Player Discussion: Former Bolts Thread

[These Are The Days]

I think Moser is less physical and might not have a bomb from the point, but his hockey IQ seems high and he doesn't make you scratch your head, ever, as opposed to every couple of games. I like having Moser on the team and I wasn't sure whether Serg's net presence last year was positive or negative due to his propensity for brain farts.

Well when it comes to Serge, just about every point of view was truthful. For every brain fart he had some great thing he'd do that made you forget. He could have moved to wing and there would be no knock on his brain farts vs great moments. Problem is he is a defender

 

[bov]

Sergachev is Utah's best player and the notion that he can't play defense is, and has been, utterly ridiculous. It was very obvious for a few years that he would go on to become a true #1 horse in the NHL eventually, it's no surprise at all to see him logging 25+ and succeeding now.

Moser is a pretty quiet, soft & steady d-man who has done fairly well for TB, but he is multiple tiers below Sergachev as a player. Geekie is the big prize here imo.

 

[Stammertime91]

Sergachev is Utah's best player and the notion that he can't play defense is, and has been, utterly ridiculous. It was very obvious for a few years that he would go on to become a true #1 horse in the NHL eventually, it's no surprise at all to see him logging 25+ and succeeding now.

Moser is a pretty quiet, soft & steady d-man who has done fairly well for TB, but he is multiple tiers below Sergachev as a player. Geekie is the big prize here imo.

All true. The biggest plus was the caps saving. I'm glad Sergachev is succeeding. It would feel like a loss if the dude was miserable and failing but I'm glad he's doing well.

 

[Sky04]

We got a 24 year old defenseman who plays 20+mins a night at <3.5M while in our cup window and the prize is Geekie? Give your head a shake. The prize here is getting someone at less than half the cost of Sergachev and is better in the role, Geekie is a plus down the road.

 

[Soul Assumption]

We got a 24 year old defenseman who plays 20+mins a night at <3.5M while in our cup window and the prize is Geekie? Give your head a shake. The prize here is getting someone at less than half the cost of Sergachev and is better in the role, Geekie is a plus down the road.

Moser is not better "in the role" whatever that means. Repeating the same nonsense over and over again doesn't make it true. The fact is that Tampa with Mcdonagh, Moser and Geekie is the same 0.500 team as last season with Sergachev who barely even played. And the cup window is closed, at least until more significant changes happen starting with the head coach.

 

[aylib]

Serg looks amazing on highlight reels and on paper. Watching him day in n day out and noticing all the warts is a different story.

 

[Sky04]

Moser is not better "in the role" whatever that means. Repeating the same nonsense over and over again doesn't make it true. The fact is that Tampa with Mcdonagh, Moser and Geekie is the same 0.500 team as last season with Sergachev who barely even played. And the cup window is closed, at least until more significant changes happen starting with the head coach.

Except it is true but yes continue to ignore the contract as well. They're the same? clearly not, goal differential is significantly better. Too many crybabies this early in the season.

 

[DFC]

Serg looks amazing on highlights and on paper. Watching him day and and day out and noticing all the warts is a different story.

Pretty much this. I buy that he can be the best player on a bad team. But man, he could be frustrating here.

 

[aylib]

Pretty much this. I buy that he can be the best player on a bad team. But man, he could be frustrating here.

Maybe like a less extreme version of EK65 in SJ

 

[RussianGuyovich]

As always the HF hive mind will love moser, until they don’t and they get hyper focused on a new shiny trinket. Same as it ever was.

 

[ccman68]

Sergachev is Utah's best player and the notion that he can't play defense is, and has been, utterly ridiculous. It was very obvious for a few years that he would go on to become a true #1 horse in the NHL eventually, it's no surprise at all to see him logging 25+ and succeeding now.

Moser is a pretty quiet, soft & steady d-man who has done fairly well for TB, but he is multiple tiers below Sergachev as a player. Geekie is the big prize here imo.

Good for him that he has found that level, but he had 7 years with us and was never anything close to elite. Our defense went to crap when we chose Sergachev over Mcdonagh and now it's back to being good after we corrected that mistake. Sergachev could become the next Bobby Orr for Utah and I wouldn't give a shit. Here's this year's defense compared to last year at the same time.

 

[LordStanlersCup]

 

[bov]

Serg looks amazing on highlight reels and on paper. Watching him day in n day out and noticing all the warts is a different story.

Sorry no disrespect but I truly have no idea how people share this opinion. Day in & day out, he was clear as day going to become a bonafide #1 d-man, long time coming. Literally one of the most obvious cases in Lightning history. Aside from a small sliver of his career marred by a broken leg (plus another LBI in the same season), he has done nothing but improve in every facet of the game year after year to establish himself as a top player. It is not surprising, it's not some recent improvement, he is not bad defensively, and TB fans need to cope with the fact they traded one of the best young defensemen in the NHL.

He was an absolute stud all along, and it was painfully f***ing obvious to anyone with a set of eyes. That's why he is succeeding now with more opportunity than he ever had with TB.

JBB got a nice return and gained cap space, but let's see how the LHD situation looks in 1-2 years.

 

[Stammertime91]

He looks miserable there. Shit.

 

[Sky04]

Sorry no disrespect but I truly have no idea how people share this opinion. Day in & day out, he was clear as day going to become a bonafide #1 d-man, long time coming. Literally one of the most obvious cases in Lightning history. Aside from a small sliver of his career marred by a broken leg (plus another LBI in the same season), he has done nothing but improve in every facet of the game year after year to establish himself as a top player. It is not surprising, it's not some recent improvement, he is not bad defensively, and TB fans need to cope with the fact they traded one of the best young defensemen in the NHL.

He was an absolute stud all along, and it was painfully f***ing obvious to anyone with a set of eyes. That's why he is succeeding now with more opportunity than he ever had with TB.

JBB got a nice return and gained cap space, but let's see how the LHD situation looks in 1-2 years.

It was clear as day he needed to be traded except for like 2 people on this board

 

[The Macho King]

Eh I didn't want him traded but made sense from a roster construction perspective.

We tried to bargain bin the Shutdown LHD for a couple of seasons to increasingly terrible results. Bringing in McDonagh and getting space plus prospect made sense, but Sergachev was good for us.

 

[DFC]

He looks miserable there. Shit.

"I really miss Nikita Kucherov."

 

[Meuracas]

He looks miserable there. Shit.

What I read between the lines is ”Andrew Brunette”

 

[These Are The Days]

I know Stamkos is completely washed at even strength but f*** would that power play ever be doing us wonders right now.