Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[DJB]

Staios will find a way to unload Forsberg without taking cap back, and we'll sign a bargain bin goalie to be Ullmark's back up

Sens brass had Alfie and Forsberg contact Ullmark about playing in Ottawa. Ullmark also mentioned familiarity with Forsberg as both were teammates a decade ago

I don’t think Forsberg is going anywhere

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Sens brass had Alfie and Forsberg contact Ullmark about playing in Ottawa. Ullmark also mentioned familiarity with Forsberg as both were teammates a decade ago

I don’t think Forsberg is going anywhere

I also thought we would dump Forsberg for a late pick until the same info you cited came out.

It seems that they will keep them as a tandem.

Anyone else hearing talk of Weegar?

I think there were some rumours via Pagnotta at the deadline, but I don't recall anything so far this offseason.

Chychrun has been tied to Calgary.

 

[HSF]

Joseph out. Tanev at 6 x 4.25 fully front loaded. Bridge Pinto.

Tanev is not getting 6 years

 

[Dionysus]

Curious to see what the Sens do for 4th line center. Grieg could slot in, bit would be better served playing with more skilled players I think.

Ostapchuk could win the spot out of camp. Chartier could get some reps.

Doesn't seem to be a lot of quality veteran 4th line center types in this UFA class. Kevin Stenlund, Sam Carrick possibly.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Tanev is not getting 6 years

Someone is going to offer it.

 

[HSF]

Someone is going to offer it.

to take him to 41? hell nah

 

[Gil Gunderson]

to take him to 41? hell nah

It will be front-loaded and he will retire or go on LTIR before that. Have you been paying attention for the last 10 years?

 

[HSF]

It will be front-loaded and he will retire or go on LTIR before that. Have you been paying attention for the last 10 years?

I don't think you have cause no one is giving a defensive defensemen 6 years when he turns 35 in Dec.

 

[GCK]

Joseph out. Tanev at 6 x 4.25 fully front loaded. Bridge Pinto.

Larsson + B Tanev = Chychrun + Joseph.

2 year bridge for Pinto is 3M.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Larsson + B Tanev = Chychrun + Joseph.

2 year bridge for Pinto is 3M.

Larsson isn't that good.

 

[bicboi64]

Larsson isn't that good.

He'd be our 2nd best RD, and is good enough for us to have a D Core that isn't as garbage as it has been the last 5 years

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Tanev at 6-7 years isn't that crazy. Hear me out.

The NHL has rules about front-loading contracts with players who are 35+ years old. Luckily for us, Tanev is 34.

Look at the following contract, which is apparently compliant.

• Tanev expects to get a 5.5M x 2Y type contract from other teams.
• We offer him 11M guaranteed in the first two years through signing bonuses.
• We offer him a 7 year NMC (lol).
• We are upfront with him that we don't expect him to still play out the entire contract, and he will probably be bought out or end up on LTIR at one point.
• He doesn't care, because he is guaranteed the same amount of money over the first two seasons as he would get elsewhere, and if he signs 2 years with a different team he may not be in a position to get another contract at the age of 36.
• Tanev looks at it like in a worst case scenario where he is bought out in year 3 when his guaranteed signing bonuses end, he walks away with 16M+ total from what effectively was a 2 year contract. If he is bought out in year 4, it works out to being 19M+ for 3 years. Either way, those numbers are more than he will get from anybody else on a 2-3 year contract.
• Sens do it to circumvent the salary cap and get Tanev at under 4M instead of over 6M.

Obviously, the above would NEVER happen, but with someone bringing up a 6 year contract for a 34 year old, it's an interesting thought exercise to see if it makes sense for both parties. Sens wouldn't do it because they would essentially be permitting 6-8 years of dead cap, or possibly setting themselves up to pay an LTIRetired player (he may not be insured since he won't be among our top paid players in this scenario).

 

[Blotto71]

Larsson isn't that good.

W.T.F.

 

[milkbag]

This mean we're moving either Meri or Soog Knight?

 

[Hale The Villain]

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This mean we're moving either Meri or Soog Knight?

Nah he's ECHL bound

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Nah he's ECHL bound

What does a one-way AHL contract entail?

Trading Merilainen would be such a dumb thing to do.

 

[milkbag]

Nah he's ECHL bound

Does a 1 way AHL contract mean he can move between levels like that too? I'm admittedly pretty unclear about minor league exclusive contracts

 

[Ouroboros]

What does a one-way AHL contract entail?

Trading Merilainen would be such a dumb thing to do.

You get your AHL salary even in the ECHL. A guy like Simpson probably signed for the AHL minimum [about 53k] so he'd still get that even when demoted.

Players in the ECHL on a two-way can be paid as little as 520 dollars a week.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Merilainen is on his ELC. That means the Senators can assign him to the ECHL.

We're likely looking at something like this.

NHL
Ullmark
Forsberg

AHL
Sogaard
Simpson

ECHL
Merilainen

The implication of this move might mean they aren't going to qualify Mandolese, who aside from being notorious for having one of the greatest debuts for a goalie prospect in Senators history, likely isn't projected to ever make the NHL and cannot be assigned to the ECHL without his consent.

Or, it could be that Simpson is a project/depth for the AHL team and will be their third goalie.

 

[bicboi64]

Sens brass had Alfie and Forsberg contact Ullmark about playing in Ottawa. Ullmark also mentioned familiarity with Forsberg as both were teammates a decade ago

I don’t think Forsberg is going anywhere

Just read into it even more. That's awesome that Forsberg was involved.

Looks like Joseph's getting moved, can't think of another way to make capspace unless someone sucker takes Norris

 

[PlayOn]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806405250074775775

Looks like the move down was to get rid of Korpi

 

[Emerica]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806405250074775775

Looks like the move down was to get rid of Korpi

Makes sense why Friedman said he doesn’t think this rumored deal with Philly was still in the cards.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Tanev is not getting 6 years

No which is why maybe we be the team to offer it

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806405250074775775

Looks like the move down was to get rid of Korpi

Wonder if we were getting any player back or if it was just for 12

 

[guyzeur]

It will be front-loaded and he will retire or go on LTIR before that. Have you been paying attention for the last 10 years?

And Bettman has been watching us.

 

[Skid]

Larsson isn't that good.

Neither is Joseph. I’d do that trade in a heartbeat