Shesterkybomb
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Boris Zubov
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Not mad either & I don't need statement games against crappy teams, but I would like to see these kids front & center.
LOFIN
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100% this. The kids have been taught to be defensively responsible, and not been given prime opportunities to score. Before the Rangers, Kakko was the main guy in every situation. He was on the powerplay, he was the extra man out, everything. With the Rangers, he's like the 5th guy in the pecking order when it comes to forwards. So guess what happens when you don't get those opportunities to score? You don't score. And you don't learn to score, because unlike many people think, the skill to score varies between every league. You need to learn when to take that shot, where the goalies are going for etc. Kakko has never been given that prime learning opportunity.
It's good that with Kakko he has atleast become a good forward in terms of puck posession. With Laffy, there has been no upside still. And there never will be, untill he's given the prime opportunity. Putting him next to Zib and feeding him the most 5v5 ice time would be a start.
Shesterkybomb
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I've been saying this for over a year, team is in denial if they think they can win a cup without the kids contributing as finished or near finished products. It should be a priority to make that happen sooner than later. You can win and develop at the same time, its not either or, especially with Shesty, Fox, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider and Trochek in the lineup as well, they have a ton of insulation to help these kids move forward.
To not understand that the goal of the coach is to win is to not understand the game. It's up to Drury to get rid of the coach if he thinks he is hurting the kids.
It's up to the kids to make it impossible to not give them more ice time.
Fox did it immediately. Miller has done it.
Laf has most assuredly not done it.
Goodrow and Vesey are playing more than Laf because they are outplaying him and by quite a margin.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
I wasn't sweating it. We outplayed them pretty clearly. We've won six straight.
Making the playoffs is the one and only ambition this org has.
No.
The whiners are mad.
The whiners are perpetually mad.
Winning makes them even angrier.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
The Rangers deserve credit for their response in this one.
Kreider might have scored and it was inconclusive. Then we get the powerplay and they score.
That could have been a huge momentum swing and it honestly wasn't. We kept right on playing our game.
Kreider might have scored and it was inconclusive. Then we get the powerplay and they score.
That could have been a huge momentum swing and it honestly wasn't. We kept right on playing our game.
PuckLuck3043
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I am talking about now and I have been critical of Gallant. They have won 6 in a row and just beat Vegas, Colorado, NJ, and Toronto. We are not playing shit hockey. Is every game a Picasso? No. They have also left many points on the table earlier in the year but I'm going to enjoy the fact that they are now winning consistently. There are only 8 or 9 teams in the league with more points than the Rangers.
Machinehead
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I'm the first person to look at things critically, as you know, but there's a time and place to be mad.
I'm not saying you can't critique the team or discuss changes after a good win, but the overall mood is not what I expected.
LOFIN
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Are you seriously saying that Kakko and Chytil have not done enough to earn more ice time over Kreider, Trocheck, Vesey, Goodrow etc?
Wow. Just wow.
GENESISPuck94
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Because there's 6 defenseman and 12 forwards. You can't bench half your defense corp in a game... they're forced to play.
A forward can be buried behind 9 other forwards without it really effecting the game that much.
PuckLuck3043
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Forget about the win and those 6 wins in a row and being solidly in a playoff position now. The kids got 3 less minutes than they normally do. Where's the outrage?
Lion Hound
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Gallants tweeks to the lineup seem to keep working. Last couple of games the Trocheck line skated against the Matthews and Hughes line and we’re super effective in doing so. I think Trocheck had the most ice time on those games Of the forwards. Flyers don’t really have a top line after the benching of Hayes, the demotion of Farabee to 3rd line and call up of Bellows. Instead he gave the Zibanejad line the big minutes and they each came away with 2pts.
Im assuming it’s “Chrysler Plant here I come” for Ben Harpur.
#5- Misses the net by 2 feet after jumping into the play. Puck ricochets around the board into resulting in an odd man rush the other way. Van Reimsdyk scores. Later he dumps the puck over the glass. I think he failed to clear on a 3rd play in his own end.
The Kakko hate is off the charts here. I think they got about as much ice time tonight as the 4th line. Same fans that hate Kakko, probably still yell “shoot it” everytime a Ranger touches the puck on the PP. Likely the same people that still listen to KISS and think Wrestling is real. Or maybe their descendants anyway.
6 wins in a row since the board almost imploded calling for a Tank for Bedard. Good stretch of games for the team. Doesn’t matter who was in or out of the lineups. Bottom line is they are finding ways to win games again.
Good to see Trouba get goal tonight. I don’t think he played all that well again, at least he isn’t playing like an $8mil dollar man. With that said, the club needs him to find his Game.
Im assuming it’s “Chrysler Plant here I come” for Ben Harpur.
#5- Misses the net by 2 feet after jumping into the play. Puck ricochets around the board into resulting in an odd man rush the other way. Van Reimsdyk scores. Later he dumps the puck over the glass. I think he failed to clear on a 3rd play in his own end.
The Kakko hate is off the charts here. I think they got about as much ice time tonight as the 4th line. Same fans that hate Kakko, probably still yell “shoot it” everytime a Ranger touches the puck on the PP. Likely the same people that still listen to KISS and think Wrestling is real. Or maybe their descendants anyway.
6 wins in a row since the board almost imploded calling for a Tank for Bedard. Good stretch of games for the team. Doesn’t matter who was in or out of the lineups. Bottom line is they are finding ways to win games again.
Good to see Trouba get goal tonight. I don’t think he played all that well again, at least he isn’t playing like an $8mil dollar man. With that said, the club needs him to find his Game.
Doctor King Schultz
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The Rangers had several highlight worthy goals. Even Vesey's goal would stand out in other games. Trouba's was great too, and that's aside from Miller's and Goodrow's breakaways.
Reading this board you'd think we were on a 6 game losing streak. This place is just depressing. If we can't be happy on a 6 game winning streak against some of the best teams in the league when can we be happy?
KirkAlbuquerque
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All those unforgiveable losses earlier have really lowered the bar around here I guess.
we'll go real far riding Vesey and Goodrow. We're really set up for success.
ohbaby
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I agree. The kids played well. I don't think it was intentional to limit their icetime. It was just weird how the icetime played out. With Zibad and Panarin on the same line, you figure them to get at least 20 minutes, but neither have the past few games. So it's hard to say what's going on as far as icetime.
LOFIN
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I want this team to win a SC. Being happy about a win with shitty ass performance leads to the f***ing mediocrity, that has plagued this franchise for over 80 years.
But sure, let's just be happy about the points and maybe Drury can waste some more assets into trade line rentals, that will all go to vain.
Machinehead
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Machinehead
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I didn't think we "found a way" in this game.
They chased us most of the game and I wasn't breaking a sweat.
They chased us most of the game and I wasn't breaking a sweat.
GENESISPuck94
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The goal isn't to bench 1st and 2nd overall picks and scratch a top 10 pick and bench another 1st rounder to secure a win in a random game in December against basically a lottery team. If that's this organization's end game goal then we should be fuming. That's how they're acting so rightfully people are annoyed. We want Cups, not perpetual mediocrity.
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