Flyers 2017 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[Embiid]

Hey, I won't say anything but seems like Hyka will be making Vegas this season

I did see that!

 

[Magua]

I don't get this Kosorenkov thing at all.

He was clearly better than several of the prospects in camp.

Every game I saw he did some good things and was highly noticeable. What did they want a 19 year old to do, score a hat trick against NHL players?

I don't get this. I just don't. Why keep him so long then and have him attend all the camps and put on the charade? You can't tell me they didn't have a good idea before he even attended the July camp that they wanted to sign him or not. No way playing against NHL players in a single game or two changed that. And he played pretty well too to seal the deal seemingly. Pretty WTF.

 

[Curufinwe]

They must have decided that he wasn't worth one of the 50 roster spots given the forwards they already have drafted but haven't signed yet.

Kase, Marody
Allison, Twarynski, Laczysnki, Salinitri
Strome, Sushko, Cates, Lycksell

Maybe Twarynski will be signed before he gets cut.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Twarynski was sent to the AHL camp - wouldn't that imply he will be under contract?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

With the amount of incoming talent that we drafted I can get saving a contract spot if Kosorenkov didn't blow them away. It's likely they don't think of him as anything more than a bottom 6er and we have a huge surplus of those players. I totally understand saving the contract spot if that was their thinking even though he did impress when I saw him.

yeah, its not like this team is void of forward prospects. would of been nice to get a kid signed for free. But given the forward prospect depth I am not going to get to worked up over it. Wish the kid luck going forward.

 

[Curufinwe]

Rubtsov was sent back to the Q, too.

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/fly...y-18-players--philadelphia-flyers/c-291235958

The Philadelphia Flyers announced today that they have reduced their training camp roster by 18 players, according to general manager Ron Hextall.

The following five players have been returned to their junior team:

(F) Connor Bunnaman (Kitchener - OHL)
(F) Pascal Laberge (Victoriaville - QMJHL)
(F) Ivan Kosorenkov (Victoriaville - QMJHL)
(F) German Rubtsov (Chicoutimi - QMJHL)
(G) Carter Hart (Everett - WHL)

The following 13 players have been assigned to the club's AHL affiliate, the Lehigh Valley Phantoms, Training Camp:

(F) Nicolas Aube-Kubel
(F) Radel Fazleev
(F) Tyrell Goulbourne
(F) Danick Martel
(F) Carsen Twarynski
(F) Mikhail Vorobyev
(D) James de Haas
(D) Mark Friedman
(D) Maxim Lamarche
(D) Philippe Myers
(D) Reece Willcox
(G) Leland Irving
(G) John Muse

 

[Magua]

They must have decided that he wasn't worth one of the 50 roster spots given the forwards they already have drafted but haven't signed yet.

Kase, Marody
Allison, Twarynski, Laczysnki, Salinitri
Strome, Sushko, Cates, Lycksell

Maybe Twarynski will be signed before he gets cut.

They have the roster spots, and I imagine they're losing some contracts after this year. I think they're not signing Salinitri or at least don't plan to. They sent him down earlier than anyone in his class. Guys like Strome, Sushko (who it's still too early to think about) are a year further off. Cates could be 3-4 years away. Lycksell too. Again, they had the room and he outclassed some of the prospects we already have, including someone signed to an ELC who probably doesn't deserve one right now. It's not end of the world, but if you believe in lottery tickets, he seemed like a decent one. It's more confusing than anything because I don't know what else they wanted him to do this camp.

Twarynski does seem to be getting signed. And if he's in AHL camp, guess that implies he is actually going to the AHL this year. I don't know what the rush is. He didn't look out of place, but he basically didn't do a single thing with the puck. He just hit some people and forechecked. Where is the room for him on the Phantoms when last year you had much better, older players like NAK and Fazleev as 4th liners/scratches?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Twarynski was sent to the AHL camp - wouldn't that imply he will be under contract?

Could be under an AHL contract. They tried to get Goulbourne to do it years ago but opted to go back to juniors instead.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Did they really not cut Brennan?

 

[Curufinwe]

Did they really not cut Brennan?

O'Neill and Alt are also still up, so they have 11 dmen.

 

[MCoster]

Who are the 36 still up?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Curufinwe]

Lots of Flyers stuff in the latest 31 thoughts.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jason-blake-knows-well-whats-ahead-brian-boyle/

15. Finally on Philadelphia, Hakstol talked about some of the pre-season battles. He likes Scott Laughton’s mentality early, then added, “Somebody — or a couple of guys — are going to have to adjust to a different role if Nolan Patrick proves ready to be here. If he’s going to make this team, we’ve decided he makes it as a centre.” So no hiding him on the wing to start his NHL career.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Did they really not cut Brennan?

They didn't send down any guys who have to clear waivers.

 

[Appleyard]

So this is who is left in camp now?

Lindblom - Giroux - Voracek
Weal - Couturier - Konecny
Filppula - Patrick - Simmonds
Raffl - Lehtera - Weise
Leier - Laughton - Read
Bardreau - Vecchione - McDonald
Carey - Knight - Varone

Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - Hagg
Manning - McDonald
Brennan - Alt
O'Neill

Elliott
Neuvirth
Lyon

Missing anyone?

 

[Curufinwe]

Who are the 36 still up?

Bardreau
Carey
Couturier
Filppula
Giroux
Knight
Konecny
Laughton
Lehtera
Leier
Lindblom
McDonald
Patrick
Raffl
Read
Simmonds
Varone
Vecchione
Voracek
Weal
Weise

Alt
Brennan
Ghost
Gudas
Hagg
MacDonald
Maning
Morin
O'Neill
Provorov
Sanheim

Elliott
Lyon
Neuvirth
Stolarz (injured)

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Who are the 36 still up?

21 Forwards:
F Cole Bardreau
F Greg Carey
F Sean Couturier
F Valterri Filppula
F Claude Giroux
F Corban Knight
F Travis Konecny
F Scott Laughton
F Jori Lehtera
F Taylor Leier
F Oskar Lindblom
F Colin McDonald
F Nolan Patrick
F Michael Raffl
F Matt Read
F Wayne Simmonds
F Phil Varone
F Mike Vecchione
F Jakub Voracek
F Jordan Weal
F Dale Weise

11 Defensemen:
D Mark Alt
D TJ Brennan
D Shayne Gostisbehere
D Radko Gudas
D Robert Hagg
D Andrew MacDonald
D Brandon Manning
D Samuel Morin
D Will O'Neill
D Ivan Provorov
D Travis Sanheim

4 Goalies:
G Brian Elliott
G Alex Lyon
G Michal Neuvirth
G Anthony Stolarz

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I think it's pretty lame that Kosorenkov didn't even get an ELC. I liked what I saw of him.

 

[Freaky Styley]

How has Elliott and the young D looked? Do you guys forsee him getting most of the starts and the young defenseman able to keep high % scoring chances to a minimum? It's a thinly veiled fantasy question but I'm also genuinely curious

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Elliott has yet to play. The young D has been pretty good. Morin and Hagg look (as of right now) to be locks for the upcoming season and Sanheim looked much better in the last game than the previous two.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think it's pretty lame that Kosorenkov didn't even get an ELC. I liked what I saw of him.

Big picture wise it's not really a big deal. Kosorenkov would still be a depth piece. But the way they kept him around so long not to do so was odd.

 

[deadhead]

They may be close to a numbers crunch, Kosorenkov was facing a lot of competition in the AHL next year, especially if they know if some of the college kids are thinking about turning pro next year.

When you start looking at the NHL and AHL rosters going forward, Hextall might have felt that he didn't show enough to be out players that would be here next year.

is there anything that would prevent them from making an ELC in a couple weeks if they were to say move Leier for a draft pick and they have a contract slot open up?

 

[Tripod]

I was hoping they kept him just to have that extra chance of a guy hitting it. But he has passed thru 2 drafts and 2 summers now without a contract.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They have the contract space if they wanted to fit him in. It's not a situation where it was sparse.

 

[Curufinwe]

Kosorenkov was facing a lot of competition in the AHL next year, especially if they know if some of the college kids are thinking about turning pro next year.

That must be it, since they do have the contract space as LOD said.

If they just sign Kase, this could be the top 13 Phantoms forwards to start next season.

Varone-Vorobyev-Aube-Kubel
Carey-Rubtsov-Kase
Bunnaman-Knight-Conner/Laberge
Twarysnki-Fazleev-Bardreau

And that's assuming Vecchione is on the Flyers, Salinitri isn't signed, Martel is let go, and Marody, Allison, and Lazcynski remain in college.