Forget Gretzky...Records that will never be beat

[pi314]

Happy Gilmore took off his skate and tried to stab someone.

 

[PaulD]

Except those wouldn't be very hard to beat? Just infract every time you go onto the ice.

Those aren't even real records. Real records benefit the team. Being bad isn't a record.

57 years without getting to the Cup Final has to be a record. No?

 

[carjackmalone]

Billy Smith 19 consecutive playoff series wins

Mike Rantanen elite Nhler playing for 3 teams one season

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Bud Kudelski???

Oops lol sorry, BOB Kudelski.

 

[j c petit]

Most pims is like most pucks shit over the glass. No one cares

I would think the poor fans sitting "over the glass" would care a great deal about that.

 

[psycat]

This is the most unbeatable record in all of professional sports, IMO... hockey for sure. Mostly because of how the position has evolved.

Glenn Hall is 93, still alive and kicking today. Obviously an endurable human. Very nice man... I know his son and granddaughter.

Another record I like to quote when these threads pop up is Bill Mosienko's hattrick in 21 seconds.

Edit: I see @habsfan44 just beat me to the punch with the Mosienko hattrick.

Could happen with advancements in bioengineering and cyborgesque tech, already had stuff like Pistorious legs and that was awhile back, could look very different in 50(let alone 100) years. Like some pill for
just fully recovering from physical exhaustion. Then again one could argue it's barely even humans playing at that point I suppose.

 

[Grifter3511]

Except those wouldn't be very hard to beat? Just infract every time you go onto the ice.

Those aren't even real records. Real records benefit the team. Being bad isn't a record.

How long do you think a player would last on an NHL roster if their sole purpose was to take a penalty every time they stepped on the ice?

 

[Kudelski37]

Oops lol sorry, BOB Kudelski.

Thanks!

 

[chaz4hockey]

Not player related but I’d suggest Islanders winning 19 straight playoff series from ‘79-‘80 through ‘84-‘85 will never be attained in this cap era.

 

[tiburon12]

Here's an obscure one that might hold for a long time:

Logan Couture has the NHL record for rookie-season road game-winning-goals scored with 7.

The NHL record for rookie GWG is 9, so that Couture had 7 on the road is wild.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

Orrs defensive scoring record 139 points as a D

Brodeurs shutout record 125

Haseks Vezina haul (6) and career #s save pct .922 GAA 2.20

Lidstroms 7 Norris trophies

Gretzky's 50 in 39 and 92 goal in a season

There's some insane records set since just the 70s that in the modern era are deemed untouchable but going further back as people pointed out, there's others that are so insane to think about that it's just not even considerable based on today's game and player management

not a norris record

 

[Kahvi]

Highest-scoring set of brothers in the NHL are Wayne and Brent Gretzky. Brent contributed 4 points towards this total.

I thought Sutter's were the highest scoring set of brothers, as in two or more brothers. Gretzky's are the highest scoring pair of brothers.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I think a random one that will be very hard to beat is Mike Sillinger playing for 12 different NHL teams.

Really? This seems like the most beatable record in this thread.

 

[wunderpanda]

every record will be broken in the next 20 years. some will seem valid, some will be the result of rules changes (suspensions will be counted as penalty minutes instead of games, everyone touching the puck before a goal gets an assist, shootout goals count as goals)

 

[JAK]

I think a random one that will be very hard to beat is Mike Sillinger playing for 12 different NHL teams.

I want to see someone at the end of their career, ask all the GMs to do him a solid and let him play for every team that year. Need someone who is funny, and good enough.

Ovechkin? He loves collecting sticks, why not add game played jerseys of his own.

Everyone always talks about Gretzky's records and they will never be beat(until now) but how about two other records that I can 100% guarantee no one will ever beat?

Tiger Williams 3971 Penalty minutes all-time
Dave Schutz 472 penalty minutes in a single season

Is it safe to say these will never be beat? Is there even a point to talk about it? Perhaps dubious records but these two are a lock to never be beat.

Need a new scoring mega talent that celebrates each goal with a fight.
50G + 250PIM x 16 seasons.
Break the scoring and PIM record on the same goal.

 

[slybel]

Bah, everything can be beaten except the PIMs, fights records...

I miss the 70s, 80s hockey...

 

[Nathaniel]

Lemieux 13 SH goals in one season

 

[bobholly39]

Everyone always talks about Gretzky's records and they will never be beat(until now) but how about two other records that I can 100% guarantee no one will ever beat?

Tiger Williams 3971 Penalty minutes all-time
Dave Schutz 472 penalty minutes in a single season

Is it safe to say these will never be beat? Is there even a point to talk about it? Perhaps dubious records but these two are a lock to never be beat.

472 penalty minutes in a single season seems doable to me, especially with some potential rule changes to penalties. It would take a couple of flukes for it to happen maybe (ie, major incidents, etc), but I don't think it's necessary impossible.

3971 is a lot, but again rule changes to change penalties doesn't seem that far fetched. Maybe more 5 & 10 minute penalties - who knows that they don't introduce a 20 or 30 minute penalty in future, or that they don't start counting game misconducts as "60 minutes".

Seems like it would be pretty tough for Bud Kudelski and Jimmy Carson’s shared record of 86 games played in a season to be broken.

Again, no. Very easy for NHL to bump schedule up to 84, and eventually 86+ games in a year. I thought I heard a rumor they might go to 84 next year, or soon? 86 will eventually be matched/fall.

Patrick Roy's 151 playoff wins

Again disagree on this one. If nothing else - with NHL constantly growing, it's likely we expand the playoff format soon. Instead of 4 rounds, 5 rounds, maybe a play-in, etc. I think in the next ~20-30 years, we'll be seeing more playoff wins easier to accumulate, and this will fall.

I don't think 10 points in a single game will be beat, at least not in our lifetimes.

10 is a really high number, obviously. But - it's also just random luck. It may not fall for 100 years, but Auston Matthews could score 11 this week. Or Pastrnak. Or Bedard. Or - anyone, is my point.

It's much easier to have a fluke over one game, than many.

I agree with poster #2 on this thread. The one record that seems completely untouchable is Glenn Hall playing in 502 consecutive games as a goalie. I can't imagine we'll ever see a goalie play all 82 games in a season, let alone ~6-7 years in a row.

As for OP - Gretzky has 2 records that to me seem more unbeatable than most, that would rank very high on a list of "most unbeatable records":

163 assists in a single season. No one has ever come remotely close, and I don't see any realistic scenario where that changes in next ~50 years. Maybe a player more talented than Gretzky comes by in a perfect storm of an even higher scoring era than Gretzky's, and beats it, but seems extremely unlikely.

1963 career assists. As of one year ago - (McDavid & Kucherov each scored exactly 100 assists last year) - only twice in history had a player other than Gretzky surpassed 100 assists in a season (Lemieux 114 in 89, Orr 102 in 71). For 1963 assists to fall - a player would have to not just top 100 assists in a single season once, but rather do so 19 seasons in a row - and then still come back for a 20th season and score 64 assists. It's a mind boggling career total from Gretzky, that won't be beat.

Gretzky's point records (2857 career, 215 single season) are also up there in difficulty, but they're both more beatable than the assist numbers to me.

 

[bobholly39]

Could happen with advancements in bioengineering and cyborgesque tech, already had stuff like Pistorious legs and that was awhile back, could look very different in 50(let alone 100) years. Like some pill for
just fully recovering from physical exhaustion. Then again one could argue it's barely even humans playing at that point I suppose.

I think a goalie "could" player 82 games. As in - physically endure, they could swing it. Proper training, durability, etc. But just because they "could", doesn't mean they ever "will".

- Increased injury risk
- Not enough rest/doesn't stay as fresh
- Gets tired/winded by playoffs, doesn't perform well there

So many reasons why it's a bad idea.

With so much talent, and goalie talent specifically - in the world today, it doesn't ever make sense for a team to play a goalie that much. You might see some extreme cases of a goalie playing ~65-70+ games in a season, but they'll almost always get a rest. It's just better for team results. And it's so easy to find a reliable backup goalie who can come in for ~20 games minimum in a season.

 

[bobholly39]

Happy Gilmore took off his skate and tried to stab someone.

Pfft.

Happy Gilmore 2 is just around the corner on Netflix this summer. This will not only be replicated, it'll happen in only a few months!

 

[Voight]

I don't think 10 points in a single game will be beat, at least not in our lifetimes.

Sam Gagner came close tho with 8 points.

Gretzky & Coffey also had 8 point games.

 

[Voight]

Calder throphy kind of sucks imo, same with Selänne, he played 4 years senior hockey before NHL

He only played two years (plus 11 games in another season) in Finlands top league, which really shouldn't be held against him. Thats typically the path for Euro players (especially back then when teams were still somewhat weary of bringing them over "too early").

Forsberg for example played 4 seasons in the SHL, Kurri played three in Finland's top league etc.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Again, no. Very easy for NHL to bump schedule up to 84, and eventually 86+ games in a year. I thought I heard a rumor they might go to 84 next year, or soon? 86 will eventually be matched/fall.

If the NHL adds an 84 game season I guess it could be broken more easily. Personally I think the NHL should go in the opposite direction and play LESS games, but I guess it's to be determined.

 

[PamBallam]

Mario's 5 goals 5 different ways. If even the Great One didn't do it, I doubt anyone else ever will.

 

[ricky0034]

Glenn Hall started and completed 502 consecutive regular-season games.

yeah this is basically the Hockey equivalent of those Cy Young career games/innings records where it's not only difficult but also nobody nowadays would even be allowed to try for them to prevent their arm from falling off