Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I honestly don't find the buyout that bad, 8 years is a bit rought, but 1.3 on average is manageable.

I'd certainly do that before pay the price to dump him. Alternatively retain to make the contract potentially movable

I agree. With the cap rising, I'd do it over paying this potential cost. I might feel differently if they were busting at the seams with assets, but it's the wrong time for the team to be paying out the ass for a problem to disappear.

I was all aboard that train until the SS interview where he indicated no buyouts likely. I'm hoping they will seriously consider it, because it really does seem tenable. Or that Campbell swap and buyout option if Edm were on board.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Problem with Markstrom is at 35 next season, you aren't getting a top goalie for long, he's got maybe 3 more good seasons left, and it's not like he's a vezina level goalie. A late first is historically the type of return he should get, maybe less, but it's a seller's market so he could get a bit of a premium.

To me, Ulmark and Saros are the ideal targets, though they probably won't accept Korpisalo in a deal.

I’m not advocating for Markstrom.

I wouldn’t give up these prices for ANY goalie

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Ceci's value is going down. He should cost us less to acquire.

I honestly don't find the buyout that bad, 8 years is a bit rought, but 1.3 on average is manageable.

I'd certainly do that before pay the price to dump him. Alternatively retain to make the contract potentially movable

His buyout is not bad if we need the short term cap space, I would buy him out before giving up a 1st to dump him.

With that said, his buyout doesn't actually save very much over the lifetime of the contract compared to just burying him. I think the difference is a few hundred thousand dollars in cap total. So strategically, it doesn't make sense to buy him out unless absolutely necessary. There is more control with burying him.

 

[Micklebot]

Ceci's value is going down. He should cost us less to acquire.



His buyout is not bad if we need the short term cap space, I would buy him out before giving up a 1st to dump him.

With that said, his buyout doesn't actually save very much over the lifetime of the contract compared to just burying him. I think the difference is a few hundred thousand dollars in cap total. So strategically, it doesn't make sense to buy him out unless absolutely necessary. There is more control with burying him.

My preference would be retention, ideally I'd like for the player to get the opportunity to get his career back on track, burryinng him is bad mojo...

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[frightenedinmatenum2]

My preference would be retention, ideally I'd like for the player to get the opportunity to get his career back on track, burryinng him is bad mojo...

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Sending a player to the AHL doesn't mean they don't give him a fair shot in training camp, or let him back in the NHL if he rehabs his career and becomes one of their best 2 options in net.

If we could trade him somewhere half retained, it would be something to consider because it would free up 2M. But you have to consider that if they don't want his buyout cap hit on the boks for 8 seasons, retention puts them in a position where they could end up having his cap on the books for 7 seasons if he doesn't bounce back with his new team (retention this year, 6 year buyout starting next year).

The best option is simply to bury him, but it seems like we're in a scenario where they don't want to buy him out but they also have to move him to gain the cap flexibility to add a new goalie. Almost like Dorion last year with Zaitsev and a top four defenseman.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Why are we talking about Ceci?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

 

[dumbdick]

Andlauer should make an offer for Ales Stezka. 2015-drafted 6'4 czech goalie who got signed by the kraken last year but never got a game.

.914 in the AHL after solid numbers in the czech league.

UFA this summer. Seems to be on an upswing.

 

[scallionjj11]

Sorry for the self-quote but here are some guys that i think we could target in this category. These are the guys with the best save % among players that are getting limited games and a few stud prospects in the AHL.

Annunen or Francouz from Avs
Tarasov from CBJ
Spencer Knight from FLA
Jiri Patera from VGK
Ales Stezka from the Wild
Brandon Bussi from Boston

BInnington or Levi/UPL could be added here too but they'd cost quite a bit more.

He retired no?

 

[dumbdick]

He retired no?

Did he? The way i made this list was to pull guys with high sv% over the past 3 years with limited games. Trying to identify solid backups and guys blocked in their orgs. I guess i didnt look closely enough to exclude guys who aren't still active.

 

[scallionjj11]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

Don't see Korpi involved in any trade with a goalie coming back

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

Why would Ottawa negotiate the 7th pick through Random twitter accounts.

They could just call Calgary and say “hey we’re taking tij at 7. If you want him here’s the price.

We likely just want iginla

 

[bicboi64]

I honestly don't find the buyout that bad, 8 years is a bit rought, but 1.3 on average is manageable.

I'd certainly do that before pay the price to dump him. Alternatively retain to make the contract potentially movable

This legit feels like the best way to go. Why risk bringing him back in any capacity and sinking team morale or taking on another bad contract while hoping a player like Campbell bounces back as well.

 

[HSF]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

This is a pretty good deal for ottawa if they know that someone they like is avaliable at 9

 

[HoweHullOrr]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

I think people brains are overrheating in an attempt to move Korpisalo.

If Calgary wants to move Markstrom, they could so in a separate deal and they'd get something back from the trade. You can argue that it won’t be a spectacular asset that gets returned to Calgary, and that’s fine. However, there’s a shortage of goalies available and several teams needing them, plus they don’t need to take on the boat anchor Korpisalo contract. IF they want to grab Iginla in the draft, then they offer their 9th overall and another pick (or something else to Ottawa). For all we know, Calgary may have their eye on different prospects as well and not just Iginla.

I’m just guessing like all others in here, and I’m not saying what has been proposed is impossible. But all I’m really saying is that Calgary has other alternatives and that all roads do not lead to Ottawa, especially with Korpisalo as part of the trade bundle. I think people are working overtime here connecting the dots between Ottawa and Calgary.

 

[Micklebot]

It's going to be 7th+39th+Korpisalo (@ 3M) for 9th+Markstrom or something absurd like that. They will leverage the need for Calgary to get Iginla to get a massive discount on a Korpisalo for Markstrom swap. The leaks about Ottawa "liking" Tij Iginla are already coming and we were talking about them leveraging Tij against Calgary in this thread two weeks ago. This is just like when HFBoards almost got Brady Tkachuk traded by talking about it.

I can't see us doing this, but given I have about a dozen guys I could see us picking that I'd be happy with at 7 I'd do it no questions asked.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Why would Ottawa negotiate the 7th pick through Random twitter accounts.

They could just call Calgary and say “hey we’re taking tij at 7. If you want him here’s the price.

We likely just want iginla

Fake Twitter leaks are the new golf course.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We’re gonna buy out Korpi. The price to move him is so much more devastating than 1.3 mil

 

[OttawaSenators11]

We’re gonna buy out Korpi. The price to move him is so much more devastating than 1.3 mil

If They don’t buy him out if consider Brady likely gone next year

Korpisalo isn’t good he’s rarely been good so why show patience? We need action with regards to him next year it’s critical that he’s not on our roster!

A nickel shouldn’t hold up a dollar!!

 

[DrEasy]

A Korpse is meant to be buried... in the AHL.

 

[scallionjj11]

I think Korpi gets bought out IF we obtain a goalie.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think Korpi gets bought out IF we obtain a goalie.

It’s very clear that staios has zero intention iof having korpisalo on the roster next year and every intention of having a new goalie

 

[Blotto71]

Ceci's value is going down. He should cost us less to acquire.

But WHY?! do the Sens want to aquire him???

 

[Golden_Jet]

We’re gonna buy out Korpi. The price to move him is so much more devastating than 1.3 mil

Don’t see the buyout happening,
Prefer to retain 1.3 million for 4 years, making his salary 2.7,
Then paying that for 8 years.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Don’t see the buyout happening,
Prefer to retain 1.3 million for 4 years, making his salary 2.7,
Then paying that for 8 years.

That's assuming anyone would take him for 2.7 though. That's far from a certainty and imo is highly unlikely. What other lumps are taken to get there? Bad 2.7 contract coming back?