Rumor: Flames offer for Eichel: Tkachuk, 1st round pick, former 1st, and 2 prospects

[MarkusKetterer]

If this happens what could Buffalo try and get from Ottawa to flip Tkachuk there

Someone they really don’t wanna part with, I imagine.

 

[Hale The Villain]

If this happens what could Buffalo try and get from Ottawa to flip Tkachuk there

Don't think the Sens want to go through a Tkachuk negotiation again.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Someone they really don’t wanna part with, I imagine.

Do you think buffalo would try and flip Tkachuk? i feel like he kinda fits what they are doing

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I'll believe it when I see it, but if that is the sort of offer on the table, Holy moly.

Tkachuk might have a $9m qualifying offer but even so, his current salary of $7m is worth retaining on and selling as a rental to a competitor. MT at $3.5m would get a seriously good return and if there is a long term contract in place, even bigger.

 

[InfinityIggy]

If that was the offer Brad tabled, it would be a done deal now.

This. Either it means the return from Buffalo would involve several pieces or its total bullshit.

The deal would be done if that was it.

 

[JurassicTunga]

If this is true, then Adams is an idiot if he hasn't accepted this deal.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Someone they really don’t wanna part with, I imagine.

I don't know how much value I'd give up for the privilege of signing Matthew to a contract he's clearly not worth.

 

[Taluss]

If an offer like that goes through I will gladly admit to being 100% wrong and completely underestimating what Eichel would get

 

[P10p]

It has been so long, what even caused the neck injury?

 

[jaric1862]

If Tkachuk is going the other way I am guessing it is Valimaki and some lesser prospects.

How does that work cap-wise?

 

[SI90]

Buffalo better take this and run

 

[Forge]

If this happens what could Buffalo try and get from Ottawa to flip Tkachuk there

I don't know, but I'd be thrilled to have more of those proposals to take the place of Van / NJD for the Hughes bros.

 

[Duck Off]

This didn't go through because Buffalo wants the equivalent of four 1st round picks in return, not eight. I can see where they're coming from

you win HF today sir

 

[tsujimoto74]

What's a "former first round pick?" Isn't that just a prospect? I guess that's another way of saying "plus three prospects, one of them a former 1st round pick?" Weird way to say it.

I think it's an attempt to call out value, but it's not a very helpful one. Mikhail Grigorenko was a former 1st round pick when we traded him in a package to get ROR from Colorado, but he was a throw-in of virtually no value because he was clearly a reclamation project by that point.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Dealing Tkachuk does make sense. Flames have to move money out and the Sabres want value. Eichel at 10M >> Tkachuk at 7M. Matt's next contract is going to be a big one as well. Not commenting on the additional assets not knowing exactly what they would be.

Dube - Eichel - Lindholm
Gaudreau - Monahan - Mangiapane
Coleman - Backlund - Pitlick
Lucic - Richardson - Lewis

Or any other combination. Looks good.

I also wonder if the "former 1st round pick" is Zadorov. Suddenly the trade wouldn't look all that amazing.

 

[Syckle78]

Wait you're telling me the cost is higher than an expiring contract and conditional 7th round picks?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Is Dahlin going to?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

If the former 1st is Valimaki and the prospects are recent Day 2 guys, it’s not that impressive.

Agreed, this is kind of a shitty package once you factor in that Tkachuk is basically a first rounder at the deadline, that's it.

Late first
Valimaki
Two B-level prospects

This isn't that amazing of a deal.

 

[mattef]

What's a "former first round pick?" Isn't that just a prospect? I guess that's another way of saying "plus three prospects, one of them a former 1st round pick?" Weird way to say it.

Erik Gudbranson is a former first round pick

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Wtf??? Sooo glad the Rangers move on from this! Flames are nuts!

 

[hockey20000]

lol if i was a flames fan id be pissed.. wtf lmao

 

[Fire Treliving]

If that offer was on the table, I would imagine that the deal would be already done. I don't think Vegas can match it.

However, if the rumor is true, I do think that there would be more coming back to the Flames (Cozens or Mittlestadt?).

And it's a bit vague. What does "former 1st round pick" mean? Valimaki or Zadorov? Big difference. The part about prospects, too.

I have no problem moving Tkachuk for Eichel. I was absolutely done with him after his comments this summer which were a giant FU to his teammates.

 

[Perennial]

Monahan, Lucic, Zary, Coronato, Pelletier, 2022 1st

I wouldn't offer anything above that

 

[Djp]

What's a "former first round pick?" Isn't that just a prospect? I guess that's another way of saying "plus three prospects, one of them a former 1st round pick?" Weird way to say it.

cap dumps like Monahan is a former 1st

the prospects might not be recent 1st rounders ( Zary, Pell, Coronado)

if it was Tkachuk, Zary, 22 or 23 1st and another prospect would have happened.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If that's the offer, Buffalo should take it. Tkachuk is a very good player.

So something like Tkachuk, 2022 1st, Valimaki/Zadorov, Ruzicka/Pospisil, some throw in prospect?

Take it and run, Buffalo.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

The only thing I'd be worried about is if the 1st rnder was for this year. With giving up all that and not getting Eichel for quite awhile, that could be a lottery pick.
I'm actully OK with it if its Zads & Monny & Tka & 2022 1st