Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Prendan Brust]

A lot of willful ignorance out there

Fanboyism at its best. There you understand why some of these kids believe they can do anything without consequences.

 

[Coffey]

Lot of HFers exposing themselves in this thread. And in a yikes kinda way. In a Dennis Reynolds kinda way.

 

[CanadienShark]

You think it is manipulative to strike jurors with obvious bias?

Would it be fair to put 12 victims of Sexual Assault on the jury for these defendants?

It's a system that is inherently susceptible to manipulation, as you're literally stating and yet "disagreeing" at the same time.

 

[Pink Mist]

They'll be all playing in the KHL next year.

They'll be playing road hockey next year

 

[CycloneSweep]

Lot of HFers exposing themselves in this thread. And in a yikes kinda way. In a Dennis Reynolds kinda way.

 

[T REX]

Going by what's stated here:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/poli...r-hockey-sexual-assault-allegations-1.6741216

Specifically:

And:

It may have just come down to public pressure to take another look when the civil case had been reported. Perhaps there ends up being more to it than that, but as far as I can tell, that's what forced their hand.

I'll take it a step further.

And any GM who knowingly ICED these guys or signed them to a contract or traded for them needs to answer major questions. There's not going to be any plausible deniability to hide behind. Heads are gonna roll...and rightly so. Rumors or whispers? You better have dotted your I's and crossed your T's because the public is gonna want blood. This doesn't stop with these players. Execs are going to need to explain themselves.

And those other 3 players? Warning to them...they are going to find out who you are and what level of involvement occurred.

Hockey culture is in for a huge shock. Huge.

 

[Coffey]

Bingo.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

The most important thing is justice.

If they're guilty, they should be severely punished for what they did. This is absolutely inexcusable stuff.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Even if no crime has been committed this causes great reputational damage. That’s what we are seeing now even before the verdict is made. What we are sure of at the moment is that there was group sex. But we don’t know whether it was consensual or whether it was rape. But what we are sure of is that the careers of 5 players have already been destroyed, regardless of whether their guilt will be proven or not. And Hockey Canada's reputation has already suffered. From this we can conclude that having a group sex is already a crime. But that's not true.

You wrote all those words without acknowledging what I said even one little bit.

Why would Hockey Canada pay this woman several million dollars if the consensual group sex you're trying SO hard to believe in is what happened?

 

[JoVel]

I hope some people here haven't, and never will raise any children. Especially boys.

 

[CycloneSweep]

You wrote all those words without acknowledging what I said even one little bit.

Why would Hockey Canada pay this woman several million dollars if the consensual group sex you're trying SO hard to believe in is what happened?

I don’t think a girl who is intoxicated, naked and in an incredibly vulnerable position like she was can consent the anything.
Like literally anyone. Put yourself in her shoes. A bunch of drunk athletes are surrounding you in that situation and saying they are going to screw you. You think the easy thought in her mind is “I’ll just say no and they’ll let me go right”?

 

[Korpse]

I miss the time where we all assumed who was involved based on vague statements.

 

[WTFMAN99]

That is...something.

This is 2 pronged

1. If they are guilty, they deserve to face justice

2. If they are innocent, this is a LONG time away from the NHL, your skills diminish.

 

[KCbus]

I've never been happier to be completely out of the loop on a story.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Anyone else turn themself in yet or are they waiting till last minute?

Devils forward Michael McLeod charged with sexual assault, lawyers say – Sportsnet.ca

 

[Danarqhy]

I wonder if the Flames will try to terminate Dube for material breach if he lied to them since it's now created a shitstorm in Calagary after they put out that tweet that he was leaving for "mental health" reasons.

 

[rynryn]

You wrote all those words without acknowledging what I said even one little bit.

Why would Hockey Canada pay this woman several million dollars if the consensual group sex you're trying SO hard to believe in is what happened?

I feel at least a couple defense teams are going to toy with the idea of throwing HC under the bus to reduce their clients' culpability. HC as an authority that told them to say this, keep quiet about that...That sort of thing. They will claim their clients were too young and insulated to know how serious the matter was.

 

[Three On Zero]

Thinking about offering a premium subscription level of $2/month but you're allowed to speculate three times per month.

Does $9.99/month get you the unlimited speculation package?

Or a prepayment of .99 cents per speculation

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I wonder if the Flames will try to terminate Dube for material breach if he lied to them since it's now created a shitstorm in Calagary after they put out that tweet that he was leaving for "mental health" reasons.

Well, did he lie? Just because he was charged, doesn't mean he lied. A lot of people are not getting this.

 

[Melrose Munch]

Yes sir. My feelings exactly.
This F ing POS league and its teams disgust me more and more the older I get

1000 percent agree.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Even if no crime has been committed this causes great reputational damage.

Just maybe folks intending to make millions as public celebrities should use better judgment than to even get near a situation like this in the first place?

 

[Danarqhy]

I miss the time where we all assumed who was involved based on vague statements.

Hilarious. and this is why the player's agents and lawyers do this stuff, because they have clown hacks in the media willing to do their bidding for them.

 

[Primary Assist]

READ. THE. ARTICLES. Her parents found her shaking uncontrollably in the shower at 5am that morning and immediately contacted the authorities and Hockey Canada. Her first "consent" video includes a player saying "say it" in the background as she wipes tears from her eyes. Both of the "consent" videos were taken after the incidents had already occurred. Hockey Canada leaked her identity to the players so that they could pressure her to make it all go away. There's lots of verifiable info out there that casts their actions in a hell of a lot worse light than you're making it seem.

I actually didn't know a lot of this info and have been following this thread somewhat closely. Thank you for sharing - quoting you for additional visibility

 

[Jee]

Some people make me lose faith in humanity.

 

[Musampa]

You wrote all those words without acknowledging what I said even one little bit.

Why would Hockey Canada pay this woman several million dollars if the consensual group sex you're trying SO hard to believe in is what happened?

First of all, I'm not trying “SO hard” to believe in anything. I was not in the room and did not hold the candle. I am not a judge to judge someone especially without knowing all the details. As for Hockey Canada, I have already explained, but it looks like it’s YOU are the one who “wrote all those words without acknowledging what I said even one little bit”. Ok, I'll repeat it. Sometimes it is more profitable to pay millions so that the information does not become public and you do not lose TENS of millions. Because when the hype starts, you lose these tens of millions even if the truth is on your side. Therefore, payment for silence is not an admission of guilt.
P.S. Please don't make me a player's advocate because I'm not. I just hate it when people put labels on others. If the court finds them guilty, then they are on their way to jail.