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The free agent week went pretty well for the rangers from a peer perspective. Tampa got weaker and most free agent talent was distributed throughout other teams (devils / blue jackets) that aren’t at the rangers level. Pitt / Boston / Washington are getting older. No idea what Toronto is doing on the goalie front.
Carolina did a good job replacing talent.

I’d put the rangers at the top of the east in pre season picks.
 
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egelband said:
I keep saying this. What kind of business reaches into the employees pockets when times are tough. Too petty to fail.
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Businesses typically don’t give out 7 year contracts, among other things. If business is bad, they layoff people or make them take pay cuts.
 
UnparalledPark said:
True, but some are expecting the teams give everyone a raise.
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Look. I am not saying this is a sad state of affairs for the player or anything like that. Just saying the playing field is tilted more toward ownership than other industries and even other North American pro sports (well, maybe nfl is worse). It’s not necessary, in my opinion, that such a strong product should be managed and operated so austerely.
 
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It looks like we have about 5m left in cap space. We still need to resign kakko. What are we thinking a reasonable deal is? Like 3x3? That would leave enough to resign Motte.
 
Like I said just feels like something is up with motte and kakko still unsigned.

Again I think it’s foolish to pay a 4th liner with some of the guys u have in the system but I love motte and this is a win now team.

So something just seems like it’s up and we may not like it. Kravtsov still seems to me like a guy that could move. What if Drury wants to go Goodrow Chytil Blais for his third line? With motte Carpenter Reaves and Hunt as his 4th liners.

What if Blais is moved?

Blais or Kravtsov’s money could go to motte and fit. Just still seems like something is up and it may be fit based on what gallant wants more than anything
 
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Off Sides said:
Rangers are at 44 contract out of the max of 50.

They'll likely keep a couple of those remaining spots open for the just in case stuff.

They will probably sign a couple more inexpensive players whether for the NHL or AHL.

I am surprised some team has not signed Motte yet, maybe he is waiting on the Rangers to figure out how much NHL cap space they'll have, after Kakko, to see if there is an avenue to staying, or he is just asking for too much for any team he would sign with to accept.

Personally I think Motte adds more to the Rangers than many others do. He'd be a very good 4th liner who also could PK if they would play him there. I'd gladly see him on the team over Reaves, Hunt, (probably Carpenter too) depending on match up, and especially in the playoffs.
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I like Motte too and think he would be a great addition to the 4th line but with the way the market is shaking out he's not going to get the 2 mil per that he wanted. If he would take 1.25-1.5 for 2 years that would be a good signing.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
Like I said just feels like something is up with motte and kakko still unsigned.

Again I think it’s foolish to pay a 4th liner with some of the guys u have in the system but I love motte and this is a win now team.

So something just seems like it’s up and we may not like it. Kravtsov still seems to me like a guy that could move. What if Drury wants to go Goodrow Chytil Blais for his third line? With motte Carpenter Reaves and Hunt as his 4th liners.

What if Blais is moved?

Blais or Kravtsov’s money could go to motte and fit. Just still seems like something is up and it may be fit based on what gallant wants more than anything
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I see Kravtsov as being here. Maybe he becomes a trade chip at the deadline for Patrick Kane but that remains to be seen. That to me would be best path forward. Let Kravtsov bank some points to increase his value. This way we can possibly position Lundkvist for a different trade. Such as Dallas as RB has alluded to for Mavrik Bourque. Would give us the center depth we have been searching for moving forward for the 23-24 season and beyond.

And if it comes down to it, I move Hunt, Gauthier, and Hajek all day long to have the cap space to retain Motte who is a more established effective player for the role we need him to play.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Carpenter-Goodrow
Reaves

Ryhdal is a guy who could push for a spot as well. But again not a guy that should prevent us from having Motte back to have an elite 4th line.
 
Chytilmania said:
And we'll get Susan Sarandon to create a Twitter campaign like she did for Vesey.
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Damnit @Chytilmania , we want to keep Motte....not drive him away!

Oscar Lindberg said:
Btw is Kakko being unsigned really that strange? If it was late august and he was unsigned okay fine but mid July no
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It's probably all the minutiae of bonus clauses and cents for two years. It'll get done.
 
Historically, haven't the Rangers taken time between FA day and signing their youngsters? This has happened many times in the past and there was never any issue.

Regardless, I tend to think by the end of the season, either Kakko or Kravtsov will be seen as a keeper and the other will be seen as an expendable asset in some capacity and the Rangers will convert on whatever they can get.

I also don't think the Rangers will side with the necessarily "better" player. If Kravtsov is more productive than Kakko but seems like he really doesn't intend to stay with the Rangers or the Rangers think he's not meshing with the existing regime, they'll ship him out and hold onto Kakko. But I think regardless, it's hard to see both of them with this team past this season. I expect one of them gone.
 
Priorae said:
The free agent week went pretty well for the rangers from a peer perspective. Tampa got weaker and most free agent talent was distributed throughout other teams (devils / blue jackets) that aren’t at the rangers level. Pitt / Boston / Washington are getting older. No idea what Toronto is doing on the goalie front.
Carolina did a good job replacing talent.

I’d put the rangers at the top of the east in pre season picks.
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Rangers did solid in my opinion. I'm still not in love with their PK situation as of now; too much ice time for the top six (Ziba/Kreid/Troch) who over the course of an 82 game season, need to have minutes managed. I'm actually ok with the bottom D pair. Schneider and some combo of Jones/Robertson. Lundkvist can be in the mix too.

Carolina's center depth is weaker. They added some known names in Burns and Pacioretty, the later who is declining. It's all about these youngsters like Necas/Kotka/Reese/Drury and how they can contribute. Jarvis is already a stud.

Out of all the teams in the Metro, I'd say Pittsburgh did best. Archibald will help. Ruuta was a very very good pickup. They've basically kept the same main components of their team and have a slightly better D.

Tampa lost a lot of substance on D with McD and Ruuta who are >>>> Fleury and Cole, and Palat gone is going to hurt, but can't count them out until they've lost four in a playoff series.
 
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PuckLuck3043 said:
I like Motte too and think he would be a great addition to the 4th line but with the way the market is shaking out he's not going to get the 2 mil per that he wanted. If he would take 1.25-1.5 for 2 years that would be a good signing.
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Motte I think would be good at like 1.5 -1.7 for say two years, or even one. No clauses.

Yet I do think if someone offers him anywhere near 2M for those, or more years he is probably taking that as long as it's somewhere he'd want to play.

I don't think he is going to get the Jarnkrok contract 2.1x4 for example, but who knows.

I think the Rangers grabbed Carpenter to play him, and with Reaves, Motte probably is not seen as very important, not that I think having a slow 4th line is a very good idea.
 
Roo Returns said:
Rangers did solid in my opinion. I'm still not in love with their PK situation as of now; too much ice time for the top six (Ziba/Kreid/Troch) who over the course of an 82 game season, need to have minutes managed. I'm actually ok with the bottom D pair. Schneider and some combo of Jones/Robertson. Lundkvist can be in the mix too.

Carolina's center depth is weaker. They added some known names in Burns and Pacioretty, the later who is declining. It's all about these youngsters like Necas/Kotka/Reese/Drury and how they can contribute. Jarvis is already a stud.

Out of all the teams in the Metro, I'd say Pittsburgh did best. Archibald will help. Ruuta was a very very good pickup. They've basically kept the same main components of their team and have a slightly better D.

Tampa lost a lot of substance on D with McD and Ruuta who are >>>> Fleury and Cole, and Palat gone is going to hurt, but can't count them out until they've lost four in a playoff series.
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They kept an aging core in tact that has already been failing and I'm not sold on Rutta outside of Tampa.

If they do in fact end up with Johan Larsson (was reported by EF on Wednesday but nothing has been signed yet, they may be trying to clear money first) then yeah, thats a pretty big pick up for them. I get how hard it is to walk away from franchise cornerstones, but theirs aren't getting any better. I'd expect further steps backwards from both Malkin and Letang in the coming season and lets be real, father time is going to come for Crosby at some point too.

Jarry also still sucks. Not seeing it with the Pens. They're an old group that is going to be really easy to push around.

Carolina OTOH is really interesting. I don't know so much that they got better than they got different but that may be exactly what they need to get over the edge. Clear that they felt goal scoring (especially on the PP) was an issue and they've added 2 really good shooters.
 
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Motte I think would be good at like 1.5 -1.7 for say two years, or even one. No clauses.

Yet I do think if someone offers him anywhere near 2M for those, or more years he is probably taking that as long as it's somewhere he'd want to play.

I don't think he is going to get the Jarnkrok contract 2.1x4 for example, but who knows.

I think the Rangers grabbed Carpenter to play him, and with Reaves, Motte probably is not seen as very important, not that I think having a slow 4th line is a very good idea.
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If he gets 2 mil in this market he should take it and run. He just doesn't score enough to be worth anything more. Again, I would love to have him but I understand them not paying his price.
 
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To be clear to those complaining- the focus on Motte comes with the understanding that the quality of our fourth line actually does matter in an extended playoff series.

If we can’t afford Tyler, which is 95 percent likely, as the season progresses we should be experimenting with incorporating guys like Cuylle or Rydahl to see how they compare with Hunt, Carpenter, and Reaves in terms of performance.
 
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Uninstaaled said:
They kept an aging core in tact that has already been failing and I'm not sold on Rutta outside of Tampa.

If they do in fact end up with Johan Larsson (was reported by EF on Wednesday but nothing has been signed yet, they may be trying to clear money first) then yeah, thats a pretty big pick up for them. I get how hard it is to walk away from franchise cornerstones, but theirs aren't getting any better. I'd expect further steps backwards from both Malkin and Letang in the coming season and lets be real, father time is going to come for Crosby at some point too.

Jarry also still sucks. Not seeing it with the Pens. They're an old group that is going to be really easy to push around.

Carolina OTOH is really interesting. I don't know so much that they got better than they got different but that may be exactly what they need to get over the edge. Clear that they felt goal scoring (especially on the PP) was an issue and they've added 2 really good shooters.
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But they just resigned cheap shot artists Letang and Malkin. They are older and injuries are a concern but they have good structure and a good coach. They will be in the playoffs again. The east is going to be another dogfight.
 
PuckLuck3043 said:
But they just resigned cheap shot artists Letang and Malkin. They are older and injuries are a concern but they have good structure and a good coach. They will be in the playoffs again. The east is going to be another dogfight.
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Letang isn't really dirty. He's been the recipient of many dirty hits over the years if anything. Malkin OTOH is a dirtbag, but he's really all they got in that regard.

I have no doubt that they'll be in the playoffs, but they'll be one and done again, especially if Jarry is healthy enough to play.
 
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Fitzy said:
To be clear to those complaining- the focus on Motte comes with the understanding that the quality of our fourth line actually does matter in an extended playoff series.

If we can’t afford Tyler, which is 95 percent likely, as the season progresses we should be experimenting with incorporating guys like Cuylle or Rydahl to see how they compare with Hunt, Carpenter, and Reaves in terms of performance.
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Motte is looking for term in addition to $2M-$2.5M AAV. Vancouver wanted to keep him. They traded him to the Rangers for a 4th round pick.
 
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