Post-Game Talk: Fly

[Crease]

So why isn’t that Kakko’s goal? Puck dies in the slot unless Kakko touches it, and it’s called a goal because of the penalty against Kakko.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

They are playing shit hockey. This team is far too deep and talented to have to "find ways to win" against the bottom feeders of the league, which usually they have failed to do. Any coach, including Quinn, could take this squad to the playoffs easily. Even the recent worry that they might miss out is a sign of sub-par coaching.

Too bad they can't win against teams like Vegas, Colorado, NJ, and Toronto. Seriously, are you even a fan?

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Despite the streak, tomorrow is a must win. You don't lose again to Chicago. They're 1-14 in their last 15.

Who’d they beat?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

All those unforgiveable losses earlier have really lowered the bar around here I guess.

we'll go real far riding Vesey and Goodrow. We're really set up for success.

That has nothing to do with being happy about winning 6 in a row and being in playoff position and 5 points out of 1st.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

K'Andre's goal was a thing of beauty but his overall game has REALLY started to get back to his playoff level lately. The last couple weeks he's really looked good. Schneider has looked good too frequently, even considering the shit he's had to carry. Miller-Schneider should be a pair for the time being, Schneider is legitimately better than Trouba right now. Shelter Trouba on the third pair until he's back to his level.

Finally they scored enough goals in a Halak start to overcome his two inevitable softies.

If I'm Drury I look to try and lock Chytil and Miller into fair-ish deals with decent term ASAP. If you can get the two of them signed to 4 years each for under 10m combined AAVs you need to do it.

I don't love Goodrow on that line but it's hard to really argue against him when he's putting up numbers. Gallant's comments lately make it seem like he knows the best spot for Goodrow is anchoring a line in the bottom 6 so I feel like we're going to end up there eventually, whether it's Kravtsov taking his place or a deadline acquisition (more likely) we'll have to see.

 

[bbny]

The 4th line was very good and deserved a bump in minutes tonight. Goodrow was great tonight and the team was on the PK 4x. He led the team in minutes. Seems right.

Some nights it makes sense to complain about lack of ice time for the kids. Not tonight. Not at all.

 

[Crease]

Same people complaining they weren’t winning while xG was through the roof are now complaining they are winning ugly…

 

[PuckLuck3043]

So why isn’t that Kakko’s goal? Puck dies in the slot unless Kakko touches it, and it’s called a goal because of the penalty against Kakko.

It should be. Maybe they will change it after the fact.

 

[CasusBelli]

Good performance. 79 and 21 were brilliant. Good stuff from 10. Mixed reviews on JH. Poor Kakko. Hope 8 turns the corner with the monkey now off his back. 5 has matched expectations.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

That has nothing to do with being happy about winning 6 in a row and being in playoff position and 5 points out of 1st.

simply making the playoffs shouldn't the end goal but it seems thats all this org cares about

 

[Clark Kellogg]

MSG POST GAME SHOW:

 

[SnowblindNYR]

All those unforgiveable losses earlier have really lowered the bar around here I guess.

we'll go real far riding Vesey and Goodrow. We're really set up for success.

Lowered what bar? How low of a bar do you need to be happy to be happy with a 6 game winning streak including 4 games against some of the best teams in the NHL and another one against a strong playoff team from last year? What a f***ing pathetic take.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey is legitimately a terrific middle six shutdown line, I hope the rest of the lineup can figure it out enough for that line to remain intact 5v5. That line is 3 players who just totally fit together style wise.

This team, for all their frustrating play this season, has enough talent to be a legitimate contender. It's just about finding the right combinations. This Trocheck line is a legitimately good line for the top 9, now it's about piecing the rest of the players (and whatever inevitable acquisitions come in) to piece together two other good lines. They're stilted overall because some of the combinations aren't optimized but it will get there.

I'm optimistic they'll figure it out. As long as the D continues to round into form and Igor plays at the level he's capable of, this is a legitimately good team. Miller rounding into forms is huge. Schneider has grown massively as a player and he's just 21 I feel like his growth has flown majorly under the radar.

Add one more top 9 level winger and upgrade 3LD and we're cooking with gas.

 

[FoxyClean]

That was the first of the year for both Trouba and Lindgren? I swear they'd both scored this year, huh.

 

[ohbaby]

I wasn't sweating it. We outplayed them pretty clearly. We've won six straight.

It's like they were watching a different game. We were in control throughout. The one goal lead in the 3rd was no indication of how well we outplayed them. We play like this nightly, we will win 9 out of every 10 games. Even with Halak in net.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

I don’t understand that lack of killer instinct on that last play by Kakko

I don't agree with it, but he was probably trying to ensure that Lindgren got the goal.

Edit - he wants to be a good teammate.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

simply making the playoffs shouldn't the end goal but it seems thats all this org cares about

I don't think it is the only thing they care about but it is the most important thing and quite frankly it should be.

 

[Kane One]

So why isn’t that Kakko’s goal? Puck dies in the slot unless Kakko touches it, and it’s called a goal because of the penalty against Kakko.

I was focused on Kakko, but my guess of what happened is that they didn’t award the goal due to the penalty. The penalty was completely coincidental.

While the penalty was taken, the net was knocked off, and Lindgren must have been in a position to score. So they awarded Lindgren a goal although he didn’t touch the puck, and wiped off the penalty.

63.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty for delay of game shall be imposed
(iv) On any player who delays the game by deliberately displacing a goal post from its normal position. The Referee shall stop play immediately when the offending team gains control of the puck;
NOTE: If a player deliberately displaces a goal post from its normal position when an opponent has an imminent scoring opportunity on an open net, a goal may be awarded by the Referee (see 63.7).

63.7 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal.
In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the attacking player must have an imminent scoring opportunity prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.
If the goal post is deliberately displaced by a goalkeeper during the course of a “breakaway,” a goal will be awarded to the non-offending team.
When the goal post has been displaced deliberately by the defending team when their goalkeeper has been removed for an extra attacker thereby preventing an impending goal by the attacking team, the Referee shall award a goal to the attacking team.
The goal frame is considered to be displaced if either or both goal pegs are no longer in their respective holes in the ice, or the net has come completely off one or both pegs, prior to or as the puck enters the goal.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

We all like to complain about Goodrow on that line but he gets put there, for better or worse, and he does nothing but fill in admirably. I don't want him there either, but the guy has put up points while being there. Kakko, Lafreniere and Kravtsov get minutes there and don't put up numbers. I want them there over Goodrow too, but I'm not going to get mad about him being there if he's actually contributing. I'll save my anger for when he's playing there and sucking (which he was a few games ago btw). Oh well, after Gallant's comments about "knowing where he really wants Goodrow" I'm assuming he knows where Goodrow should be in his lineup and he'll be where he should when it actually matters. Goodrow is doing an admirable job of filling that slot for the time being and I'm not going to let my imagination get the best of me assuming he'll be there forever.

 

[bobbop]

Well Picasso was into cubism and broken to bits is our playstyle. 2 points yes, 2 points but the team continues to underperform severely. The root issues remain.

Why don’t you go peddle that stuff somewhere else.

 

[mas0764]

People will complain about something. They could have won 10-0 and be on a 20 game win streak. It just doesn't matter.

It matters if the kids aren’t getting going and another scoreless game has everyone restless because we all know we aren’t winning the Cup without the kids doing a lot of heavy lifting.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

Same people complaining they weren’t winning while xG was through the roof are now complaining they are winning ugly…

we won the xG contest tonight.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Making the playoffs is the one and only ambition this org has.

You can do both especially with all the vets we have. Its frustrating that we have guys that could be top 6 players with some time and effort put into them but instead we'll trade futures at the deadline for top 6 players.

 

[ohbaby]

Some say, we played like shit. Some say, it shouldn't have been that hard [to win]. But this is the NHL my friends. There are no easy opponents. There are no games with perfect execution. Turnovers are a part of the game. It's how you keep them to a minimum that puts you on top. And this is exactly why we are on a 6 game winning streak.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

We all like to complain about Goodrow on that line but he gets put there, for better or worse, and he does nothing but fill in admirably. I don't want him there either, but the guy has put up points while being there. Kakko, Lafreniere and Kravtsov get minutes there and don't put up numbers. I want them there over Goodrow too, but I'm not going to get mad about him being there if he's actually contributing. I'll save my anger for when he's playing there and sucking (which he was a few games ago btw). Oh well, after Gallant's comments about "knowing where he really wants Goodrow" I'm assuming he knows where Goodrow should be in his lineup and he'll be where he should when it actually matters. Goodrow is doing an admirable job of filling that slot for the time being and I'm not going to let my imagination get the best of me assuming he'll be there forever.

I thought Laf had two goals in about 4 periods of play with Zib before he was taken off that line.