Flyers STH Town Hall Event - Sat, March 4th at 1:30PM

[TB87]

Damn cheerleaders, damn kids, damn players not being on 6ABC Morning shows!

Ah…the real hard-hitting questions. Sounds like Coatesy took it upon himself to be the fan police for this event eh? What a wenis

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I still cant get over how Daniel Briere of all people mentioned size as the first thing in any topic he talked about today (from what I have seen). The guy who was the epitome of "you dont have to be 7 feet 7"

I think the first thing he said was speed and skill and then as @GKJ was patiently waiting for… culture which is where Nic came in.

 

[Starat327]

You right, you right.

GET OUT OF MY OLD SEATS!

Garbage Ass clout chaser

Ah…the real hard-hitting questions. Sounds like Coatesy took it upon himself to be the fan police for this event eh? What a wenis

Coatesy has always been a giant piece of shit, so that isn't surprising.

 

[deadhead]

To be fair, what's Briere gonna say, "I'm working for a loser?"
The fact that he listed skill and speed before culture is a good sign.

 

[kudymen]

lickballs.gif

 

[deadhead]

If you're in Briere's shoes, right now you're keeping a low profile, if they replace Fletcher with you, you don't want it to look like you stabbed him in the back, and more likely, if they bring in a new GM, you'd like to keep your job, so you definitely don't want to look like you undercut your boss.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

To be fair, what's Briere gonna say, "I'm working for a loser?"
The fact that he listed skill and speed before culture is a good sign.

The fact that he singled out Deslauriers himself is a MASSIVE red flag.

He’s one of the same.

The idea that he’s anything else is pure fantasy.

 

[Magua]

Do the world a favor, yeah, and stop. No one wants to hear this kind of shit right now. Our troll quotient is completely full.

I don’t think he’s trolling to be fair. In fact, I think Chuckles having some sort of trade app the team designed, which can be fine in theory, makes perfect sense with everything else the team does. It’s like the Flyers having the largest analytics department, tied with the Leafs. Or using a consultation firm for a coaching hire. It makes them appear cutting edge and modern — blank check! — but it’s just a facade. They might even convince themselves they’re a modernized front office. Because they’re inbred nitwits.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don’t care that Fletcher has some app that tells him player value. I care that he used that as some type of justification for doing what he did.

Fletcher consistently tries to cite some modern thing for justification for his stupid ideas.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I don’t care that Fletcher has some app that tells him player value. I care that he used that as some type of justification for doing what he did.

He didn’t necessarily use it as a justification. He was asked about what the Flyers do different than other teams and he brought up Dave Scott funding the analytic department and then mentioned the app and brought up you can input JVR and it’ll spit out the value.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

He didn’t necessarily use it as a justification. He was asked about what the Flyers do different than other teams and he brought up Dave Scott funding the analytic department and then mentioned the app and brought up you can input JVR and it’ll spit out the value.

Fair enough. The Flyers try to pretend they’re cutting edge when they’re nothing cutting edge. It’s all window dressing.

 

[Magua]

you can input JVR and it’ll spit out the value

The other GMs must’ve gotten an error message.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Was this app developed when the Risto trade happened or did he uninstall it?

 

[GKJ]

I did not cheer Briere btw. My secret handshake comment had reason.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I did not cheer Briere btw. My secret handshake comment had reason.

I did but only because he’s not in the big chair yet.

 

[GKJ]

I did but only because he’s not in the big chair yet.

If I really would’ve went off, that’s the road I would’ve went down. Probably if I got to business ops. You guys gonna fire Chuck and promote people ‘learning’ from him.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They gaslight the hell out of the fans but in all honesty most of the fans that attend these type of events are easily the most gullible within the fan base. It’s a lot of Jamey Baskows types. So on that hand I don’t necessarily blame them because it works with that crowd.

 

[Dicky Dangles]

you can input JVR and it’ll spit out the value.

Cuck swallows the value.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Is there a coles notes version of the BS that went on here?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

can we put to rest the very idea that Briere is any different from the old boys club finaly..

hes EXACTLY the same problem Philly has always had.

the 1970s are dead and gone! and so is that NHL

 

[GKJ]

Remember the dude who was happy we traded for Lemieux and begged Fletcher not to go woke.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They stopped saying culture culture culture and now it is big size big size

They don't care about size though!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Anyone who thinks Briere is a fresh start doesn't have a clue.

If he were any different from the cronies he wouldn't be in his position. They're too intellectually soft to tolerate dissent. Especially reasoned dissent. They can't handle it.

 

[deadhead]

Fletcher has the MBA mindset.

Worked with these guys, but didn't understand them until I went to the Sloan school website and downloaded a bunch of class outlines and reading lists.

MBAs get fed a smattering of everything, so they read about different approaches, 2 articles at a time, but never go in depth - so they sound really good in sound bytes b/c they know just enough to be dangerous. So they'll talk about "crossing the chasm" and "synergies" and other buzz words but never take the time to read 15-20 articles on a subject, including critiques of the articles they read for their classes, so they don't really understand the concepts and their limitations. But they talk real purty in meetings and give nice bullet points in Powerpoint.

And that's what Fletcher sounds like, "we use analytics" but you know he hasn't read up on the strengths and limitations of analytics and their limited predictive value. He talks about culture, but probably couldn't point you to a study that says culture actually has an impact on winning. And so on, he's got the cliches down pat, but seems to lack any sense of a deeper understanding of the game and strategy. Because he talks to "hockey guys" and they engage in group think and that convinces them they're right b/c they're all in agreement.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If you're in Briere's shoes, right now you're keeping a low profile, if they replace Fletcher with you, you don't want it to look like you stabbed him in the back, and more likely, if they bring in a new GM, you'd like to keep your job, so you definitely don't want to look like you undercut your boss.

You do not need to defend everything management does.