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Rielly4 said:
i dont know why anyone would say that? Marleau? Zaitsev? If Lou was the GM we would have probably resigned Komarov, Bozak and JVR.
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He was also pretty bad in NJ, and had to bury bad contracts in the minors. Hopefully he thinks Marleau would be a great guy to bring in to mentor the young Islanders :nod:
 
Penguins, Wild in trade talks revolving around Phil Kessel
The Penguins and Minnesota Wild have a trade proposal on the table with Phil Kessel as the centerpiece, numerous sources confirmed to The Athletic.

It’s a poorly kept secret around the NHL that Kessel, who produced 82 points in 82 games last season, is available.
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However, Kessel ultimately will have some say in this decision, as he is the owner of a partial no-trade clause that allows him to name only eight teams he can be traded to.

Many in the Penguins organization assumed Kessel would be willing to play for the Wild. He is a Wisconsin native and played his one NCAA season at the University of Minnesota.

However, numerous sources confirmed that Kessel is unsure if he wants to play in Minnesota. He did research on Minnesota and the Wild during the past week, the sources said. Kessel is very close friends with Ryan Suter. Both are natives of Madison, Wisconsin, and played internationally together for Team USA.

It is believed Jason Zucker, the speedy Wild forward who scored 76 goals the past three seasons, would be part of the deal. Minnesota made it clear to other franchises that Zucker, 27, is available.

The Penguins and Wild also discussed a couple of players with long-term contracts in Jack Johnson and Victor Rask.

According to Michael Russo of The Athletic, the Wild are actively shopping Zucker and have talked to Calgary about Sam Bennett and Michael Frolik; to Arizona about Christian Dvorak and Christian Fischer; and to Vegas about Jonathan Marchessault.
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Peasy said:
Kessel for Zucker would be a huge steal for minny value wise, but I really feel like they need to rebuild.
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It really is but Penguins need to slash cap space due to the terrible signings/trades Rutherford has made lately. Kessel has been in the rumour mill for awhile too.

I hope the Leafs can work on a trade to perhaps get Spurgeon if they are retooling, but his 5M cap hit will be tough to manage unless the Leafs can chop Marleau or find away to make it work.
 
SprDaVE said:
It really is but Penguins need to slash cap space due to the terrible signings/trades Rutherford has made lately. Kessel has been in the rumour mill for awhile too.

I hope the Leafs can work on a trade to perhaps get Spurgeon if they are retooling, but his 5M cap hit will be tough to manage unless the Leafs can chop Marleau or find away to make it work.
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I feel like Brown and even Zaitsev can go this off-season but going to be super surprised if Marleau ends up not a Leaf next year.
 
Peasy said:
Kessel for Zucker would be a huge steal for minny value wise, but I really feel like they need to rebuild.
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The problem is the Suter and Paraise contracts.

They definitely could do with 2-3 top 10 draft picks though.

Worst case scenario is they flip Kessel again when hes closer to ufa for futures
 
WTFMAN99 said:
Any link? I'd have some interest depending on cost
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He's interesting, he'd want to be reasonably cheap to aquire though to make it a worthwhile roll of the dice

That's why I like Wennberg, you'd probably get him given to you, cap hit is a ***** though
 
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Kiwi said:
He's interesting, he'd want to be reasonably cheap to aquire though to make it a worthwhile roll of the dice

That's why I like Wennberg, you'd probably get him given to you, cap hit is a ***** though
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He's good defensively but his offense went to shit once he got concussed last year. CBJ could buy him out rather then retain on him just due to his age, only 1/3 salary penalty.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
He's good defensively but his offense went to **** once he got concussed last year. CBJ could buy him out rather then retain on him just due to his age, only 1/3 salary penalty.
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Some Euros just don't work in Torts system, I've watched the world's and Wennberg looks pretty bloody good with skilled players around him when he's not playing a Torts like North south game

Wennberg Matthews Nylander, that's an interesting line
 
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Kiwi said:
Some Euros just don't work in Torts system, I've watched the world's and Wennberg looks pretty bloody good with skilled players around him when he's not playing a Torts like North south game

Wennberg Matthews Nylander, that's an interesting line
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I am hoping for a minor miracle that sees Marleau leave.
 
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Kiwi said:
That's the dream, if Dubas can make that happen I'll start a religion worshiping him
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I can't imagine the cost is high on Wennberg but we'd need to even out some salary.

I am going out of the box here but I imagine that CBJ would want to save some money.

If Wennberg were bought out, even at 1/3 it costs them a bit over 7M.

Would they consider a pick and a prospect, along with Marleau, whom they would buy out for Wennberg? They need draft picks.

3rd round 2020, 4th 2019, Marleau and a prospect for Wennberg? Cap hit also disappears after only 1 year.
 
Lou is really handing their second tier/support players big deals .. Yikes.

Contracts he's given some players in recent years:

Freddy Andersen 5 yrs x $5 AAV (RFA)
Patrick Marleau 3yrs x $6.25 AAV
Nazem Kadri 6 yrs x $4.5 AAV (RFA)
Morgan Rielly 6 yrs x $5 AAV (RFA)
Nikita Zaitsev 7 yrs x $4.5 AAV
Brock Nelson 6 yrs x $6 AAV
Matt Martin 4 yrs x $2.5 AAV (and traded for him)
Leo Komarov 4 years x $3 AAV
Travis Zajac 8 yrs x $5.75 AAV
Mike Cammalleri 5 yrs X $5 AAV (had to buy him out and is still on their cap)
Cory Schneider 7 yrs x $6 AAV
Andy Greene 5 yrs x $5 AAV
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
I can't imagine the cost is high on Wennberg but we'd need to even out some salary.

I am going out of the box here but I imagine that CBJ would want to save some money.

If Wennberg were bought out, even at 1/3 it costs them a bit over 7M.

Would they consider a pick and a prospect, along with Marleau, whom they would buy out for Wennberg? They need draft picks.

3rd round 2020, 4th 2019, Marleau and a prospect for Wennberg? Cap hit also disappears after only 1 year.
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Does Wennberg hold that much value though at this point? Back to back season with poor numbers and a career high of 13 goals for $4.9 AAV over the next 4 years. That's a gamble on a cap tight team.

If that gets rid of Marleau for this season that's good (I believe Wennberg would be a big improvement) but he restricts the team's flexibility in future seasons... So I'd need to see at least Zaitsev gone as well to free up more space.
 
WTFMAN99 said:
I can't imagine the cost is high on Wennberg but we'd need to even out some salary.

I am going out of the box here but I imagine that CBJ would want to save some money.

If Wennberg were bought out, even at 1/3 it costs them a bit over 7M.

Would they consider a pick and a prospect, along with Marleau, whom they would buy out for Wennberg? They need draft picks.

3rd round 2020, 4th 2019, Marleau and a prospect for Wennberg? Cap hit also disappears after only 1 year.
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There a budget team right? I can't imagine eating 7M for a guy that's not even playing for them would be very pleasant

I wonder if they would do it for Zaitsev straight up? He'd be useful on there roster and the money wouldn't be that much different than Wennberg

I could see that being a potential Shenn for JVR situation again, I think Wennberg has the much higher ceiling if we can sort him out
 
Kiwi said:
There a budget team right? I can't imagine eating 7M for a guy that's not even playing for them would be very pleasant

I wonder if they would do it for Zaitsev straight up? He'd be useful on there roster and the money wouldn't be that much different than Wennberg

I could see that being a potential Shenn for JVR situation again, I think Wennberg has the much higher ceiling if we can sort him out
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They have 3 RHD already signed though (Jones, Savard, and Nutivaara) ... Would he be that much use to them?
 
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BertCorbeau said:
They have 3 RHD already signed though (Jones, Savard, and Nutivaara) ... Would he be that much use to them?
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Looking at that Bert, no he wouldn't, Wennberg for Zaitsev is about the only deal I could think of that would make sense from our POV

There's no way in hell we can eat 4.9M without sending some serious money back to them
 
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BertCorbeau said:
They have 3 RHD already signed though (Jones, Savard, and Nutivaara) ... Would he be that much use to them?
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Kiwi said:
Looking at that Bert, no he wouldn't, Wennberg for Zaitsev is about the only deal I could think of that would make sense from our POV

There's no way in hell we can eat 4.9M without sending some serious money back to them
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Minor detail but Nutivaara is a left shot I believe, could just switch sides?

I don't know if the idea is a good idea but it was an idea, so maybe it works, maybe it doesn't :)
 
WTFMAN99 said:
Minor detail but Nutivaara is a left shot I believe, could just switch sides?

I don't know if the idea is a good idea but it was an idea, so maybe it works, maybe it doesn't :)
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You could but with Savard and Jones as top 4RD it probably won't matter that much

I'm sure there desperate to get Wennberg off the roster but I'm not sure how much money they would eat to make it happen

I wonder if they would retain enough to get him down to 3.5M then move him to us for bugger all?, that would be 5.4M over the life of his contract
 
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