HF Habs: Flames or Panthers 1st Round Pick 2025

[Deebs]

I think there’s a real chance Calgary will be a bottom 5 team and be in a great position to win the lottery. That would kick our pick to 2026 and reward us with the best pick of Calgary/Florida.

Calgary is going to be a weak team and Dustin Wolf will have PTSD from all the rubber he's going to see this year.

 

[KevSkillz4]

The only scenario that I understand and I want, it's that if Calgary win 1st overall pick this year, Habs will have their 3rd pick this year ++ the best pick between Calgary and Florida in 2016.

To me, that's the best possible outcome.

 

[Seb]

The only scenario that I understand and I want, it's that if Calgary win 1st overall pick this year, Habs will have their 3rd pick this year ++ the best pick between Calgary and Florida in 2016.

To me, that's the best possible outcome.

Best outcome is 11th OV in 2025. Florida's pick will not be top 15 next draft or the other after.

 

[waitin425]

Best outcome is 11th OV in 2025. Florida's pick will not be top 15 next draft or the other after.

Should we miss the playoffs, that 11th OV from Calgary will be a nice little add to our say 13th overall pick, to move up to the top 5.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Best outcome is 11th OV in 2025. Florida's pick will not be top 15 next draft or the other after.

The key is the Calgary pick in 2026. I'm pretty sure they will be in top 10. The pick isn't protected in 2026.

 

[SlafySZN]

If Calgary draft top 10 and we get Florida’s pick, what happens if by some magical parralel world Florida are also top 10? Do we get that pick or it’s also protected?

 

[KevSkillz4]

If Calgary draft top 10 and we get Florida’s pick, what happens if by some magical parralel world Florida are also top 10? Do we get that pick or it’s also protected?

Not protected. If both are top 10, we get the worst, I believe.

 

[Leto]

If Calgary draft top 10 and we get Florida’s pick, what happens if by some magical parralel world Florida are also top 10? Do we get that pick or it’s also protected?

Florida's pick is top 10 protected. See the Tkachuk trade details on PuckPedia :

If 2024 conditional 1st Round Pick owned by Philadelphia moves to 2025, this pick moves to 2026. If this pick is top 10, Calgary receives 2026 1st Round Pick

 

[Seb]

The key is the Calgary pick in 2026. I'm pretty sure they will be in top 10. The pick isn't protected in 2026.

For this to happen, Florida's 2025 first round pick should not be owned by Calgary. I don't know what are the conditions on this pick.

 

[KevSkillz4]

For this to happen, Florida's 2025 first round pick should not be owned by Calgary. I don't know what are the conditions on this pick.

Oh. I didn't knew that. So complicated lol. Kent Hughes is a master mind at this point.

 

[Seb]

Oh. I didn't knew that. So complicated lol. Kent Hughes is a master mind at this point.

Yeah, so it's not only if Calgary wins the lottery, they have to NOT own the Panthers' 2025 first round pick.

It won't happen. So best outcome is 11th OV next draft.

 

[LaP]

The way i understand the trade is Florida's 1st round pick doesn't go to Calgary if Florida miss the playoffs. So there's two scenario.

1) Florida misses the playoffs then we get Calgary's pick if it's not 1st overall. If it's first overall then we get the best 1st round pick betwem Calgary and Florida in 2026 unprotected. (very unlikely scenario)
2) Florida makes the playoffs in which case we get the best pick if Calgary draft outside the top 10 and if Calgary draft top 10 then we get Florida's pick. (very likely scenario)

 

[calder candidate]

I believe this pick is likely to be between 11-16. I don't think Calgary makes the playoffs, and I don't think Florida misses them. We should be rooting for Calgary to not completely bottom out, because if they do....we will be getting the Florida pick....which is easily 20+ in my opinion.

We need CGY to finish 11th, Florida with F us over just like the Chiarot pick…

 

[Trabdy2]

The way i understand the trade is Florida's 1st round pick doesn't go to Calgary if Florida miss the playoffs. So there's two scenario.

1) Florida misses the playoffs then we get Calgary's pick if it's not 1st overall. If it's first overall then we get the best 1st round pick betwem Calgary and Florida in 2026 unprotected. (very unlikely scenario)
2) Florida makes the playoffs in which case we get the best pick if Calgary draft outside the top 10 and if Calgary draft top 10 then we get Florida's pick. (very likely scenario)

This is how I understand it too.

 

[calder candidate]

I guess I'm the guy who is spearheading the Panthers downfall this season. So be it. I actually think they're one or two injuries away from missing the playoffs.

1) They've lost all their depth in their bottom 6, and D, including Montour who was their 2nd or 3rd best, depending on opinion.

2) They've played more hockey than any other team in the NHL over the last 24 months, that takes a toll.

3) Bobrovski is old AF and has been inconsistent over his career even in his prime years, maybe we get the down year this year.l

4) The classic stanley cup hangover is a real thing and if they get off to a slow start the Atlantic is gonna be even more competitive.

Add all that up and I think they're far from a lock to be some dominant team, as popular as that take might be.

They miss the playoffs and we get that sweet sweet Calgary pick that would make our dreams come true.

Believe people.

I agree but there is also a bunch of team that peak and will start tanking so it will be hard for them to fall too far…

The key is the Calgary pick in 2026. I'm pretty sure they will be in top 10. The pick isn't protected in 2026.

That would be a dream because even if the win the lottery they will be it the race for #1 OA in 2026 where it would be Mckenna…

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Best outcome is 11th OV in 2025. Florida's pick will not be top 15 next draft or the other after.

wouldn’t the best outcome be, we pick the best of the two in 2026?
Calgary will be a lottery pick for at least the next two yrs. Fla may miss the playoffs 25/26 in which case they also have a lottery pick. we may get two shots, maybe 3 at Gavin McKenna the phenom from the Yukon.

Gonna dream? Dream big!
Cheers

 

[JianYang]

Treliving reminds me of an executive at a big corporation.

Leave the corporation in a big mess, get out of that situation, go to the next corporation.... rinse and repeat

 

[Seb]

wouldn’t the best outcome be, we pick the best of the two in 2026?
Calgary will be a lottery pick for at least the next two yrs. Fla may miss the playoffs 25/26 in which case they also have a lottery pick. we may get two shots, maybe 3 at Gavin McKenna the phenom from the Yukon.

Gonna dream? Dream big!
Cheers

It would be, but it's basically not possible since it means both the Flames with the lottery and the Panthers don't make the playoffs. The odds are way too low to even think it can happen.

If it does I'll be extremely shocked (and equally happy) .

I like your optimism tho!

 

[CAUFIELD]

After reading all recent posts , nothing could be less clear

 

[Rob Sense]

After reading all recent posts , nothing could be less clear

I have lost brain cells trying to compute this!

 

[rahad]

We need CGY to finish 11th, Florida with F us over just like the Chiarot pick…

OMG... I has so pissed with Ben Chiarot first round pick going from top 15 to late late first.

 

[bsl]

The key is the Calgary pick in 2026. I'm pretty sure they will be in top 10. The pick isn't protected in 2026.

Is the 2026 Calgary pick not even lottery protected? Or floridas either?

 

[Maitz]

Looking at the CGY, I can't see a scenario where they doesn't end up bottom 5, that lineup is just horrible

 

[Gustave]

Looking at the CGY, I can't see a scenario where they doesn't end up bottom 5, that lineup is just horrible

They’ll finish 11th last

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Looking at the CGY, I can't see a scenario where they doesn't end up bottom 5, that lineup is just horrible

Keep the faith!