mjhfb
Easier from up here
+124 in a single season, at only 22 when most D are still learning the game.
For comparison Makar, the best now, is +24.
For comparison Makar, the best now, is +24.
Forget Gretzky...Records that will never be beat
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InsideLaineBOOM
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Laine's pace this season would have him at 30 PP goals for a full season. He can get close to 34 next season if he stays healthy.
MarkusKetterer
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David Bruce Banner
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Never get broken until we have a giant expansion again... something along the lines of adding 15 or more teams over the next 4 seasons and then have a Hutson level rookie show up on a top team.
Yup, that was in November 2018. It was a month where he set a record (of sorts) that I doubt will ever be broken. He scored three hattricks in three different countries (Canada, USA, and Finland) in one month.
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Some of the records in this thread being floated around are one-off, rare events that may have required a specific set of circumstances in order to happen. Just using the examples of Laine's 5 goals in 5 shots or Fleury's 3 shorthanded goals in a game, while those are rare to have happened, I wouldn't bet on them never happening again or even being topped.
Records like some of Gretzky's scoring records, or Patrick Roy's 151 playoff wins, on those ones I'd say it's pretty safe to assume they'll never be broken.
Records like some of Gretzky's scoring records, or Patrick Roy's 151 playoff wins, on those ones I'd say it's pretty safe to assume they'll never be broken.
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Doug Harvey has seven. And would’ve had more had the trophy existed before then.
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I don't expect to see anyone break David Ayres' career wins record for Zamboni drivers.
GreatSaveEssensa
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Brian Bouchers record of 5 consecutive shoutouts in 2002-3 season with Phoenix will be another tough one to break.
jigglysquishy
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He wouldn't have won more.
He didn't win the first Norris (1953-54). The three prior years were locks for Red Kelly, who finished first in defensive AS voting.
Red Kelly lost out on 3 possible 4 Norris Trophies. But Harvey was too young to miss out.
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1st team all star three times. He absolutely could've (and probably would've) won more.
jigglysquishy
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What years?
Kelly finished ahead of him in 1951, 1952, 1953. Then won the Norris in 1954. Then it was the Harvey era.
Kevinsane
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Alexander Semin beat an opponent up without throwing a punch. I doubt we’ll ever see that again.
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Unless they greed out and add a couple games to the regular season...
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Keep saying it instead of addressing the AS voting info. That will certainly be convincing.
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Harvey was 3 years older than Red Kelly. Harvey born in 1924, Kelly in 1927
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Records dependent on an obsolete element of the game are the only ones I would consider unbreakable.
Safe to say the top 100 or so fighters all time won’t have their # of bouts surpassed. Goalie starts/wins in a season is another one.
Safe to say the top 100 or so fighters all time won’t have their # of bouts surpassed. Goalie starts/wins in a season is another one.
jigglysquishy
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In 1951 Red Kelly finished 3rd in Hart voting (first amongst D). Harvey did not get any votes. Kelly finished 1st in AS voting (receiving every 1st place vote). Harvey was not on the AS team, placing behind Quackenbush, Thomson, and Reise.
In 1952 Red Kelly finished 5th in Hart voting (first amongst D). Harvey did not get any votes. Kelly finished 1st in AS voting. Harvey finished 2nd in AS voting.
In 1953 Kelly finished 3rd in Hart voting (first amongst D). Harvey did not get any votes. Kelly finished 1st in AS voting. Harvey finished 2nd in AS voting.
In 1954 Kelly finished second in Hart voting (first amongst D). Kelly won the Norris. Kelly finished 1st in AS voting. Harvey finished 2nd in AS voting.
The pattern is pretty clear. It was the same guys voting on it.
Red Kelly finished ahead in AS voting and Hart voting 1951, 1952, 1953, and 1954. He won the inaugural Norris in 1954.
Doug Harvey was not beating Red Kelly for the Norris in 1951, 1952, 1953 (and lost in 1954).
CDN24
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But in 1956 Kelly finished 4th in Hart voting 1st among D and only 3rd in the Norris voting. We cannot say with any degree of certainty who would have won the Norris in the years it did not exist based on voting for other trophies
jigglysquishy
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The Hart voting won't align perfectly, but the AS voting and Norris voting is a near 1 to 1 in the era. And Kelly runs away with it all 3 years.
Kelly was widely considered the best defensemen in the world 1951-1954.
There's zero evidence that Harvey was winning any of those 3 Norrises. Especially 1951 when Harvey wasn't seen in that category of defencemen yet.
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InsideLaineBOOM
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Who has the record for the biggest head in NHL history? Probably Olli Jokinen? And I am talking about the actual size of the head. Probably the volume/cm³ is the correct way to compare the head sizes, as they come in all shapes
