear the front of our net, but he’s still better than nothing. Not much else we can do if we can’t get one of the UFAs.

 

[guyzeur]

Dorion thought Zaitsev could play with Chabot.

His credibility when it came to evaluating defense is zero.

Most likely from DJ Smith even if it was said by Dorion

Then he ends up with Chychrun.

I don't get your comment, Chychrun is not small and could be very physical

 

[PlayOn]

David Perron​

Perron, another unrestricted free agent, is “still talking with Detroit,” agent Allan Walsh said Friday.

I believe the Minnesota Wild and Ottawa Senators are among the many teams who would show interest Monday if Perron went to market.

LeBrun rumblings: Latest on Guentzel, Stamkos, Kane and Marchessault ahead of the NHL Draft

Also the latest on the Golden Knights and Jonathan Marchessault, and the Detroit Red Wings and Patrick Kane.

www.nytimes.com

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

"Much" is relative, but it's possible that they're more motivated to move his contract quickly than to extract maximum value, and you could get him for less than you might otherwise be able to. Moving $4.4M without taking back salary is not automatic these days.

@bert this is basically my thought process

 

[Gil Gunderson]

LeBrun rumblings: Latest on Guentzel, Stamkos, Kane and Marchessault ahead of the NHL Draft

Also the latest on the Golden Knights and Jonathan Marchessault, and the Detroit Red Wings and Patrick Kane.

www.nytimes.com

Ouff I think Perron is going to have to have a huge decline starting next year.

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

Ouff I think Perron is going to have to have a huge decline starting next year.

And a big apology to Zub

 

[Hale The Villain]

Trading Chychrun for assets and then using those assets to acquire Marino would be amazing.

 

[Micklebot]

Funny, I posted yesterday how teams could strategically give a 34 year old front loaded max term to circumvent the salary cap. Apparently, that is what Tampa is trying to convince Stamkos to do. 8 years at a 3M AAV. This is per Lebrun.

Isn't this basically what got NJD fined 3 mil and a first round pick (later returned to them as 30oa) for?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Isn't this basically what got NJD fined 3 mil and a first round pick (later returned to them as 30oa) for?

I’d give a 2030 first for a few years of Stammer at $3m & I’d be grinning ear to ear

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Marino is a good fall back option for sure but like someone said, I also prefer RD that’s gonna bully you in front of the net.

No more soft players on the backend!!

 

[aragorn]

To Cal: 7th OA
To Ott: 9th OA & 41st OA

To Philly: 9th OA, Chychrun LD, Greig C/LW & Joseph LW/RW--- ($8. 413 mil out)
To Ott: 12th OA, Bonk RD, Foerster RW, Laughton LW & Johansen C/RW ($7.863 mil in)
- difference $.55K out

UFA: Justin Schultz RD

- Ott - 12th OA, 39th OA, 41st OA, Bonk RD & Foerster RW

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Foerster - 17.5
Norris - Pinto 5 - Batherson - 18
Laughton - Johansen - Giroux - 13.5
Kelly - Ostapchuk - MacEwan - 3 = $52

Sanderson - Schultz (3)
Chabot - Zub
Kleven - Hamonic/JBD - $26.6

Ullmark - Forsberg/Sogaard - $7.750 = $86.350

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Marino is a good fall back option for sure but like someone said, I also prefer RD that’s gonna bully you in front of the net.

No more soft players on the backend!!

A top 4 RHD who does that…which one of those is available?

 

[Micklebot]

I’d give a 2030 first for a few years of Stammer at $3m & I’d be grinning ear to ear

The signing was annulled the day after it was signed and the penalty imposed

 

[h2]

Marino is a good fall back option for sure but like someone said, I also prefer RD that’s gonna bully you in front of the net.

No more soft players on the backend!!

Remember in 2010 when we had Sutton-Carkner-Phillips-Volchenkov?

We had monsters back there. The crease was cleared lol