Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[The Devilish Buffoon]

That would be funny if they acquired him.

“Draft interviews are important to guage the character of these prospects”

“Let’s get the guy who will only sign if he’s handed a main roster spot”

Rutger is a high character player. Situation is not nearly as clear cut as youre saying

McGroaty is NOT worth Chychrun + anything! Dorion has conditioned this fanbase to under-value all things Sens.

Or maybe you and I just disagree on McGroarty’s value…

Give me McGroarty over a 20th + 45th pick in this draft any day.

 

[Micklebot]

"A guy we draft this week isn't likely to be ready for top 4 duties in a year from now, great options or not."
Lets wait and see.

Hey, if he is that's great, but it's not the norm or something that should be expected, the point is you don't trade guys off on the hope and prayer that guys will develop ahead of a typical schedule, so wait and see is exactly what I'm advocating, don't make moves until you see they are ready to fill the vacancy you're creating

 

[Blotto71]

Or maybe you and I just disagree on McGroarty’s value…

Give me McGroarty over a 20th + 45th pick in this draft any day.

I would also see McGroaty as a good add, but would want the Jets to add to get Chychrun. Another poster mentioned Barron - he would fill the 4C spot very nicely.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I would also see McGroaty as a good add, but would wnat the Jets to add to get Chychrun. Another poster mentioned Baron - he would fill the 4C spot very nicely.

Hey, I’d be thrilled. But when you look at upside and NHL readiness, I’d be shocked if we get an asset as good as McGroarty in a Chychrun trade. Any team outside of the top 10 should seriously consider trading their pick for him, IMO, and I would look long and hard at 7 for him + a guy like Barron (and maybe a midrounder).

 

[Blotto71]

The era of Dorion and Garrioch is over so we don't need another drama queen.
Crunchy can't execute a zone exit, handles the puck like a grenade and before last season was not often injured, always injured
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Chabot's games played
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Can you guess who was often injured and was rumored to be traded early in his career as a Sens?
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That guy is on an entirely different level - he earned the patience he was shown.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Ottawa’s staff were extremely high on Rutger before they pulled off the DeBrincat trade FWIW….

Should have just selected him then!

 

[Tuna99]

Ottawa’s staff were extremely high on Rutger before they pulled off the DeBrincat trade FWIW….

Dorion was high on something

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Rutger is a high character player. Situation is not nearly as clear cut as youre saying


Or maybe you and I just disagree on McGroarty’s value…

Give me McGroarty over a 20th + 45th pick in this draft any day.

I haven’t seen much of Rutger. We’ve all heard what kind guy he is

If we traded back with Philly to 12 and got an additional second would you be ok flipping that 12 over to jets?

 

[GCK]

I haven’t seen much of Rutger. We’ve all heard what kind guy he is

If we traded back with Philly to 12 and got an additional second would you be ok flipping that 12 over to jets?

Depends who is available at 12.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Depends who is available at 12.

Well rutger went 14 and has really only improved his stock since the draft. Is there someone in this draft who we see on the same level?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Well rutger went 14 and has really only improved his stock since the draft. Is there someone in this draft who we see on the same level?

Jets pretty much in a box where they have to move him. So its possible a bargain on him could be had.

 

[Tuna99]

Well rutger went 14 and has really only improved his stock since the draft. Is there someone in this draft who we see on the same level?

Ottawa trades back to #9 so Flames can draft Iginla and Ottawa trades #9 for McGroaty ?

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

And?

Sanderson for Trouba.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Ottawa’s staff were extremely high on Rutger before they pulled off the DeBrincat trade FWIW….

Two guys that don't want to play for their respective teams. Dorion had a style for sure.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Well rutger went 14 and has really only improved his stock since the draft. Is there someone in this draft who we see on the same level?

Agreed with @GCK but, so long as we get good value in moving from 7 to 12, I cant see myself being too disappointed ending day 1 with Rutger added to our pool

 

[guyzeur]

Sanderson for Trouba.

Stop drinking fro breakfast

 

[Senator Stanley]

Well rutger went 14 and has really only improved his stock since the draft. Is there someone in this draft who we see on the same level?

I don't see McGroarty as having the same kind of upside as the guys we're looking at in the top 8-9 of this class, and I'd only want to trade down if we think one of those top guys will still be at 9 or 12 or wherever we're trading back to.

So no, I don't see 7OA, flipped or otherwise, being in play for McGroarty. I'm sticking with the upside of a top guy in this draft class.

 

[ijif]

Rutger is a high character player. Situation is not nearly as clear cut as youre saying

I am not super familiar with the situation, so maybe you can help me out, but it kinda seems that clear cut.

He wants out because they won’t lock in a spot for him. Does that mean he is a bad person? No. Do I like that mentality? No.

 

[DueDiligence]

Sanderson for Trouba.

That would be crazy on Ottawa's part to do.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I am not super familiar with the situation, so maybe you can help me out, but it kinda seems that clear cut.

He wants out because they won’t lock in a spot for him. Does that mean he is a bad person? No. Do I like that mentality? No.

That demand comes from him not trusting how Winnipeg has integrated young players. I.e “you jerk around a lot of your young players and I need to know that wont happen to me”. He is starting from a position of a lack of faith in the Jets model. Put him in Ottawa and I seriously doubt he draws that line in the sand.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

That demand comes from him not trusting how Winnipeg has integrated young players. I.e “you jerk around a lot of your young players and I need to know that wont happen to me”. He is starting from a position of a lack of faith in the Jets model. Put him in Ottawa and I seriously doubt he draws that line in the sand.

Which young players got jerked around? Perfetti followed a very standard path. He just isn’t THAT good

 

[Laphroaig]

That demand comes from him not trusting how Winnipeg has integrated young players. I.e “you jerk around a lot of your young players and I need to know that wont happen to me”. He is starting from a position of a lack of faith in the Jets model. Put him in Ottawa and I seriously doubt he draws that line in the sand.

I believe Rutger just wants to move to another organization. The Winnipeg player development model may be a factor but I believe the larger reason is that it's Winnipeg. I think he's just being diplomatic in not saying that.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Attaching a pick to trade Joseph is asinine. They need another player like Joseph. The only one who has reported the sens are shopping Joseph is Garrioch. Who gets absolutely nothing from the sens org. He's just throwing darts. Look how wrong he was about ullmark. Guys washed.

What about Chychrun for Laughton and one of Phillys second rounders this year or next? All should be in the top 40.

Hearing there is also interest from Chicago in Chychrun. Not sure what a deal with them looks like though. They don't really have anything the sens want except picks and they are mid rebuild. Why would they trade picks when they can sign him for free next year. Not like Dorion is the GM.

They have Connor Murphy who would be the perfect pick-up, but I don't think he's available and he has a 10-team NTC.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Jets pretty much in a box where they have to move him. So its possible a bargain on him could be had.

I mean there are bargains but then there are BARGAINS. We don’t have much left to sell off.

Do they have space for chychrun? Will chychrun sign with them? I wouldn’t. Chychrun with an extensions for McGroarty and a small pick I could see.

But they’re not taking our seconds. Or Joseph and a second. Or even two seconds. Someone else will outbid us at that

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

That would be crazy on Ottawa's part to do.