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With the Caps signing Tuch, would Aliaksei Protas make sense 6′ 6″ and 250 pounds.

Was stuck behind OV, maybe with a bigger role he is 70-80 points guy.

I think someone like this would be a target.
 
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Mctavish is a better option due to his potential and the way he plays. he goes to the middle of the ice and will score around the net and tip in pucks more of a PF

Mctavish is 23 and Debrusk is going to be 30 when the season starts. I mean the differences in potential is obvious
Debrusk literally led the entire league in SOG from the middle of the ice last year.

McTavish has more potential, but he's definitely not the better player than Debrusk right now.

He's also a better and more consistent goal scorer by a margin, which is our biggest need. He also plays both wings, rather than needing to be moved over from C.
 
It's deep though. It makes me tired for other teams just looking at the depth.
It deep because we don't have much higher end talent on the roster which doesn't make it actually that deep. Ya its nice Foegele is on the 4th line and Z is on the 3rd/4th line but they won't produe that well getting limited ice like that
 
If we get a McTavish that's not going to be enough for this top 6. We'd need to add another to get it done by committee, if we aren't confident in landing a high end scorer.
 
Debrusk literally led the entire league in SOG from the middle of the ice last year.

McTavish has more potential, but he's definitely not the better player than Debrusk right now.
I think the point with Mctavish being a better option is that you are trading him to rehab him into a better player. If Mctavish does not improve his production here I think most would be disappointed.

With Debrusk he is what he is at 30. a 40-45 point winger who is def not a top line talent
 
It deep because we don't have much higher end talent on the roster which doesn't make it actually that deep. Ya its nice Foegele is on the 4th line and Z is on the 3rd/4th line but they won't produe that well getting limited ice like that
I guess. It'll be nice to roll out 4 effective lines, but we need a sniper for sure.
 
I'd like to see the Sens use 25 + to add another top 6 F

For the strength / depth of the roster I think its important

I know the Z fans think Eklund will make Z a top 6 winger but I have my doubts he'll be reliable there.

Also I would like to drop Greig down with Pinto and Amadio and fill that spot with a more proven scorer.

I look at it like right now we have 4 proven top 6 forwards projected for our top 6 now.
 
I think the point with Mctavish being a better option is that you are trading him to rehab him into a better player. If Mctavish does not improve his production here I think most would be disappointed.

With Debrusk he is what he is at 30. a 40-45 point winger who is def not a top line talent
I definitely think he can be more than that here, if healthy. No reason he can't hit career highs. He even hit a career high in goals in Vancouver despite the team sucking and being unable to score.
 
Correction on the Martian tweet I posted. It seemed he was indicating the player is from Western Canada themselves, rather than a Western Canadian team.
 
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If we get a McTavish that's not going to be enough for this top 6. We'd need to add another to get it done by committee, if we aren't confident in landing a high end scorer.

McTavish - Stutzle - Batherson
Eklund - Cozens - Zetterlund
Greig - Pinto - Giroux
Foegele - Halliday - Amadio

That'd be a perfectly fine lineup. A solid bet to be a really good team. Is there a ton of star power up front? No. But a ton of depth in the areas that matter.
 
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McTavish - Stutzle - Batherson
Eklund - Cozens - Zetterlund
Greig - Pinto - Giroux
Foegele - Halliday - Amadio

That'd be a perfectly fine lineup. A solid bet to be a really good team. Is there a ton of star power up front? No. But a ton of depth in the areas that matter.
Zetterlund in the top 6, even on a line with his BFF, is not a recipe for success.
 
Really hope we aren't trading Spence for someone a little taller but much less capable.

It's hard enough for this team to get ahead while making the right moves.
 
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Is it deep?

Running a whole team with 2nd and 3rd liners(Stu excepted) rarely works out.
As of right now, that's the only concern - providing we add another winger. Is it enough? It was last year with Brady mailing it in and being injured for a long stretch. The historically bad goaltending is hopefully behind us, so what changed in terms of the outlook of this team being competitive every game and getting 20+ goal contributions from at least 4 of the 9 forwards?
 
running a first line with Eklund and Debrusk (40-45 point winger who thrives mostly on the PP) and calling it sexy is wild

I'm not a huge DeBrusk fan, but if you put him beside Eklund and Stutzle at even strength and in Tkachuk's spot on the PP, he's probably pushing 30G.

Like it or not, we're going to be a scoring by committee team. That forward group has zero weak links and even the 4th line should be capable of producing a decent amount of offense.

Largely the same group was 7th in expected goals last season, and I'd argue that Eklund + DeBrusk > Tkachuk + Cousins.
 
Zetterlund in the top 6, even on a line with his BFF, is not a recipe for success.

People focus too much on lines. He wouldn't be a top 6 forward, even if he's slotted on the 2nd line. Ehlers was on Carolina's 3rd line, but was one of their top 6 forwards.

Stutzle
Cozens
Pinto
Batherson
Eklund
Greig/Giroux

That's the top 6. I imagine Staios is looking for a guy who'll push Greig/Giroux down.
 
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I think the point with Mctavish being a better option is that you are trading him to rehab him into a better player. If Mctavish does not improve his production here I think most would be disappointed.

With Debrusk he is what he is at 30. a 40-45 point winger who is def not a top line talent
I think that's a bit misleading.

Debrusk had a down year, where as mentioned, his sh% plummeted, that's unlikely to happen againt.

But, last year, he had 28g and 48 pts on a pretty dysfunctional Van team. His best year in Bos wasn't too long ago, he had 27g and 50 pts in 64 games. Granted, the next season was a down year, in part because he was he lost he center with Bergeron's retirement, and Coyle just isn't a playmaker and he was no longer used on the top PP.

I think in the right situation, 25-30 goals and ~50 pts is certainly possible for him.
 
Is it deep?

Running a whole team with 2nd and 3rd liners(Stu excepted) rarely works out.

Eh. It's what we've done for a while now.

Brady was a poor man's first liner production wise most years. And not a good finisher at all.

We are going to have to win with depth. There are no stars coming to save us.

I tend to agree with you that it won't work out but what choice do we have?
 
I definitely think he can be more than that here, if healthy. No reason he can't hit career highs. He even hit a career high in goals in Vancouver despite the team sucking and being unable to score.

How many players suddenly get better at 30?

He hit his ceiling long ago. He'd have been a good addition before Tkachuk left, but I don't see how he scores more with this current roster.
 

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