GDT: Free Agency Day - 7/13 @ 12pm EST

[mike14]

Is it good enough to beat Tampa, Colorado, Edmonton, Florida? I'm not so sure. It's like moneyball centers. Not one, except for Zibanejad, stack up against other top teams' centers. They're still going to play match up against Zibanejad. And we saw what happened when they do that, our offense gets completely shut down. I don't think Trocheck beats that situation for us. If we had PLD then teams are trying to shut down two 70+ point centers with size.

It might not be, winning a cup is difficult. But I can't see how VT is worse than any other feasible option, and as a centre he's better than quite a few.
Realistically we've got 2-3 seasons to see whether he and the rest of them can get it done, and this team is going to look very different anyway

 

[Synergy27]

Bonus stat to melt your brain: Over in the NBA, Nikola Jokic signed a five-year, record $264 million contract earlier this month. The total NHL free-agent value across 35 different signings as of around 2:30 p.m. ET yesterday? $265 million, per Spotrac.

 

[duhmetreE]

Bonus stat to melt your brain: Over in the NBA, Nikola Jokic signed a five-year, record $264 million contract earlier this month. The total NHL free-agent value across 35 different signings as of around 2:30 p.m. ET yesterday? $265 million, per Spotrac.

Who? MLB and NBA player contracts are ridiculous

 

[Savant]

So going for a 4th line C like Carpenter ?

Run W Jones on LD W Hajek , Robertson behind him

If they are looking for a vet minimum 4C in that mold, especially one that doesn’t need to play every game, the could do a lot worse than bringing Derek Stepan back. He was very good in that role for Carolina last year and was popular in that locker room without playing every game.

 

[Chytilmania]

After the past two offseasons, plus Chytil in the playoffs, we may be set at Center for the next 3-5 years. Gives these 2nd/3rd round picks more time to develop and we don't need them to step into a 2C role. If Chytil continues to improve then he gets bumped up to 2C and Trocheck becomes a great 3C. Another good problem to have. If we can't afford a Chytil raise then we deal him and get a similar ELC center? Plenty of options and our center prospect depth won't kill us.

 

[RGY]

If they are looking for a vet minimum 4C in that mold, especially one that doesn’t need to play every game, the could do a lot worse than bringing Derek Stepan back. He was very good in that role for Carolina last year and was popular in that locker room without playing every game.

Kakko, Motte, Stepan are my final moves.

Trade Gauthier and Hajek for peanuts if you can. Might have to move Hunt as well for the extra cap space.

Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Goodrow-Stepan
Reaves/Hunt

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Rookie-Schneider

Igor
Halak

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I bet tortz had them make defense the priority

I mean maybe but if that was the case maybe they shouldn’t have signed one of the worst defenders in the league lmao

 

[bigdog16]

I really don't get the vitriol for Strome.

Was he a frustrating player? Sure, at times. But this is someone we picked off the scrap heap that ended up playing 2C minutes for us for 4 years while we rebuilt. At the end of the day, he wasn't a good enough 2C for us to contend with, but it's not like I personally hate him for it.

By all accounts, he was the player who did the most to keep the team socially connected during the Covid shutdown. He never threw any of his teammates under the bus. Always took personal responsibility for his failings. He wore a letter, so he obviously had the respect of his teammates. He was also pretty much our only top-6er that would drop the gloves when needed, even though that isn't really a part of his game.

I wish him well in Anaheim. This fanbase loves to hate on guys being asked to play above their heads. I didn't want him back as our 2C either, but ffs, have some perspective.

This x1000000000000

Strome laid it on the line with us for 4 years. Seemed like he was one of the most well liked guys in the locker room. Never complained and was always accountable. He was very clearly hurt these past playoffs and its a shame he had to go out the way he did. He should get a nice standing O when he is back at MSG.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Who? MLB and NBA player contracts are ridiculous

He’s only been the MVP of the NBA for the last two years lmao

 

[Daves a mess]

Kakko, Motte, Stepan are my final moves.

Trade Gauthier and Hajek for peanuts if you can. Might have to move Hunt as well for the extra cap space.

Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Goodrow-Stepan
Reaves/Hunt

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Rookie-Schneider

Igor
Halak

Even Tom Poti would take the peanuts over Gauthier ..

 

[Savant]

I bet tortz had them make defense the priority

That’s not what happened.

Fletcher knows that there is a still a chance that they are bad (even with Gaudreau) so he didn’t want to throw away his Bedard ticket; which logically makes sense BUT is so far removed from everything else that the Flyers are doing that this was a really weird time to draw a line in the sand about trading picks. Especially after all the other recent terrible trades that he has made. Torts is probably furious. That’s not why he went there either

 

[Synergy27]

This x1000000000000

Strome laid it on the line with us for 4 years. Seemed like he was one of the most well liked guys in the locker room. Never complained and was always accountable. He was very clearly hurt these past playoffs and its a shame he had to go out the way he did. He should get a nice standing O when he is back at MSG.

I really wonder what some people have been watching. The other Ryan on the team? Sure. Strome? Laid it on the line? Seriously?

 

[tomobson]

I really wonder what some people have been watching. The other Ryan on the team? Sure. Strome? Laid it on the line? Seriously?

People forget how good Panarin is. Strome owes Panarin everything right now.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Depth 4C, compete with Rydahl and allow Goodie to play up. Did some filtering, names seem to be:

Nash, Hayden, Steel, Borgstrom, Lamikko

900k budget, Thoughts?

 

[Avery16]

Reaves had the third-most hits *in the league* last season, is very well-liked in the locker room, and is probably the only reason Panarin isn’t in a full body cast.

It’s ok to want more from him than what he’s doing. I do. But he’s not retiring. He’s worth more to this team than most of the names people here want to bump him for.

 

[Vitto79]

Reaves had the third-most hits *in the league* last season, is very well-liked in the locker room, and is probably the only reason Panarin isn’t in a full body cast.

It’s ok to want more from him than what he’s doing. I do. But he’s not retiring. He’s worth more to this team than most of the names people here want to bump him for.

Yea he’s staying but next year he’s gotta take like 900 k or let him go

Going to have to Bridge Miller and Laf
Likely trade Chytil

 

[Machinehead]

And how is that ok in this horseshit league.

The guy was basically a PPG player when healthy. @Machinehead is totally right about this gong show cap. Guys made more money in 2003 & teams had bigger payrolls. But now the players need to subsidize the owners losses because of...covid. The other 3 leagues are laughing their asses off at the NHL, daily.

The union got absolutely torched in the last two CBA's. The salary cap was sold as "parity" but really, it was just wage suppression. The owners got what they wanted, quality of the league be damned.

Owning a sports team really isn't particularly profitable. You have to be already insanely rich to buy a sports team and sports owners make their living doing something else. This is particularly true in hockey which isn't the cash cow that other sports are. Best case scenario for the owners, they nickel and dime the players and make billions. Worst case scenario, the players strike and they make slightly fewer billions selling hedge funds or whatever the f*** they do in the daytime.

Meanwhile, hockey is a particularly dangerous sport and an ELC, possibly even your second contract, isn't lasting the rest of your life if you get hurt.

The owners can't lose like the players can lose and the NHLPA just doesn't have leverage.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Is it good enough to beat Tampa, Colorado, Edmonton, Florida? I'm not so sure. It's like moneyball centers. Not one, except for Zibanejad, stack up against other top teams' centers. They're still going to play match up against Zibanejad. And we saw what happened when they do that, our offense gets completely shut down. I don't think Trocheck beats that situation for us. If we had PLD then teams are trying to shut down two 70+ point centers with size.

First off, Trocheck has more 70 point seasons than PLD does.

Secondly, a big part of building a championship caliber team involves culture and attitude. Without a doubt, Vinny is the type of guy who adds exactly what we are looking for in that department. He's tough to play against, he leaves every piece of himself on the ice. He plays in ALL situations.

PLD has been a little whiny selfish bitch everywhere he's played.

I'm not saying thats everything, but its a major part. On top of that, PLD would require a premium package and more dollars. We got vinny for under $6M AAV. This is a guy who has brought tons of offense, in nearly every situation imaginable. He's never played with a Panarin level player either. I get that PLD is oozing with talent, but I just think your assessment is too one dimensional. Trocheck fits the mold of the type of team the Rangers, and Drury, would like to build. He's a great human being and a great leader/mentor for how to be a professional and play the game night in and night out. I also see 70+ point potential if Vinny hits it off with Artemi, we will see.

 

[Bob Richards]

My offer for Kane at the deadline, you ask?

Kreider, Halak and a 2nd

LMFAO YES

We bringing back the classics

 

[Bob Richards]

Who? MLB and NBA player contracts are ridiculous

The back to back league MVP? lmfao

 

[Boris Zubov]

The back to back league MVP? lmfao

I never heard of him either. I doubt I could name 15 NBA players. Some of us truly do not watch that sport, ever.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

First off, Trocheck has more 70 point seasons than PLD does.

Secondly, a big part of building a championship caliber team involves culture and attitude. Without a doubt, Vinny is the type of guy who adds exactly what we are looking for in that department. He's tough to play against, he leaves every piece of himself on the ice. He plays in ALL situations.

PLD has been a little whiny selfish bitch everywhere he's played.

I'm not saying thats everything, but its a major part. On top of that, PLD would require a premium package and more dollars. We got vinny for under $6M AAV. This is a guy who has brought tons of offense, in nearly every situation imaginable. He's never played with a Panarin level player either. I get that PLD is oozing with talent, but I just think your assessment is too one dimensional. Trocheck fits the mold of the type of team the Rangers, and Drury, would like to build. He's a great human being and a great leader/mentor for how to be a professional and play the game night in and night out. I also see 70+ point potential if Vinny hits it off with Artemi, we will see.

5 years ago. We are banking on something a player did half a decade ago?

I hope I'm wrong, I really do. 7 years for this player is a lot. That's declaring he's the one we are banking on to win us Cups as a 2C. Our best opportunity to win at least one Cup is during the first half of his contract. He better be the guy.

 

[SA16]

5 years ago. We are banking on something a player did half a decade ago?

I hope I'm wrong, I really do. 7 years for this player is a lot. That's declaring he's the one we are banking on to win us Cups as a 2C. Our best opportunity to win at least one Cup is during the first half of his contract. He better be the guy.

I guess the 43 points in 47 games he scored just two seasons ago doesn't count. That was probably the best season of his career.

 

[bigdog16]

I really wonder what some people have been watching. The other Ryan on the team? Sure. Strome? Laid it on the line? Seriously?

This is just full blown recency bias. He played bad these past playoffs and thats all you can remember.

Ryan Lindgren wasn’t the only one playing with an injury, he was just the only one who let everyone know he was injured. Not that he doesn’t battle. But he surely lets everybody know that he is hurt.

 

[Synergy27]

5 years ago. We are banking on something a player did half a decade ago?

I hope I'm wrong, I really do. 7 years for this player is a lot. That's declaring he's the one we are banking on to win us Cups as a 2C. Our best opportunity to win at least one Cup is during the first half of his contract. He better be the guy.

This would be true for whomever we signed. You think Laf and Kakko are going to develop into superior players to Zib and Panarin in this nebulous “second window”?