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Vatrano has one of the best releases/shots I can remember... maybe since Gaborik? He puts a lot more on it than Gaborik though
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- Jan 18, 2012
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5v5 has been better.
but our special teams have gone cold. Igor looks like he's in a slump and we're leaving him out to dry
Hopefully we put it all together by the Playoffs. Are they playing down to competition? It could be a part of the problem
Machinehead
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Playing down to the competition isn't a thing in the NHL. Nobody is truly bad. The Canadiens are 43-60-22 since the start of last season. They've won a third of 125 games. They were in the Finals.
The powerplay slump is completely normal.
A 25% powerplay doesn't go 1/4, it goes 1/10, 3/10, 0/10, and 6/10. Everyone's powerplay runs hot and cold.
Are we going to "put it together?" Maybe. Praying you're hot at the right time is just part of the game.
I knew it was over as soon as i saw Hayes was pretty meh in the SO. I thought to myself......"self....Hayes is gonna score".
Then i saw Chytil out there and knew what was gonna happen.
mandiblesofdoom
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BloodyNine, you're back!! We thought you died or something when you didn't post at all during the disaster Islanders game a couple of nights ago, lol.
JimmyG89
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You cannot continually start slowly in games. Big reason why they lead the league in comeback wins. That is only going to be tougher to come by in the playoffs. You need to be ahead and play with the lead. Teams will shut things down and make it extremely difficult on you.
That 1st goal needs to be stopped. That shot cannot go in. The other two were a 2-0 and a breakaway, which you cannot stop all the breakaways.
Fox needs to figure out whatever he is doing. Too many turnovers. That 3rd goal is primarily on him.
The one thing that is important is that offensively, they are playing winning hockey. Dominating the puck. Their own end is an adventure.
That 1st goal needs to be stopped. That shot cannot go in. The other two were a 2-0 and a breakaway, which you cannot stop all the breakaways.
Fox needs to figure out whatever he is doing. Too many turnovers. That 3rd goal is primarily on him.
The one thing that is important is that offensively, they are playing winning hockey. Dominating the puck. Their own end is an adventure.
JimmyG89
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My concern with this is that Kakko needs to be shooting on this line. Strome will not. Laf will definitely shoot. Kakko does not have a history of shooting, he defers way too much.
Maybe now that the team is becoming more of a possession team where they are the ones actually controlling the game, he will have more chances to shoot the puck, but I am hopefully that his time away will make him see he needs to be more decisive with the puck on his stick and shooting is better than not shooting.
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I like Chytil's forecheck and puck protection but he's part of the problem of our 3rd line scoring issues, him and Gauthier have no business playing with Laf. He is about a 10 -14 goal scorer and when everyone is back i hope Gauthier is in the ahl and our bottom 6 looks like this..
Laf Copp Goodrow
Motte Rooney/Chytil/Reaves
Laf Copp Goodrow
Motte Rooney/Chytil/Reaves
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Frustrating to only come out of Friday and Sunday with 1 of a possible 4 points. Considering it was against two non playoff teams both on the second night of back to backs while we were 'rested' both times. Frustrating but not end of the world.
Need to stomp the Devils on Tuesday to get the mojo flying again.
I don't have any worries about Igor. He's looked off for a couple weeks now but not off as in he's totally lost himself and we're screwed, but just like his timing and stuff that makes him truly locked in was king of here and there instead of every night. He's just having a bit of a slump, as long as he gets back to his usual consistent self by the end of the month then that's all that matters. I think seeing less shots overall lately and less game time has made him rusty. He needs to play the starters share for the next couple weeks. We need him at his best.
Need to stomp the Devils on Tuesday to get the mojo flying again.
I don't have any worries about Igor. He's looked off for a couple weeks now but not off as in he's totally lost himself and we're screwed, but just like his timing and stuff that makes him truly locked in was king of here and there instead of every night. He's just having a bit of a slump, as long as he gets back to his usual consistent self by the end of the month then that's all that matters. I think seeing less shots overall lately and less game time has made him rusty. He needs to play the starters share for the next couple weeks. We need him at his best.
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I'm not going to read through the endless ledge jumping from last night. It wasn't fun living through it the first time. Truth is we're in pretty much the same place we were before the weekend. So I guess none of those other teams are ready to win either?
I have to question Goodrow being on the ice late in OT as much as Chytil on the SO. You need scorers out there. But whatever, these are gimmicks. We got a point, deserved 2 and are one game closer to the only ones that count.
I have to question Goodrow being on the ice late in OT as much as Chytil on the SO. You need scorers out there. But whatever, these are gimmicks. We got a point, deserved 2 and are one game closer to the only ones that count.
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Playing down to competition is 100% a thing in the NHL. It's human nature. We normally get up 2-0 thought for it to kick in.
The team plays the right way against Pittsburgh.. They win in dominating fashion. Somehow we resort back to perimeter east/west hockey, no shooting and poor effort against bad teams.
tlk
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Personally I'm much more concerned about the Piles game. Looked a lot like one team erecting a playoff-type wall and the other trying to scale it in vain.
Machinehead
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Machinehead
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Are you forgetting the PIttsburgh game where we lost 1-0 and Jarry could have slept through the game? Couldn't have played down to competition that night.
There was no East-West hockey last night. We scored two goals from right in front of the net and another on a tip. We had 11 home plate shot attempts and a season-high in shots on goal.
We lost because hockey is random.
You guys read way too much into single-game results and try to plug them into narratives.
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I'm referring to post-deadline team. We're a much different team since then.
It's not single game results. The team has struggled with similar issues all season.
Hopefully being the playoffs... Intensity and urgency is there every game... playing the 'right way'
KirkAlbuquerque
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the problem with Igor is we started outshooting teams. We need to start gettting caved again and Igor will be back to saving 40/41
Kaapo Cabana
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It felt like it was Gallant rewarding him because he was having a very strong game and he's really been flying lately.
I would've went with Lafreniere or Vatrano at that point out of the available options but I can't really gripe too much with the Chytil decision there. Maybe Chytil should've went second and Panarin second but I think Gallant was thinking it could be over by the end of round 2. Shootouts suck so I hate really over analyzing them. Zibanejad should've scored and Panarin didn't even get a shot on net because of our garbage ice at MSG so I'm not gonna get too mad at Chytil.
We really could've opened up a large lead this weekend on Pittsburgh if we got all 4 points, we'd be up 5 on them right now instead of just 2 but hey, it is what it is. We still control our fate as far as positioning so really just need another solid effort Tuesday.
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The Garden was legit confused when Chytil came out for the shootout. And then he dekes out Jones only to fail to lift the puck, which is classic Chytil.
Machinehead
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Have we?
I seem to recall folks complaining that we can't beat playoff teams. Until we could. Variance remains undefeated.
Now we can't beat bad teams.
If you're that worried how we play against "bad teams," I got news for you: they're ain't gonna be any soon.
Quite a few shots off the posts and crossbar; Martin Jones outplayed Igor Shesterkin; our powerplay came up goose eggs... those are variances that you could safely expect to swing the other way for you. OTOH, I don't think that our shot totals or chances for/against numbers were necessarily indicative of a dominant performance. The Flyers had very few shots through the first two periods, but the shots they had were in large part odd man rushes and breakaways.
They weren't playing down, but if they played the way they did against a good team, they'd get wrecked. The Braun-Nemeth pairing for instance did pretty well by the numbers, but I didn't see them manage a single clean pass between the two of them the entire game. They faced the bottom of the Flyers lineup which shouldn't threaten anyone, so yes, the chances against were low, but those two were definitely dragging down the offense significantly. They end up positive in the ledger, but a deeper more competitive opponent would've taken advantage of that pair, the way they played last night.
