GDT: Free Agency Day - 7/13 @ 12pm EST

[Lays]

I’m glad the Rangers didn’t get Dubois. What a loser. Every few years he wants to go to another team, sorry this isn’t the NBA and you’re not a superstar. Have fun playing under the pressure in front of your fellow Frenchmen.

Absolutely stoked we didn’t pay a price of at least 2 1st round picks + for him.

He’s hit 60 points twice in his career. Both times he was playing with a winger that outscored him by 20 points. Panarin and Connor both carried the hell out of him

Paul Stastny at 36 years old only paced for 8 less points than him

Blake Wheeler at 35 years old paced for 15 more points than him

Don’t get me wrong I’d take Dubois over Trocheck if Dubois was a UFA but for next year give me Trocheck

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I’m stunned that Motte isn’t signed by anyone yet. Helluva player. I know he said it’s unlikely, but maybe Drury is trying to make it work.

 

[Off Sides]

Rangers are at 44 contract out of the max of 50.

They'll likely keep a couple of those remaining spots open for the just in case stuff.

They will probably sign a couple more inexpensive players whether for the NHL or AHL.

I am surprised some team has not signed Motte yet, maybe he is waiting on the Rangers to figure out how much NHL cap space they'll have, after Kakko, to see if there is an avenue to staying, or he is just asking for too much for any team he would sign with to accept.

Personally I think Motte adds more to the Rangers than many others do. He'd be a very good 4th liner who also could PK if they would play him there. I'd gladly see him on the team over Reaves, Hunt, (probably Carpenter too) depending on match up, and especially in the playoffs.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

pierre luc dubois's brother told me he smells and buys generic brand fruit loops despite making millions

Weren’t you the guy who said he was gonna ban himself like 500 times already? Oh sorry, didn’t mean to assume your gender.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Absolutely stoked we didn’t pay a price of at least 2 1st round picks + for him.

He’s hit 60 points twice in his career. Both times he was playing with a winger that outscored him by 20 points. Panarin and Connor both carried the hell out of him

Paul Stastny at 36 years old only paced for 8 less points than him

Blake Wheeler at 35 years old paced for 15 more points than him

Don’t get me wrong I’d take Dubois over Trocheck if Dubois was a UFA but for next year give me Trocheck

Exactly I agree. And the Fox and Dubois trades are completely different. The only similarity is that they’ve been traded twice(when Winnipeg trades Dubois). Fox was a prospect who never played a single game while Dubois was a top pick and supposed to be the face of a franchise at the time of their first trades. Completely different scenarios.

 

[Tob]

Absolutely stoked we didn’t pay a price of at least 2 1st round picks + for him.

He’s hit 60 points twice in his career. Both times he was playing with a winger that outscored him by 20 points. Panarin and Connor both carried the hell out of him

Paul Stastny at 36 years old only paced for 8 less points than him

Blake Wheeler at 35 years old paced for 15 more points than him

Don’t get me wrong I’d take Dubois over Trocheck if Dubois was a UFA but for next year give me Trocheck

PLD has underperform when he ends up in Montreal written all over it.

 

[egelband]

You know what signing motte long term when you have guys like trivigno and cuylle who are going to do everything possible to make this team seems like a bad idea honestly. Especially when you have hunt who does everything motte does except kill penalties. Prob doing him a disservice not letting him into that rotation. He needs to be an effective pker for his role.

Argh! You’re right. But I still want Motte . But I don’t disagree. He’s a luxury for the Rangers. Just get Kakko done. The rest is gravy.

Rangers are at 44 contract out of the max of 50.

They'll likely keep a couple of those remaining spots open for the just in case stuff.

They will probably sign a couple more inexpensive players whether for the NHL or AHL.

I am surprised some team has not signed Motte yet, maybe he is waiting on the Rangers to figure out how much NHL cap space they'll have, after Kakko, to see if there is an avenue to staying, or he is just asking for too much for any team he would sign with to accept.

Personally I think Motte adds more to the Rangers than many others do. He'd be a very good 4th liner who also could PK if they would play him there. I'd gladly see him on the team over Reaves, Hunt, (probably Carpenter too) depending on match up, and especially in the playoffs.

I think that’s what’s happening. Motte probably giving the Rangers a couple days to clear cap. I don’t think he has 15 teams banging down his door but I also think he has no problem getting a deal.

 

[egelband]

Fox seemed to “let it be known” he wanted to play for the rangers and wouldn’t sign with other teams

As was his right. He could have said nothing and left Calgary holding the bag. Instead he they got something for him. Seems pretty cool.

 

[egelband]

If you’re MTL, why are you spending assets on PDL now?

I agree, there’s no rush. But I think they intend to be competitive well before PDL is a free agent. You’re right, they can take it slow, let Winnipeg’s price drop. But they’ll probably want to have their core in place in the next season or two. Rebuilds nowadays are faster. And this is assuming Montreal wants him.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Rangers are at 44 contract out of the max of 50.

They'll likely keep a couple of those remaining spots open for the just in case stuff.

They will probably sign a couple more inexpensive players whether for the NHL or AHL.

I am surprised some team has not signed Motte yet, maybe he is waiting on the Rangers to figure out how much NHL cap space they'll have, after Kakko, to see if there is an avenue to staying, or he is just asking for too much for any team he would sign with to accept.

Personally I think Motte adds more to the Rangers than many others do. He'd be a very good 4th liner who also could PK if they would play him there. I'd gladly see him on the team over Reaves, Hunt, (probably Carpenter too) depending on match up, and especially in the playoffs.

A lot more of these guys will sign after the second buyout window. Others will be forced to attend camp on PTOs.

Motte is a disruptor and a perfect lead protector. Would love if they could somehow fit him in and ship out some of the dead weight like Gauthier/Hajek.

I'm willing to give Reaves the benefit if the doubt. He's a hard worker. If he slims down and concentrates on his skating he might stick around another few years in the league. He slowed down as the season progressed.

 

[egelband]

I could also see Motte getting his deal- signing for ＄2m for three or four years- with a team like Chicago and then the rangers trading for him at the deadline. They should be able to absorb that hit from next season.

 

[Avery16]

Trocheck and his contract is better than Danault and his contract. We’re better off for having skipped Danault.

 

[egelband]

Trocheck and his contract is better than Danault and his contract. We’re better off for having skipped Danault.

Totally agree. Trocheck is a solid step above. Danault also pretty weak in the playoffs.

 

[Filip Chytil]

pierre luc dubois's brother told me he smells and buys generic brand fruit loops despite making millions

Does he eat tofu?

 

[Synergy27]

Totally agree. Trocheck is a solid step above. Danault also pretty weak in the playoffs.

I want to agree with this but I’m just not sure. Very similar players statistically. Would have been nice to have Danault last year as well.

 

[JimmyG89]

Trocheck and his contract is better than Danault and his contract. We’re better off for having skipped Danault.

And Panarin needs a goal scorer. Danault isn't someone that traditionally scores. He did this season, but I'm not sold. Trocheck can score. He had to be the playmaker on his line this year.

I can see 30 from him. The amount of missed chances Strome didn't bury or died on the stick of Hunt will be buried by Trocheck.

 

[JohnC]

I keep saying this. What kind of business reaches into the employees pockets when times are tough. Too petty to fail.

? Most businesses reach into employees pockets in tough times in different ways i.e. cutting salaries/benefits/laying people off. From my perspective, that is not what’s happening in the NHL.

 

[Savant]

I could also see Motte getting his deal- signing for ＄2m for three or four years- with a team like Chicago and then the rangers trading for him at the deadline. They should be able to absorb that hit from next season.

I’m not trading from Motte if he has two the three more years in his deal at the deadline. That’s dumb.

 

[egelband]

I want to agree with this but I’m just not sure. Very similar players statistically. Would have been nice to have Danault last year as well.

Fair. I’m probably projecting a bit. I do think trocheck has more…gravity…more of a playoff performer. But indeed, hard to say.

 

[egelband]

I’m not trading from Motte if he has two the three more years in his deal at the deadline. That’s dumb.

Why is it dumb? I’d be happy if the rangers give Motte three years now but they can’t afford it.

 

[Savant]

Why is it dumb? I’d be happy if the rangers give Motte three years now but they can’t afford it.

Because you can’t waste that kind of termed money in the bottom six when you are in the Rangers cap situation. The margins matter. They need to use there own depth there, and if it doesn’t work you try and find another Motte trade at the deadline. The rental trade is usually better than the long term signing. 1yr deals for 4th liners.

 

[egelband]

Because you can’t waste that kind of termed money in the bottom six when you are in the Rangers cap situation. The margins matter. They need to use there own depth there, and if it doesn’t work you try and find another Motte trade at the deadline. The rental trade is usually better than the long term signing. 1yr deals for 4th liners.

I think $2m on a guy like that for three years is fine. Yes, 3-4 is too much. But $2m - or frankly it’s probably less for Motte with term - is fine.

 

[Savant]

I think $2m on a guy like that for three years is fine. Yes, 3-4 is too much. But $2m - or frankly it’s probably less for Motte with term - is fine.

It’s not though. Look at the Reaves deal for example. “Only 1.75m” was extended an extra year before playing a game as a Ranger for….reasons? Look at Nemeth. Bottom pair dman from got a 3 year deal for…reasons? Those lower AAV contracts proved to be just as much of anchors in context. Couldn’t have re-signed Kakko with Nemeth here so cost at least one 2nd rounder to clear the salary. Reaves here an extra year than he should have been, and not the Rangers can’t add a better rounded player, like even Motte, on that fourth line. 4th line is not where you can commit a ton of cap too. That’s where you lean on your player development, sign guys on 1yr deals and fix at the deadline if neither of those things worked. The last thing you do it throw term at it.

 

[Fitzy]

If Jones or Robertson make the team next season in a cup competing year, our defense will be 1/2 composed by guys we drafted, and 5/6ths full of guys who played their first pro hockey for the Rangers.

I'd say that qualifies as being referred to as a 'homegrown defense' which is pretty neat.

 

[RangerBoy]

Nicolas Aube-Kubel signed a 1 year deal for $1M with Toronto. He was a good role player on the Avs. Motte is looking for a lot of money and there is not a lot of money available for 4th line wingers. Motte was looking for a decent amount of term.

Gaudreau had three offers. He would have had more than three offers in previous years. Kadri is still available. His market dried up fast. Teams are having difficulty moving players. You can move a player if you attach a few draft picks or you can trade the player for nothing.

The Rangers at the trade deadline will have little maneuverability. They aren't using the same 22 players all season. They will need that space to operate the team. People got spoiled with the last trade deadline and they think the Rangers can fix their issues at the deadline. The Rangers were more aggressive at that last trade deadline because that opportunity would not be there again.