GDT: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 2

[BondraTime]

MacEwan on the 4th line is perfectly fine, plays hard and will hit everything.

I don't think it was needed, to be fair, and don't think we should ever be signing 4th line guys in UFA to term, but he's a perfectly fine guy for the 4th line and pressbox at 750k

 

[2CHAINZ]

Because they play soft and scared.

So adding a 4th line plug is going to make Matthews and gang stop playing soft? Why not tell Matthews and gang to stop playing soft and not waste money and a roster spot on a plug?

 

[guyzeur]

I only speak for myself, but personally, I would prefer it if they signed good players to play on the team.

That you do a lot

 

[Senscore]

He’s not a good fighter, and doesn’t even like the role.

Far better fighter than MacEwen. Watson is better than MacEwen. Watson and Kastelic also can provide help in other areas.

 

[Golden_Jet]

So adding a 4th line plug is going to make Matthews and gang stop playing soft? Why not tell Matthews and gang to stop playing soft and not waste money and a roster spot on a plug?

Because it hasn’t worked in 7 years, could always keep banging your head against the wall and hope they change.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Albeit a poor one.

How is it a poor example of exploiting a teams weakness if you find one?

Because it hasn’t worked in 7 years, could always keep banging your head against the wall and hope they change.

If Matthews and Co. are being bullied by the top lines of other teams, how does 4th liner Reaves and his 6 minutes of ice time help? Is Keefe going to put Reaves out against other teams top lines so the Leafs can get scored on? They had Simmons why were they soft with Simmonds on the bench?

 

[swiftwin]

Yeah seeing people say these signing are going to prevent Brady from “having” to fight is never not going to be funny. Like he is forced to do it and doesn’t enjoy backing up his teammates. Its part of his game to play on the edge and it always will be.

If we wanted to have a cutesy ballerina as captain that doesn’t get his hands dirty, we probably shouldn’t have drafted the guy who was quite literally known for this coming out.

Going back to MacEwen, put me in the camp saying there is zero reason to give waiver fodder more than one year deals, same with Del Zotto a few years ago but whatever. Just put him in the minors and forget about him if anything. If meathead DJ plays him or Imama regularly then we obviously have a problem

There's nothing wrong with Brady fighting.

I just don't want him fighting players like Reaves, Xhekaj, Lucic, etc. which are recent additions to our division. I also don't think it's fair to dump all of that on a kid like Kastelic who has potential to be a decent 3rd liner at some point in the future.

 

[2CHAINZ]

That you do a lot

I don't even know what you are trying to say.

 

[Mingus Dew]

There's nothing wrong with Brady fighting.

I just don't want him fighting players like Reaves, Xhekaj, Lucic, etc. which are recent additions to our division. I also don't think it's fair to dump all of that on a kid like Kastelic who has potential to be a decent 3rd liner at some point in the future.

He hasn't really fought those heavyweight guys in the past though. Brady fights spur of the moment because he wants to and he's always going to do that. It doesn't matter who we sign, and if we are signing bad players to term to stop our captain from taking majors then quite frankly we've lost the plot.

 

[2CHAINZ]

There's nothing wrong with Brady fighting.

I just don't want him fighting players like Reaves, Xhekaj, Lucic, etc. which are recent additions to our division. I also don't think it's fair to dump all of that on a kid like Kastelic who has potential to be a decent 3rd liner at some point in the future.

Brady didn't fight any of those types of guys last season

 

[swiftwin]

Brady didn't fight any of those types of guys last season

Exactly, because Watson was around to take on (and lose) these fights.

Now we need someone else in his place.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Exactly, because Watson was around to take on (and lose) these fights.

Now we need someone else in his place.

Or we could just decline the offer to fight a plug for no reason.

 

[swiftwin]

Or we could just decline the offer to fight a plug for no reason.

But what if there is a reason? Then what?

 

[DaveMatthew]

Or we could just decline the offer to fight a plug for no reason.

I don't think you get how hockey players, or teams, are wired.

Everybody wants a Matt Carkner on their team, even if they're only there to fight "plugs".

 

[OttawaSenators11]

But what if there is a reason? Then what?

Mark Kastelic and if things escalate call
Up Boko for the next game.

I don't think you get how hockey players, or teams, are wired.

Everybody wants a Matt Carkner on their team, even if they're only there to fight "plugs".

I think we are already plenty tough and need secondary scoring big time instead we are signing the opposite type players to accomplish that so far

 

[DaveMatthew]

Mark Kastelic and if things escalate call
Up Boko for the next game.


I think we are already plenty tough already and need secondary scoring big time instead we are signing the opposite players to accomplish that so far

Signing MacEwen for 775k does not in any way prevent us from getting "secondary scoring". You're not getting "secondary scoring" for that amount. You're getting Dylan Gambrell.

I'd much rather have MacEwen.

The return, and cap space opened up, from Debrincat will need to get us secondary scoring. Along with the continued development of Pinto and Greig, and hopefully, a rebound year from Joseph.

 

[2CHAINZ]

I don't think you get how hockey players, or teams, are wired.

Everybody wants a Matt Carkner on their team, even if they're only there to fight "plugs".

If you are telling me Zac will do what Carkner did to the Rangers if someone touches Stutzle, then sure, I like him already. But every time something like Cooke or Dell happens, nothing comes of it. Our guy goes up to them and asks to fight; they decline, and that's it. So I don't really see the need for a 4th line enforcer unless they can actually play hockey.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Signing MacEwen for 775k doesn't not in any way prevent us from getting "secondary scoring". You're not getting "secondary scoring" for that amount. You're getting Dylan Gambrell.

I'd much rather have MacEwen.

The return, and cap space opened up, from Debrincat will need to get us secondary scoring.

I rather not waste a roster spot on someone that’s clearly not needed in my mind, especially after the Boko signing.

If Zach is the best we can do I’d rather not risk the chance that DJ plays him every game and go with another prospect that has a higher upside with regards to contributing offensively.

We’ll see what Debrincat amounts to but our bottom 6 doesn’t look to be improved from last season, which is hard to accomplish considering how putrid it was ..

 

[DueDiligence]

I only speak for myself, but personally, I would prefer it if they signed good players to play on the team.

Names please! But they have to be at the league minimum.

 

[Micklebot]

McEwen getting signed just means Imama is unlikely to be on the roster, it's really a non factor. 3 years is odd, but again, it's at a league min for a 12/13th forward, so the impact is pretty much nothing.

My issue is I'd rather someone better once cap space opens up, but if we're willing to waive him and send him down that's not an issue.

 

[DaveMatthew]

If you are telling me Zac will do what Carkner did to the Rangers if someone touches Stutzle, then sure, I like him already. But every time something like Cooke or Dell happens, nothing comes of it. Our guy goes up to them and asks to fight; they decline, and that's it. So I don't really see the need for a 4th line enforcer unless they can actually play hockey.

MacEwen can "play" hockey. He skates well for his size. He hits. He can forecheck. All of those traits are part of playing the game of hockey, especially in a 4th line role. He generates energy. Last year on LA, a good team, they generated more scoring chances when he was on the ice than they gave up. He's fine in an 7-9 minute a night role.

What are you expecting on the 4th line for $775k? 15 goals?

 

[Micklebot]

Names please! But they have to be at the league minimum.

We're trading DeBrincat, once that happens we'll actually know how much we can afford to spend on depth forwards, its quite possible we have room to upgrade over McEwen,

 

[2CHAINZ]

Names please! But they have to be at the league minimum.

Why do they have to be a league min? Can't I use cap space?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Why do they have to be a league min? Can't I use cap space?

There isn’t any

 

[OttawaSenators11]

McEwen getting signed just means Imama is unlikely to be on the roster, it's really a non factor. 3 years is odd, but again, it's at a league min for a 12/13th forward, so the impact is pretty much nothing.

My issue is I'd rather someone better once cap space opens up, but if we're willing to waive him and send him down that's not an issue.

We’ll see but would it really surprise you if we dress both Zach and Boko during the season especially after Dorion’s comments?