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For Chychrun, I just want a big defensive rd and a third liner good on 200ft

Last year, apparently Phoenix GM just wants pickMaybe Staios would like some player that team have to offer
 
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I wonder if Boston would do a deal based around Chychrun for Carlo and Geekie, there'd have to be a bit more to it for cap reasons and to balance the value.
 
If we're getting a RD back in the trade, he's not going to be a good one.

Can't see any non-playoff teams trading for Chych, and if they are I don't see a 1st outside of another teams like the Hronek trade last year, on the table, and definitely can't see any playoff teams giving up meaningful NHL players in season.
Some people want to move Chabot and keep Chychrun. The situation seems to have changed to we have to keep Chabot because Chychrun might not want to stay. If the management group had identified Chabot as a player to move and Chyrun to stay as well, how do think they would deal with that? Does it get delt with as two seperate things? Chabot identified as a player to move gets moved before the draft and then Chychrun at the next trade dead line? My thought is if a player isn't part of the long term plans, you don't just keep him because a different player has chosen to go. You move them both.
 
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Some people want to move Chabot and keep Chychrun. The situation seems to have changed to we have to keep Chabot because Chychrun might not want to stay. If the management group had identified Chabot as a player to move and Chyrun to stay as well, how do think they would deal with that? Does it get delt with as two seperate things? Chabot identified as a player to move gets moved before the draft and then Chychrun at the next trade dead line? My thought is if a player isn't part of the long term plans, you don't just keep him because a different player has chosen to go. You move them both.
Management is much higher on Chabot, for better or worse, and Chychrun is making the decision very easy. I've heard how high on Chabot Ottawa was for the past 8 or so years, I hadn't heard any differently since new management came in, and this just supports that, Martian very clearly has insights.

 
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Management is much higher on Chabot, for better or worse, and Chychrun is making the decision very easy. I've heard how high on Chabot Ottawa was for the past 8 or so years, I hadn't heard any differently since new management came in, and this just supports that, Martin very clearly has insights.


With re to Staios scouting Chychrun, he was the opposite of what Edm needed (not that different than our situation I suppose) but now that we have him, it's a bit different
 
Management is much higher on Chabot, for better or worse, and Chychrun is making the decision very easy.
Ok. So it's not even a thing then. I was hoping you would break down the different scenarios that are available to the team. But you just "Nope. Nothing to see here." Darn it. Another note, I'm not too sure I trust the rumours and rumblings about Senators stuff these days. The org has clamped down on info. I remember Andlauer saying he wasn't impressed with leaks at one of his press conferences. I would guess that there is less noise going forward too as more of their people are brought in. Not saying you aren't right, I'm just cautious.
 
Ok. So it's not even a thing then. I was hoping you would break down the different scenarios that are available to the team. But you just "Nope. Nothing to see here." Darn it. Another note, I'm not too sure I trust the rumours and rumblings about Senators stuff these days. The org has clamped down on info. I remember Andlauer saying he wasn't impressed with leaks at one of his press conferences. I would guess that there is less noise going forward too as more of their people are brought in. Not saying you aren't right, I'm just cautious.
If Chychrun is going to leave, there's no other scenario unfortunately.

They could look to move Chabot at the draft if they want, but for the time being Chychrun is the only possible move to be made, which I don't think is a difficult decision for the management group with all known information.

With re to Staios scouting Chychrun, he was the opposite of what Edm needed (not that different than our situation I suppose) but now that we have him, it's a bit different
Absolutely, I was more pointing out the organization is higher on Chabot part.
 
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If Chychrun is moved, we have the same situation we've faced before with Sanderson, Chabot and Zub as the nucleus. Staois will have a lot of work to do. They desperately need a RD. Chabot needs to get his game back.
 
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Didn't they say that the Jets were expressing interest in Chychrun last night?

I wonder if there's a good prospect we could get from them?

Here's some info on their prospects. Barlow, Lucius, McGroarty, etc.


He’d certainly fit in nicely in our middle six.
 
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Some people want to move Chabot and keep Chychrun. The situation seems to have changed to we have to keep Chabot because Chychrun might not want to stay. If the management group had identified Chabot as a player to move and Chyrun to stay as well, how do think they would deal with that? Does it get delt with as two seperate things? Chabot identified as a player to move gets moved before the draft and then Chychrun at the next trade dead line? My thought is if a player isn't part of the long term plans, you don't just keep him because a different player has chosen to go. You move them both.
I don’t think it’d be smart to move them both. We have to change about half our defensive core as it is, even if Chabot hasn’t lived up to his contract, he’s better than most of what we have.

With the coaching changes and a better overall group back there assuming they can properly upgrade, you just have to hope Chabot’s game comes together. If it doesn’t, then maybe you can revisit it in a year or two.
 
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He’d certainly fit in nicely in our middle six.

Yes, I had a similar thought.

They need to leverage the Chychrun situation to get something of value they can plug in to the roster. Better yet if it's a ELC that's ready for duty.
 
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Didn't they say that the Jets were expressing interest in Chychrun last night?

I wonder if there's a good prospect we could get from them?

Here's some info on their prospects. Barlow, Lucius, McGroarty, etc.

Lambert is the guy to grab from Winnipeg. He is having a great year in the AHL and proving his precipitous fall at the 2022 draft will have many scouting departments regretting that evaluation. Lucius is far too injury prone and Barlow has regressed this year.
 
Not sure about Lambert hitting his upside but if he can be useful in a top 9 role his speed is an element we have in short supply.
Has anyone seen enough of him to know if he can be a useful player if 35-40pts is his ceiling?
 
Clearly Staios wants to reconfigure the D and I think most of us have to agree. Forcing lefties to play the right side didn't work.
 
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Lambert is the guy to grab from Winnipeg. He is having a great year in the AHL and proving his precipitous fall at the 2022 draft will have many scouting departments regretting that evaluation. Lucius is far too injury prone and Barlow has regressed this year.
The knock against Lambert seems to be his inconsistency. I am not an expert in this area though and I don't follow AHL/prospects enough to have a lot of detail on various players. And, anything I say is based on what I am able to read and may not be up-to-date. I remember hearing about him around his draft. Does he that NHL level 200 ft game? That would help him gain trust from coaches and assimilate into the NHL.

It would be good to get a good prospect out of a Chychrun trade. If we can plug in a good, young player on a ELC contract, I'd think that would help considerably.
 
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Clearly Staios wants to reconfigure the D and I think most of us have to agree. Forcing lefties to play the right side didn't work.
This year, there's been 84 right-shot defensemen to play at least 25 games, which doesn't even factor in quality of play. It's only reflective of having that handedness play in that position. I don't think it's a matter of preference, it's literal scarcity. There's not even enough there to have 3 per team and, again, that doesn't even indicate quality of play.
 
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This year, there's been 84 right-shot defensemen to play at least 25 games, which doesn't even factor in quality of play. It's only reflective of having that handedness play in that position. I don't think it's a matter of preference, it's literal scarcity. There's not even enough there to have 3 per team and, again, that doesn't even indicate quality of play.
Perhaps teams focus on their top 4 for that and let the bottom pairing do the 2 lefties? I have no idea personally, but let's just say that chabot and Chychrun would benefit from playing their natural side and with a guy like zub all the time - and with Sanderson the Great there it's not gonna happen.
 
Ok. So it's not even a thing then. I was hoping you would break down the different scenarios that are available to the team. But you just "Nope. Nothing to see here." Darn it. Another note, I'm not too sure I trust the rumours and rumblings about Senators stuff these days. The org has clamped down on info. I remember Andlauer saying he wasn't impressed with leaks at one of his press conferences. I would guess that there is less noise going forward too as more of their people are brought in. Not saying you aren't right, I'm just cautious.
Not because Andlauer was not happy with leak that can stop Martien the best Sens insider to leak info
 
Clearly Staios wants to reconfigure the D and I think most of us have to agree. Forcing lefties to play the right side didn't work.
I would sign him trade brannstrom. One of those LDs on every pairing and do some strong scouting to find cost effective RDs. With chabot and chychrun you don’t need world beaters. You need solid guys that are better than JBD and Hamonic.
Lyubushkin with one.

And let’s say Walker with the other? Chychrun can still see PP time and Pk time
Maybe Matt Roy will have to take a pay cut.

Or dumba. I would like to see dumba play on a pairing where he doesn’t have to be the guy. He can just worry about retrieving and punishing forwards.

Sanderson Zub
Chabot lyubushkin
Chychrun Dumba.
Garrioch also said sens want to talk contract with chychrun. So this isn’t them trying to ship him out by any means necessary
 
Didn't they say that the Jets were expressing interest in Chychrun last night?

I wonder if there's a good prospect we could get from them?

Here's some info on their prospects: Barlow, Lucius, McGroarty, etc.

I posted a possible return a few posts back of Chychrun for Rutger McGroarty, Dmitri Rashevsky and Logan Stanley. We would get a big and physical depth d with some untapped upside, a prospect that fits the exact kind of player Staios is looking for, and an intriguing Russian prospect who is making an impact in the KHL.


 
I wonder if Boston would do a deal based around Chychrun for Carlo and Geekie, there'd have to be a bit more to it for cap reasons and to balance the value.
Isn’t geekie another center? If not yeah I think he’d be a good fit.

I posted a possible return a few posts back of Chychrun for Rutger McGroarty, Dmitri Rashevsky and Logan Stanley. We would get a big and physical depth d with some untapped upside, a prospect that fits the exact kind of player Staios is looking for, and an intriguing Russian prospect who is making an impact in the KHL.



prospects like McGroarty aren’t usually traded for vets. Teams are very wary of trading those types. Especially acted recent gold.
 
I throw $4.5-5 million at Roy in the offseason and get him here long term. Two solid stay at home D like Roy and Zub make this roster so much better. Heck bring back DeMelo as well.

Trade Chychrun at half retained to LA (who is in cap hell with their buy outs) to get Roy and extend him. Or see if Vegas will give us Theodore for Chychrun, they always love making a splash.
 
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