Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[BondraTime]

Have absolutely no desire to trade for McGroaty, barring an underpayment

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Which young players got jerked around? Perfetti followed a very standard path. He just isn’t THAT good

Which young players got jerked around? Perfetti followed a very standard path. He just isn’t THAT good

Jerked around is a bit of hyperbole, but Heinola showed promise and was not given much chance until this year, Lambert probably deserved more than 1 game, Vesalainen bounced around a lot, Kovacevic and Chisholm never got much of a crack… they just havent really developed a player well since, idk, Laine? Connor? I guess you could count Samberg as a modest success.

Its tough to say if they handled those situationa poorly or if they just havent yielded positive results due to factors beyond their control, but it seems like that is McGroarty’s perception of things

Have absolutely no desire to trade for McGroaty, barring an underpayment

Why is that? See him more as a lower-middle of the lineup guy? And what would he a palatable price for you?

 

[LeProspector]

Have absolutely no desire to trade for McGroaty, barring an underpayment

Why not? He’s the type of player Ottawa wants to add to their lineup, he’s two years further down the line than any prospect Ottawa gets at the draft so he can make an immediate impact.

 

[bicboi64]

Sanderson for Trouba.

Are we also adding a draft pick or two?

 

[bicboi64]

Kraken need some offense from their D, and they have tons of capspace.

Trade Chychrun to them for Larsson, Tanev, and their 2nd next year that becomes a 1st if Larsson extends with Ottawa. We get a legit top 4RD, we get BTanev who will convince CTanev to come to Ottawa for a cheap price, and we start planning the damn parade.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Kraken need some offense from their D, and they have tons of capspace.

Trade Chychrun to them for Larsson, Tanev, and their 2nd next year that becomes a 1st if Larsson extends with Ottawa. We get a legit top 4RD, we get BTanev who will convince CTanev to come to Ottawa for a cheap price, and we start planning the damn parade.

We can't fit in Larsson and both Tanevs.

 

[GCK]

We can't fit in Larsson and both Tanevs.

Yes we can

 

[Micklebot]

Kraken need some offense from their D, and they have tons of capspace.

Trade Chychrun to them for Larsson, Tanev, and their 2nd next year that becomes a 1st if Larsson extends with Ottawa. We get a legit top 4RD, we get BTanev who will convince CTanev to come to Ottawa for a cheap price, and we start planning the damn parade.

That's a lot coming back, and I don't think you can have conditional picks based on extensions anymore, that got eliminated in 2020 I think

 

[bicboi64]

That's a lot coming back, and I don't think you can have conditional picks based on extensions anymore, that got eliminated in 2020 I think

fine, we'll settle for their 1st (top 10 protected if they really push for it)

 

[Micklebot]

Yes we can

Are you sure?

I'm pretty sure that puts us over unless you're replacing Joseph, Kelly with league min deal, and bridging Pinto, even then it would be tight.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Never mind the fact that if we sign Chris Tanev, it's going to be because we're offering him a lot more than Toronto/Dallas and the 10 other teams who want him. He's not coming here cheap.

 

[Senscore]

Never mind the fact that if we sign Chris Tanev, it's going to be because we're offering him a lot more than Toronto/Dallas and the 10 other teams who want him. He's not coming here cheap.

Might not be the worst thing if the Leafs sign him.

He seems primed to be the next aging defensive defenseman they'd throw money at only to drop off a cliff in terms of play, like Muzzin or Brodie.

Would take up a decent chunk of cap space.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Might not be the worst thing if the Leafs sign him.

He seems primed to be the next aging defensive defenseman they'd throw money at only to drop off a cliff in terms of play, like Muzzin or Brodie.

Would take up a decent chunk of cap space.

For the most part those were two very good acquisitions. Muzzin was good until he LTIR'd and Brodie was really good for most of his contract. Tanev still probably has at least 2 more years of being an elite defensive d-man (when the Leafs need it most).

 

[stempniaksen]

The talk from Mike Johnston on the radio today was that Tanev might get a 5 or 6 year deal and as much as I'd love him in Ottawa I want no part of it. I'd sell myself on it quick if he came here for that long but personally I feel like 3 years is the sweet spot. As long as there's a plan to move moneyout I'd feel better throwing an Orlov type deal at him for $7 x 2 than going 5+ years.

A name I'm really selling myself on is Farabee, seems something is up in Philadelphia with him and Torts and he really rebounded last season. I wonder if Joseph + Boucher ++ would get the needle moving. He'd be a real nice fit in the top-six which would allow Greig to anchor the 3rd line, whether that ends up being at LW or C.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Kraken need some offense from their D, and they have tons of capspace.

Trade Chychrun to them for Larsson, Tanev, and their 2nd next year that becomes a 1st if Larsson extends with Ottawa. We get a legit top 4RD, we get BTanev who will convince CTanev to come to Ottawa for a cheap price, and we start planning the damn parade.

Chychrun isn't worth that much more than Larsson.

 

[bicboi64]

Are you sure?

I'm pretty sure that puts us over unless you're replacing Joseph, Kelly with league min deal, and bridging Pinto, even then it would be tight.

Staios will find a way to unload Forsberg without taking cap back, and we'll sign a bargain bin goalie to be Ullmark's back up

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The talk from Mike Johnston on the radio today was that Tanev might get a 5 or 6 year deal and as much as I'd love him in Ottawa I want no part of it. I'd sell myself on it quick if he came here for that long but personally I feel like 3 years is the sweet spot. As long as there's a plan to move moneyout I'd feel better throwing an Orlov type deal at him for $7 x 2 than going 5+ years.

A name I'm really selling myself on is Farabee, seems something is up in Philadelphia with him and Torts and he really rebounded last season. I wonder if Joseph + Boucher ++ would get the needle moving. He'd be a real nice fit in the top-six which would allow Greig to anchor the 3rd line, whether that ends up being at LW or C.

Most teams that offer him that amount know there's a high chance he retires to gets LTIR'd before those 6 years are done. It will be a front-loaded contract.

 

[guyzeur]

Staios will find a way to unload Forsberg without taking cap back, and we'll sign a bargain bin goalie to be Ullmark's back up

did you listen to Ullmark's interview?

 

[GCK]

Are you sure?

I'm pretty sure that puts us over unless you're replacing Joseph, Kelly with league min deal, and bridging Pinto, even then it would be tight.

Joseph out. Tanev at 6 x 4.25 fully front loaded. Bridge Pinto.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Staios will find a way to unload Forsberg without taking cap back, and we'll sign a bargain bin goalie to be Ullmark's back up

Sure didn't sound like that's the plan with Ullmark's interview, but not out of the question. He seemed settled on the fact they would be the tandem to me and made me think Staios may have assured him of that. Also sounded like Ullmark expects to be a clear #1, so having a guy like Forsberg that is a clear backup is probably ideal.

 

[Micklebot]

Joseph out. Tanev at 6 x 4.25 fully front loaded. Bridge Pinto.

That still means you need a lot of league min deals to make it work (5 by my count if you're going to have a 21 man roster)

 

[Masked]

Anyone else hearing talk of Weegar?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Anyone else hearing talk of Weegar?

In my Senators day dreams I do. Perfect addition imo, but also assume it would cost a ton.

 

[xVolchenkov]

Have absolutely no desire to trade for McGroaty, barring an underpayment

I would trade Chychrun for him if were able to sign Matt Roy.

EDIT - Signing Roy, trading for Ullmark (and unloading Korpi), while adding McGroarty and whoever we draft at 7 to our prospect pool would make me feel a hell of a lot better than I did about this team a few weeks ago.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Anyone else hearing talk of Weegar?

How is Weegar on the right side? I know he's a righty but his best seasons have all come with him playing on the left side.