GDT: Florida @ Ottberia 7pm TSN5

[bert]

Honestly...he should probably just fight him.

What his mom says really shouldn't matter. I can't believe we just accepted that answer.

The Primeau brothers faught. If it's what's needed, it's what you do.

Plenty of best friends who grew up together rhave faught.

What a mom says a player is allowed to do or not should probably get laughed at. This is the NHL. Go love your mom and brother after the game, but during the game, they're irrelevant.

Brady fighting his brother has very little to do with guys not showing up to the rink. Weird thing for people to care about. He fights all the time, people complain he fights too much. It's very strange for me. I love the way he competes and plays. I wish the rest of his teammates showed up to compete like he does night in night out.

In 3 games against Florida this year, we're 0-2-1 with 2GF and 14GA, 0%PP and 66.7%PK. Sure, Florida is a very good team but we've been absolutely demolished by them to a degree we haven't been by any other team. I would say it has less to do with Florida being very good and more to do with this team getting punked by Brady's big bro all season.

No it's because they are the hardest team in the league. They do this to lots of teams, the sens also have the softest d core in hockey. When you're playing against the hardest forcheck it's a terrible matchup. Trying to blame this on two individuals when one's a cup favorite and ones a lottery team just doesn't add up.

 

[Micklebot]

I think last night was more about the Panthers being pissed off and flexing some muscle. They are one of the top teams in the league and last night we saw why.

Ottawa had chances, the puck just wouldn't trickle past Bobrovsky. Brady had what seemed like a wide open net off a brilliant pass by Stutzle in the first period, but the puck wouldn't go.

It seemed everything the Panthers fired on net did go. That was the difference.

We only really generated much of anything on the PP, which imo actually looked pretty good at least at first.

We didn't take care of the details from the puck drop, and showed our frustration as the game went on though. Chychrun not taking the body on that first goal was just pathetic, it was evident one team had something to play for while the other had guys going through the motions,

The game could have been closer had we scored on some of those early power plays, or gotten some saves on goals that never should have happened but it wouldn't change the reality that the team was outplayed handily,

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

I love the way he competes and plays. I wish the rest of his teammates showed up to compete like he does night in night out.

He needs to compete defensively. He is lacking in that department and it's obvious.

He doesn't cherry pick as often but he is still the primary high forward on breakouts and when they fail to get the puck out he is usually still too high to help out.

 

[Micklebot]

Brady fighting his brother has very little to do with guys not showing up to the rink. Weird thing for people to care about. He fights all the time, people complain he fights too much. It's very strange for me. I love the way he competes and plays. I wish the rest of his teammates showed up to compete like he does night in night out.

This is what I don't get; he fights and people complain, he doesn't fight and people complain.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Completely disjointed effort. Panthers' passes were crisp and reaching their destination, Sens' passes were telegraphed and sloppy. Could be because Panthers were hustling without the puck and the Sens weren't.

Funnily enough SOGs were almost even, but the score far from it...

Looks like the first period was even. Then we got absolutely steamrolled in the second. Zero high danger chances for lol. 6 given up.

And to start the players realize on top of having to prevent every shot from the blue line they would also have to prevent shots from below the goal line. Impossible task

 

[Micklebot]

Looks like the first period was even. Then we got absolutely steamrolled in the second. Zero high danger chances for lol. 6 given up.

And to start the players realize on top of having to prevent every shot from the blue line they would also have to prevent shots from below the goal line. Impossible task

Idk that the first period was even, they were all over us, we just got a lot of PPs and a couple short bursts 5v5.

It's bad enough spotting a team a lead mins into the game, but we spotted them a two goal in less than 2 mins, and neither goal had any business happening, we weren't at all prepared to put in the work early on. That third goal though, why even bother when the goalie is letting in those, and it seems the rest of the team agreed and mailed it in

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Idk that the first period was even, they were all over us, we just got a lot of PPs and a couple short bursts 5v5.

It's bad enough spotting a team a lead mins into the game, but we spotted them a two goal in less than 2 mins, and neither goal had any business happening, we weren't at all prepared to put in the work early on. That third goal though, why even bother when the goalie is letting in those, and it seems the rest of the team agreed and mailed it in

A couple PPs and some shot bursts is fine. They’re part of the game as well.

You get outplayed a little you get one in the pp (our pp sucks). Your goalie makes a save (our goalies suck) and the game changes.
The things that usually swing momentum for teams.. we simply don’t have. Our pp sucks ass. And our goalies suck ass

 

[Tuna99]

A couple PPs and some shot bursts is fine. They’re part of the game as well.

You get outplayed a little you get one in the pp (our pp sucks). Your goalie makes a save (our goalies suck) and the game changes.
The things that usually swing momentum for teams.. we simply don’t have. Our pp sucks ass. And our goalies suck ass

I also think when we fall behind in games that Stutzle and Brady have a tendency to push to much and they make it easy for the opposing coverage to get on them. They are so urgent to get goals back they don’t find the space between coverages and when they have the puck they tend to skate into battles and coverage to prove their desire and talent level and ability to impact the game instead of using the space between coverage to find teammates and build plays and keep the puck.

Stutzle reminds me of a young McKinnon just skating into trouble hoping his bag of tricks gets him out of it, Brady has a great feel for the game but he tends to push and shove when his team falls behind and he doesn’t find the soft ice as much because he seems to want to get his frustration out by being physical with people

Anyways - Brady seemed embarrassed last night. That’s not good for this franchise - these are the kinda games that make you wonder if Brady wants to stick around and keeping banging this crappy gong in Ottawa

 

[Micklebot]

A couple PPs and some shot bursts is fine. They’re part of the game as well.

You get outplayed a little you get one in the pp (our pp sucks). Your goalie makes a save (our goalies suck) and the game changes.
The things that usually swing momentum for teams.. we simply don’t have. Our pp sucks ass. And our goalies suck ass

I agree with you to a point, but it was imo pretty evident that guys weren't paying attention to the details from puck drop, a few bursts doesn't mean the team played well, it means maybe a line did for a shift or two, just my opinion, I guess.

You want to compete with playoff teams, you need to be finishing your checks, especially in the defensive end. you need to take the body, not stick check, you need to pick up your guys as a forward on the back check, we didn't do any of that,

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I also think when we fall behind in games that Stutzle and Brady have a tendency to push to much and they make it easy for the opposing coverage to get on them. They are so urgent to get goals back they don’t find the space between coverages and when they have the puck they tend to skate into battles and coverage to prove their desire and talent level and ability to impact the game instead of using the space between coverage to find teammates and build plays and keep the puck.

Stutzle reminds me of a young McKinnon just skating into trouble hoping his bag of tricks gets him out of it, Brady has a great feel for the game but he tends to push and shove when his team falls behind and he doesn’t find the soft ice as much because he seems to want to get his frustration out by being physical with people

Anyways - Brady seemed embarrassed last night. That’s not good for this franchise - these are the kinda games that make you wonder if Brady wants to stick around and keeping banging this crappy gong in Ottawa

DJ hockey for 4-5 years for those kids.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I agree with you to a point, but it was imo pretty evident that guys weren't paying attention to the details from puck drop, a few bursts doesn't mean the team played well, it means maybe a line did for a shift or two, just my opinion, I guess.

You want to compete with playoff teams, you need to be finishing your checks, especially in the defensive end. you need to take the body, not stick check, you need to pick up your guys as a forward on the back check, we didn't do any of that,

I’m not saying we were great. Some games you’ll simply be terrible. And some things can get you back into the game. And by the end of the game perception has changed on how the game went. And the team comes out a little harder in the second. And the third. Because some things have gone their way.

We absolutely have a tendency to sag when things don’t go our way. It’s gotten way better under Jacques. But yeah we do sag. And compound that with the goalies and then spending however long on the ppnwith no goal. It doesn’t help.

One of the times we played Florida bob was great. And I believe they won in OT. Perception of the game was “mighty panthers keep rolling”. Well. They had some lack of attention to details as well

Jeez just look at that five game winning streak. We were terrrrriibblllee against the oilers lol. What were Gord and dean talking about the very next game!? “Maybe these young guys are finally buying into two way hockey”. Like are you kidding me lol

 

[BankStreetParade]

You think Matt tkatchuk scares our power play ? And scares our goalies?

We aren’t the only team to get physically run around by Florida. They are known for that style of play and they are very good. If we could simply just go toe to toe with them then they likely wouldn’t be what they are

I think M. Tkachuk absolutely punked this team in their first meeting this season, Nov. 27th, and they haven't had an answer for them since.

Name any other team that compares to their style of play and I'll post their head-to-head stats. Hell, name any other team that you would expect to dominate us and I'll post their head-to-head stats so we can see how these stack up.

No it's because they are the hardest team in the league. They do this to lots of teams, the sens also have the softest d core in hockey. When you're playing against the hardest forcheck it's a terrible matchup. Trying to blame this on two individuals when one's a cup favorite and ones a lottery team just doesn't add up.

Name any other teams they've done this to this season and I'll post the head-to-head stats.

 

[Micklebot]

I’m not saying we were great. Some games you’ll simply be terrible. And some things can get you back into the game. And by the end of the game perception has changed on how the game went. And the team comes out a little harder in the second. And the third. Because some things have gone their way.

We absolutely have a tendency to sag when things don’t go our way. It’s gotten way better under Jacques. But yeah we do sag. And compound that with the goalies and then spending however long on the ppnwith no goal. It doesn’t help.

One of the times we played Florida bob was great. And I believe they won in OT. Perception of the game was “mighty panthers keep rolling”. Well. They had some lack of attention to details as well

I agree that goaltenders playing well or poorly can affect the perception of the game, I just don't really think we sagged so much as never got it up in the first place.

I think had we scored on a PP, maybe that would have been the spark to change how the game went, but we didn't. Bad games happen to all teams, this one was a bad one, imo we never checked in for the game, which is why it was so bad, of course, allowing two goals on the first 3 shots didn't help, it's hard to get your energy up and fight back in that situation, maybe if there were some stakes to the game for us, but that isn't the case.

I hope we move on from Chychrun, but if we don't, he needs to drastically change how he's played for us, I don't remember him being this bad in Arz, he just doesn't seem to give a damn half the time in his own end.

 

[jbeck5]

Brady fighting his brother has very little to do with guys not showing up to the rink. Weird thing for people to care about. He fights all the time, people complain he fights too much. It's very strange for me. I love the way he competes and plays. I wish the rest of his teammates showed up to compete like he does night in night out.


No it's because they are the hardest team in the league. They do this to lots of teams, the sens also have the softest d core in hockey. When you're playing against the hardest forcheck it's a terrible matchup. Trying to blame this on two individuals when one's a cup favorite and ones a lottery team just doesn't add up.

It's not about whether Brady should or shouldn't fight in general...or how he approaches the game in general.

We're talking about the Florida Panthers game. So I'm talking about how Brady plays against the Florida Panthers.

He plays like he's scared of his brother.

In what other game will the other team have a skilled rat taking their shots at his teammates where Brady refuses to do anything about it?

It's weird.

It's exceptionally weird how people have accepted the excuse of what his mom said as a reasonable reason not to put his brother in his place.

It's a very soft way of thinking.

 

[Big Muddy]

Looks like the first period was even. Then we got absolutely steamrolled in the second. Zero high danger chances for lol. 6 given up.

And to start the players realize on top of having to prevent every shot from the blue line they would also have to prevent shots from below the goal line. Impossible task

That’s not what I saw. We were bad from the get go and down 2 goals inside 2 minutes. The whole team was bad and that was a stinker of a game.

Oh well. Every loss helps the tank I guess. The draft is all that we have to look forward to and we’ve been on the outside looking in for months now.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think M. Tkachuk absolutely punked this team in their first meeting this season, Nov. 27th, and they haven't had an answer for them since.

Name any other team that compares to their style of play and I'll post their head-to-head stats. Hell, name any other team that you would expect to dominate us and I'll post their head-to-head stats so we can see how these stack up.

Name any other teams they've done this to this season and I'll post the head-to-head stats.

We were better than them when we played them after that. So we have had an answer.

 

[BondraTime]

We were better than them when we played them after that. So we have had an answer.

We lost one of the rare games where Korpisalo stood on his head against the Panthers after that game. .940 heading into OT

The Panthers peppered the Sens in close, they had 24 shots from inside the circles, had 30 more shot attempts, and the time spent in the Panthers zone was half than spent in the Sens zone

Our players had 70 offensive zone starts and 135 defensive zone starts

 

[BankStreetParade]

We were better than them when we played them after that. So we have had an answer.

I'm fascinated to hear how we were better then them in the next game where we lost 3-2 in OT and were down 1-0 less than 30 seconds into the game.

And please be sure to name any teams that compare to their style of play or any team you would expect to dominate us (based on record, quality of team, matchup style, etc.) and I'll post the head-to-head stats to see if this record against Florida is an anomaly or if it's what we've seen happen with other teams. And you don't have to do any research, just name the team(s) and I'll do the rest.

 

[Xspyrit]

ok so my analysis for this game :

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We lost one of the rare games where Korpisalo stood on his head against the Panthers after that game. .940 heading into OT

The Panthers peppered the Sens in close, they had 24 shots from inside the circles, had 30 more shot attempts, and the time spent in the Panthers zone was half than spent in the Sens zone

Our players had 70 offensive zone starts and 135 defensive zone starts

Good the goalie played goalie. Bobrovsky also made great saves.

We were not terrible that game. It was a good game. There are those right? Games where you don’t dominate and don’t get dominated. It’s just a game in which goalies play well.

And that’s a rare loss for us when korpisalo plays well. Happens.

Maybe we didn’t dominate and I was wrong. But we played with them. We weren’t bullied. And our goalie played well.

Are we horrible are are we disappointed we dont play well against the leagues best?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I'm fascinated to hear how we were better then them in the next game where we lost 3-2 in OT and were down 1-0 less than 30 seconds into the game.

And please be sure to name any teams that compare to their style of play or any team you would expect to dominate us (based on record, quality of team, matchup style, etc.) and I'll post the head-to-head stats to see if this record against Florida is an anomaly or if it's what we've seen happen with other teams. And you don't have to do any research, just name the team(s) and I'll do the rest.

Okay I don’t see how giving up a goalie in the first 30 seconds is relevant to if you played better than a team over 60 minutes. And bad 30 seconds is the same everywhere

I’m not saying Florida is or isn’t an anomaly. I just don’t think tkatchuk is in our power plays head. Do you think he affected our power play last night? Or he made korpisalo let in a goal below the goal line?

 

[ottawagm]

Not sure what happened to Brady. He used to hit people, get in the crease and be a pest. Now he's trying to be McDavid out there.

We don't need this version of Brady on the team, we have enough skill players.

 

[bicboi64]

Honestly...he should probably just fight him.

What his mom says really shouldn't matter. I can't believe we just accepted that answer.

The Primeau brothers faught. If it's what's needed, it's what you do.

Plenty of best friends who grew up together rhave faught.

What a mom says a player is allowed to do or not should probably get laughed at. This is the NHL. Go love your mom and brother after the game, but during the game, they're irrelevant.

Even if its not a fight, go give him a bone crunching hit. What use is it being top 5 in hits if you won't even use that to your own advantage against your brother who ragdolls us.

Or go after one of the Panthers stars. If MTkachuk wants to be a rat, get down to his status and give Barkov or Reinhart a huge hit. Brady doesn't even have to fight, just show some balls in a way that matters aka, not going after irrelevant players on the opposing team.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Okay I don’t see how giving up a goalie in the first 30 seconds is relevant to if you played better than a team over 60 minutes. And bad 30 seconds is the same everywhere

I’m not saying Florida is or isn’t an anomaly. I just don’t think tkatchuk is in our power plays head. Do you think he affected our power play last night? Or he made korpisalo let in a goal below the goal line?

FYI, we didn't play better than them that game. Feel free to review the advanced stats here: https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20232024&game=20876 and provide a compelling argument for where and how we outplayed them.

CF Florida: 79
CF Ottawa: 53
SCF Florida: 33
SCF Ottawa: 28
HDCF Florida: 15
HDCF Ottawa: 12
Final score: Florida 3 Ottawa 2

Yes, M. Tkachuk is in this team's head. Yes, his ability to run roughshod over our stars with impunity has emboldened his teammates to have the same approach. Ottawa has been shut out twice this year, wanna hazard a guess which teams we were shut out by? After a humiliating 5-0 loss to them, you'd think they wouldn't let it happen again and here we are the day after a 6-0 destruction. This team is in shambles and our captain has had no response.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

FYI, we didn't play better than them that game. Feel free to review the advanced stats here: https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20232024&game=20876 and provide a compelling argument for where and how we outplayed them.

CF Florida: 79
CF Ottawa: 53
SCF Florida: 33
SCF Ottawa: 28
HDCF Florida: 15
HDCF Ottawa: 12
Final score: Florida 3 Ottawa 2

Yes, M. Tkachuk is in this team's head. Yes, his ability to run roughshod over our stars with impunity has emboldened his teammates to have the same approach. Ottawa has been shut out twice this year, wanna hazard a guess which teams we were shut out by? After a humiliating 5-0 loss to them, you'd think they wouldn't let it happen again and here we are the day after a 6-0 destruction. This team is in shambles and our captain has had no response.

We got 12 HD chances to their 15? Wow. Some defensive collapses on both sides there.

Okay. We obviously can’t know if tkatchuk keeps the boys up at night. So. Perhaps.