Value of: Framework of a Auston Matthews trade?

[Legion34]

Not necessarily.

The other team would need to mange the cap better. I think we can all agree that he would be the best player on any team that would trade for him. There is no problem to pay him as such. The problem lies with their 2-5th best players on that team. They cant be 10+ like in Toronto.


3 guys all making 10+ at the same position is not a good idea....as we see in Toronto.

Are you predicting another pandemic that will cause a flat cap for 4 years?

 

[wintersej]

No your assumptions are awful. Any team trading for Matthews will ask to speak with his agent before handing over assets. Try to deal in reality not your own head.

Yes and they will not give up A+ assets AND give Matthews an A+ contract.

 

[RoadWarrior]

He’s a RFA who the Rangerscdesperatelynwant to sign.

He has a ton of value.

Less value without a contract though. He could be included in a package for Matthews or Marner.

The leafs need help on D.

 

[RoadWarrior]

How about no from Kings point of view.
Matthews proved many times for number of years that he is not difference maker during playoff time.
Matthews with possible 13-15 million contract is Toronto problem to have.


LA have assets to trade for Matthews, but no desire to make not needed trade.

Ownership in LA knows that Kopitar is nearing the end of his career and they need a replacement. Matthews grew up in the desert, is media savvy and could help market the team to southern Californians.

Matthews in LA is a great fit and the Kings have players that the leafs could utilize in return eliminating any cap issues.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Ultimately, you are trading just one year of control with a long resigning window. It's even hard to flip him again at the deadline because of NMC. Matthews has so much leverage. Just a dumb dumb contract. One thing Leafs have is the option to go eight years in a sign-and-trade, Matthews needs the team to make that work. He can probably get $95 M over 7 years as a free agent ($13.57) but make it $100 over 8 and your cap hit drops to $12.5 M. If he wants that extra year, he does need Toronto.

The risk with a sign and trade is that you may not get any takers then you’re stuck with a bloated almost buyout proof contract. Presumably the team on the other end would have some input in the negotiations on this. It is a risk but that extra year could be enticing for some teams.

 

[Lundell4Prez]

Bobrovsky for Matthews

 

[kinghock]

Ownership in LA knows that Kopitar is nearing the end of his career and they need a replacement. Matthews grew up in the desert, is media savvy and could help market the team to southern Californians.

Matthews in LA is a great fit and the Kings have players that the leafs could utilize in return eliminating any cap issues.

Market the team to southern Californians will not get better with Matthews there.
The hockey market is already established and it will not get better with help of mediocre playoff performer.
The only real impact on Kings will be erasing LA ability to have deep and talented roster needed for contending team.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Eichel had the injury issue, but he is better player if you are watching playoffs.
Matthews has no character to play in playoffs with any kind of success.

Even if Eichel isn't a better player, the Sabres had two things that the Leafs don't. 1. A GM and, more importantly, 2. Time.

The Sabres could wait for months to negotiate with teams and get a return they were happy enough with. The Leafs have five weeks.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Market the team to southern Californians will not get better with Matthews there.
The hockey market is already established and it will not get better with help of mediocre playoff performer.
The only real impact on Kings will be erasing LA ability to have deep and talented roster needed for contending team.

That’s your opinion. I doubt Kings management shares that view. LA won’t be a contender once Kopitar is gone so they need to replace him.

 

[kinghock]

That’s your opinion. I doubt Kings management shares that view. LA won’t be a contender once Kopitar is gone so they need to replace him.

I believe Kings management still believe that eventually Byfield will be number one center for Kings.
This another reason why Matthews is not needed at all.

 

[McVespa99]

The Leafs are almost certainly going to be taking money back in a deal.

Auston Matthews is the type of player that most teams will make the space for... even at $13-14m.

Im not sure about that. Unless a team already has a good chunk of cap space with pretty much a full team signed it wouldnt be easy to clear 13 million. That would be 2 guys like Drai and Kane for the Oilers. Or Kane, Rnh, and Hyman. A team would have trouble moving smaller pieces while still freeing up enough space. Im not saying it cant be done because obviously it could but at what expense?

 

[TS Quint]

Matthews said he will NOT before July 1.
That is no Beuno.

If that is his stance, he has to be dealt. Especially with the lack of success in playoffs.

Matthews is the only one I want back, but if he can’t get on board. He’s got to go.

But why would Matthews be more valuable to another contender than he is to the Leafs?

 

[PensandCaps]

Byfield has almost no value until he proves he can play at the NHL level and put up some atleast average numbers. Take him out and add a piece that actually has some value.

Act like Byfield wasn't putting up points towards the end of the year.

 

[desperateblue]

Perhaps they could get a decent package from Winnipeg
Ehlers and Connor would look great in blue and white

 

[Budz]

But why would Matthews be more valuable to another contender than he is to the Leafs?

Yikes, because trading for Matthews at 50@ is a hell of MPs t on your club for even a year.

Look at what some rentals for a couple months went for.

 

[molon labe]

A young, sure-thing - and a first round pick.

That's your basis. The details will elude everyone until / if it happened.

You're trading for-him as a one year thing with hopes of a future. You can't negotiate until July 1st and Toronto cannot wait that long because Matthews gains all the leverage. Same situation with Marner. You have a month to get a deal done either way.

I could see plenty of teams lining up for 1 year of Matthews / 2 years of Marner (again with hopes of extentions). The teams that make MOST sense are not super-youthful teams, rather teams that are a little older who have aging stars of their own for those guys to usher a new era with.

 

[Channelcat]

What is fair trade value for Auston Matthews?




Determining the fair trade value for a professional athlete like Auston Matthews, who is a highly talented and valuable player, can be a complex task. Several factors come into play, such as the player's skill level, age, contract status, performance, and market demand.
As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time data or the ability to predict future developments. However, as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, Auston Matthews is considered one of the premier young talents in the National Hockey League (NHL) and an elite goal scorer. He has a significant impact on the ice and is an integral part of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Considering his skill set, age, contract, and overall value, any trade involving Auston Matthews would likely require a substantial return for the Toronto Maple Leafs. This could include a combination of established NHL players, highly regarded prospects, high draft picks, and possibly additional assets.
Ultimately, the fair trade value for Auston Matthews would depend on various factors, including the specific needs and desires of both the Maple Leafs and any potential trade partners. It's worth noting that the dynamics of the NHL can change over time, and the perceived value of players can fluctuate based on their performance, contract situations, and market conditions.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

What is fair trade value for Auston Matthews?




Determining the fair trade value for a professional athlete like Auston Matthews, who is a highly talented and valuable player, can be a complex task. Several factors come into play, such as the player's skill level, age, contract status, performance, and market demand.
As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time data or the ability to predict future developments. However, as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, Auston Matthews is considered one of the premier young talents in the National Hockey League (NHL) and an elite goal scorer. He has a significant impact on the ice and is an integral part of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Considering his skill set, age, contract, and overall value, any trade involving Auston Matthews would likely require a substantial return for the Toronto Maple Leafs. This could include a combination of established NHL players, highly regarded prospects, high draft picks, and possibly additional assets.
Ultimately, the fair trade value for Auston Matthews would depend on various factors, including the specific needs and desires of both the Maple Leafs and any potential trade partners. It's worth noting that the dynamics of the NHL can change over time, and the perceived value of players can fluctuate based on their performance, contract situations, and market conditions.

This explains it. Most of the posters on HF are throwing out trade ideas via Chat GPT.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Whatever it is, it'll not feel like enough to leafs fan. And to be fair it's highly doubtful it will be equal value.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I believe Kings management still believe that eventually Byfield will be number one center for Kings.
This another reason why Matthews is not needed at all.

I believe you may believe that they believe Byfield may become a #1 center is make believe.

 

[PAZ]

Way less than Leaf’s fans think.

It’ll be closer to the Karlsson package than any of the packages listed here.

 

[29Potvin]

Even if Eichel isn't a better player, the Sabres had two things that the Leafs don't. 1. A GM and, more importantly, 2. Time.

The Sabres could wait for months to negotiate with teams and get a return they were happy enough with. The Leafs have five weeks.

Eichel had neck surgery and teams weren't sure how he would bounce back from that if at all, It also was 10mil per and a full NMC that kicked in this season.
The risk taking on Eichel at the time was much greater than a team trading Matthews now.

 

[Heldig]

Perhaps they could get a decent package from Winnipeg
Ehlers and Connor would look great in blue and white

Matthews is not signing in Winnipeg. So no chance the Jets make that trade.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

ya, no he doesn't. you pathetic haters want desperately to get behind the wheel of that narrative though I get it.

Realistically, Matthews has to either agree to an extension prior to July 1, or risk getting traded anywhere in the league. He's not going to want to deal with the media s*it storm for an entire season.

Matthews will be extended July 1.

Chill man, I'm not a Leaf's hater. If he gets traded he still has the power. When he is traded the team either sign him (his choice), keep him as a rental before he goes to FA where he'll get paid (his choice) or he says he won't re-sign there and that team then trades him as a rental, which he'd have control over where he goes.

I think he'll sign in Toronto but it'll be on his terms and for a silly figure, because he has an enormous amount if leverage.

 

[KingTech]

KINGS are not going to gut there team for him. If he wants to be in la he will sign a ufa contract period