OT: Football Thread

[trueblue30nyr]

OK, so I needed a day to recover, but that game was worse than the Giants game. So glad the tickets were gifted and I didn't spend actual money on that. The OL is terrible. Wilson is terrible. The coaching (OC!!!!) is terrible. It is a combination of all three. Just...sigh. Had a good time at the stadium otherwise, though.

To the question of fandom, my dad brought me up a Rangers/Jets fan and we're all from Manhattan. No one has ever lived in any other borough. My family is mostly Jets (one Giants fan), mostly Mets (two Yankees fans), and the one everyone agrees on is the Rangers.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Giants Oline has 3 solid linemen but Evan Neal and a couple of others have been flat out dangerous.

 

[17futurecap]

Zach stinks and the line stinks. He’s fine if he can throw in under 2.5 seconds to his first read, the problem is mass panic sets in when his first read is covered. He also looks like he has horse blinders on, he never feels pressure.

 

[StreetHawk]

Giants Oline has 3 solid linemen but Evan Neal and a couple of others have been flat out dangerous.

Neal is just shocking. Like trending towards Alex Leatherwood. New regime hated him and cut him. Then the Bears got rid of him too.
Neal was supposed to be the OT who was solid at both run and pass block. Carolina got the road grater as the run blocker, while Seattle got the best pass blocking OT.

Alabama has produced good OL, but some stinkers as well in the past decade with Saban. Willis in Cleveland is a hit, Dickerson with Philly, but the Jonah Williams for Cincy has been injured a lot and they bring in Olando Brown, Leatherwood and Neal. These are top 2 round picks, not day 3 guys.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Neal is just shocking. Like trending towards Alex Leatherwood. New regime hated him and cut him. Then the Bears got rid of him too.
Neal was supposed to be the OT who was solid at both run and pass block. Carolina got the road grater as the run blocker, while Seattle got the best pass blocking OT.

Alabama has produced good OL, but some stinkers as well in the past decade with Saban. Willis in Cleveland is a hit, Dickerson with Philly, but the Jonah Williams for Cincy has been injured a lot and they bring in Olando Brown, Leatherwood and Neal. These are top 2 round picks, not day 3 guys.

Imagine how dangerous Neal would be if he still played Left Tackle. Its shocking he was drafted #7

 

[StreetHawk]

Imagine how dangerous Neal would be if he still played Left Tackle. Its shocking he was drafted #7

He was rated in that trio of OT with the Cross and the NC State kid who went to Carolina. I think every mock draft had him going before the teens. OT is a premium position. Like I said, Bama has produced some hits, but some misses on the OL high in the draft.

 

[NickyFotiu]

He was rated in that trio of OT with the Cross and the NC State kid who went to Carolina. I think every mock draft had him going before the teens. OT is a premium position. Like I said, Bama has produced some hits, but some misses on the OL high in the draft.

I think Joe wanted the guy in Carolina but had them as 1a and 1b

 

[East Coast Bias]

The Jets OL sucks and the injuries are insane but it’s not an excuse for Wilson. He sucks. He’s sucked since day 1 and never gotten better.

He can’t read a defense. He’s got the same numbers he’s had for 3 years. He doesn’t improve. He’s scared to throw deep. He checks down and wants out.

He’s not going to wake up. He is who he is. He could have the all time best OL out there and it won’t matter bc he’s checking down or bolting in 2 seconds

 

[NickyFotiu]

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[Bob Richards]

Imagine how dangerous Neal would be if he still played Left Tackle. Its shocking he was drafted #7

I don’t even know what to say for it either. He was the player I wanted at that spot. I thought it was a good pick. The NFL universe praised it as a good pick.

It’s crazy that it isn’t even a case of a guy not as good as you’d want. It’s that Neal is straight up terrible. Like an active detriment to the offense.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don’t even know what to say for it either. He was the player I wanted at that spot. I thought it was a good pick. The NFL universe praised it as a good pick.

It’s crazy that it isn’t even a case of a guy not as good as you’d want. It’s that Neal is straight up terrible. Like an active detriment to the offense.

He can have a dozen or so decent snaps especially running plays but gets totally lost 2-5 times a game pass blocking to the point it becomes dangerous. Bad ballance. Bad technique. Bad play recognition. Tyre Phillips a practice squad player looks safer at right tackle then Neal the last 1.5 seasons. Will he turn out to be a waste as the #7? Can a good coach salvage his career? Can he be traded for even a 3rd? Huge disappointed so far. A QB killer.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I think Joe wanted the guy in Carolina but had them as 1a and 1b

Doesn't he also suck?

 

[NickyFotiu]

Doesn't he also suck?

So far but still may be better than Neal. Like a D minus grade instead of an F.

 

[Salsa Shark]

The jets have scored 3 TDs on offense in their last 4 games. None on Monday. Against the Giants a 50 yard checkdown to Hall with some woeful tackling by the Giants. The score against the Eagles where they ceded the endzone. Hall ran one for 70 against Denver.

Not even close to being an NFL offense

 

[Bob Richards]

Thomas down again.

Is this my least favorite season? Possibly. Tough competition with 2021 and 2017.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Thomas down again.

Is this my least favorite season? Possibly. Tough competition with 2021 and 2017.

I'm not happy about injury, especially for such an important and injury prone player but is this injury really THAT big of a deal given how losing is way better than winning now?

 

[klingsor]

I’m surprised Giants didn’t take a knee on 4th down.

 

[mrmovies779]

Great play call on 4th and 2 Giants

I’m surprised Giants didn’t take a knee on 4th down.

Or punted Lol

 

[Bob Richards]

I'm not happy about injury, especially for such an important and injury prone player but is this injury really THAT big of a deal given how losing is way better than winning now?

I would prefer our best player not get hurt.

 

[klingsor]

2 and 15. Book it!

 

[I Eat Crow]

How is that not targeting lol

 

[klingsor]

How is that not targeting lol

Why do I think the Giants’ coaching staff doesn’t even care.?

I’ve been a fan for 65 years and this is the worst.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Cards need to win this f***ing game.

Giants need to maximize this tank job.

Gotta have a top 2 pick if you are deploying a QB who still lives with his parents

 

[Bob Richards]

Cards need to win this f***ing game.

Giants need to maximize this tank job.

Gotta have a top 2 pick if you are deploying a QB who still lives with his parents

In this house we support the Cardinals and Bears and by extension of the Bears, the Panthers lmfao.

 

[Bob Richards]

The Giants put up 27 yards in that half.