I think the Kings media scrubs use Kopitar’s leadership strategy but it’s the opposite.
If everyone sucks, nobody has to even be average.
If everyone sucks, nobody has to even be average.
Speculation: Fire Rob Blake Blow it Up Offseason Thread (update: Robitaille, Blake and Hiller stay)
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KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
Anything is better than this shitty home plate logo. I'd definitely be happy with the chevy logo but would like to see a new throw back crown style logo.
️ #GoKingsGo is a modernized version of the Gretzky-era logo in black and silver with a new crown design inside.He says it’s a modernized version of the Gretzky logo with a new crown design inside. I don’t like the sound of that. I’m guessing they’re swapping in the current crown that’s in the home plate, changing the “Los Angeles” at the top to “LA” (wonder how long until they officially change the team name at this point), and using a different Kings wordmark. Pretty standard “throwback but slightly different so everyone has to buy new merch” move.
Ziggy Stardust
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The new logo needs to contain a lion with sunglasses, two crossed golf clubs, a volleyball, and a surfboard.
Roy is a solid defenseman, could have been worth easily a 1st+, but they definitely need to walk on from him. Who knows from this franchise, but Clarke HAS to be on the roster and honestly should be on PP1 over Doughty. Everyone can see it from space, they are just going through the motions of 'trying to compete' before Drew and Kopi hang them up which is absurd.
As for the jerseys, whatever. They just want the record for most changed jerseys in NHL history at this point
Really wish they would take back purple/gold/forum blue before Utah takes purple which is likely.
As for the jerseys, whatever. They just want the record for most changed jerseys in NHL history at this point
Really wish they would take back purple/gold/forum blue before Utah takes purple which is likely.
DAkings20
Kings can't score
Getting rid of purple in the color scheme still pisses me off.
Have a feeling that Utah is going to use purple and it'll look sweet.
Have a feeling that Utah is going to use purple and it'll look sweet.
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johnjm22
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The only thing preventing LA from having the worst uniforms in the league over the past decade was the Duck's atrocities.
If Anaheim comes out with a good re-design, we'll likely have the worst jerseys in the league.
If Anaheim comes out with a good re-design, we'll likely have the worst jerseys in the league.
FrozenKing18
Where is my super suit?
Ehh I was hoping they’d just switch to the chrome logo. I think it’s perfect the way it is. And I much prefer the crown on it rather than the 60s one. That’s just me though. But I’ll wait to see how them new uni looks.
Little Psycho
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Only thing Luc knows how to do is create shitty jerseys
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really wish we were in a position to be like "wow new jersey, new system, commitment to youth! can't wait to see what they do!" but it's just not that at all
this stinks of "please god don't leave me, i can change i swear" energy
this stinks of "please god don't leave me, i can change i swear" energy
The thing with the jerseys and the logo is that there aren't any absolute right answers as you can't make everyone happy, but there are definitely wrong ones. We've already become accustomed to the rebranding over the decades and now there is a disconnect between the eras, but it is clear Luc has a thing about his era and it is the design he keeps getting back to. Just another thing that can easily go wrong and piss off the fanbase It would be nice if they finally listened to the fanbase's feedback for once before making this decision.
It would be nice if they finally listened to the fanbase's feedback for once before making this decision.
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OT, but I was at this game. I remember it well.
As usual when I go to a game, the Kings let me down.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
here AEG just saved you a bunch of money
just silkscreen it on a Fanatics jersey, will be the same quality as the product and the front office
just silkscreen it on a Fanatics jersey, will be the same quality as the product and the front office
I thought it was bad the Kings don't have any 2nds but then I went down the list of Kings 2nd rounders since 2010 and it's gotta be one of the lowest hit rates in the NHL.
kingsboy11
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I get where you're coming from regarding Hoven and I certainly have my issues with him, but this thing about Yanetti and Hoven and this thing you have about slow burning the prospects, I don't think its that deep.
You're right in that the Kings don't always slow burn prospects, but is it a lie? For every Wayne Simmonds, Kyle Clifford etc, there's a Voynov, Toffoli, King, Lewis and so on. Is it lie? It's not the full truth sure, but I don't think he's delusional and trying to fool us. Could he follow up and ask to clarify? Sure, but I think the average Kings listener knows that its not entirely true.
When Hoven gets Yanetti and Murray or anybody else on the pod, they're not on trial and there's a penalty for perjury. Its not a 60 minutes segment, its a podcast and for the most part he's just letting Yanetti talk. I don't think its supposed to be anything more than what's presented IMO.
I'm not defending him by any means because there's a fair number of things that I agree with you about Hoven, I just personally don't think this particular thing is worth fighting for
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This is incredibly naive. Here's the deal, when everything is going right then the fluff pieces are expected. When things are going wrong and you're getting nothing but fluff then thats where its a problem. When you serve as one of the few avenues of clarification then it should go without saying for interviewer and the interviewee that hard line of questions are on the table. If there's few avenues then it should be expected.
The Kings would have a better chance getting hard hitting journalism from Dj Akademiks or Adam22 at this point.
When you're one of the few avenues for the entire fandom then you owe it to your fans as interviewer and interviewee to answer tough questions. It's just never like that. And usually if a question is asked they're never pushed on for clarification.
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Whilst in general you may be correct I’m pretty sure the Jerseys take a couple of years to get approved. It came up during the reverse retro discussions… that there is a process to get changes approved which takes I believe 2 years. It’s entirely possible I’m remembering incorrectly though.
So I don’t think the jerseys are part of the ‘leave me alone’ plan as they clearly can’t plan that effectively.
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DoktorJeep
Fair winds and following seas Nikolai.
We all know how small the Kings fan base is. There are probably 10k season ticket holders and half of those are corporations. The other half are multi generational families who are now mostly soccer mommies.
Then there are like 1k diehards who are mostly watchers and commentators. Beyond that, not much. Sad for a market like LA.
Which is why it is confusing that the media mouth pieces don’t criticize management more. If Mayor McCheese and Donkey Bernstein took a massive dump all over Luc and Rob, there clout would shoot through the roof.
If Dools and Cohen found a way to directly criticize the organization, I bet they’d get a spike in listenership.
What is holding these guys back? They have access and the best they can do is cater to a basic bitch audience.
Blake says the players need to show more of a willingness to go to the hard areas on the ice in order to progress. Well so does the marketing department and their slush fund flunkies.
Then there are like 1k diehards who are mostly watchers and commentators. Beyond that, not much. Sad for a market like LA.
Which is why it is confusing that the media mouth pieces don’t criticize management more. If Mayor McCheese and Donkey Bernstein took a massive dump all over Luc and Rob, there clout would shoot through the roof.
If Dools and Cohen found a way to directly criticize the organization, I bet they’d get a spike in listenership.
What is holding these guys back? They have access and the best they can do is cater to a basic bitch audience.
Blake says the players need to show more of a willingness to go to the hard areas on the ice in order to progress. Well so does the marketing department and their slush fund flunkies.
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But Hoven’s role isn’t that of a tough interviewer. He simply chats and talks to his guests and they share what they choose to. It’s a magazine show and it has never been more than that. They spend a whole bunch of time about shirt numbers FFS which drives me insane but that’s what he does. I rarely listen anymore, just the occasional interview section depending on who is on. The rest of it bores me.
It’s fine to like or dislike Hoven but he’s not responsible for the lack of press coverage. It’s like getting mad at your family doctor for not doing brain surgery. It’s not his wheel house.
The interviewee isn’t there to answer tough questions in most cases either. The only ones you can argue should answer for the org faults are Blake and Robitaille. MY in general always gives a fairly self critical review of his drafts. I’m also sure he said in one of his interviews that the decision on the top picks has always been Blakes (adding to the discussion about Blake overruling MY on Turcotte). Like Yanetti it’s reasonable that guests talk about their areas of responsibility (which they do) and unrealistic to expect them to get into stuff BLuc is responsible for.
The issue is a lack of completely independent media coverage but that’s not the fault of Hoven, who doesn’t hide his ties.
DoktorJeep
Fair winds and following seas Nikolai.
Where exactly are his ties spelled out? My understanding is he’s a life long fan who produces content because he is passionate. The only ties I’m aware of are him being a long time season ticket buyer who gives his seats away for the majority of the home games because the press pass the Kings gave him provide a place in the press box for him to watch from instead of his purchased seats.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
He’s being untruthful, period. The question is on the current Kings player development philosophy, which emphasizes heavy AHL involvement for everyone, including players taken high in the first round, more so than any other team in the league. He could have defended it without making historically inaccurate comparisons, which would have been fine, fans can agree or disagree with him, but at least it's his opinion, he is entitled to his own opinion, but he isn't entitled to his own facts. The facts just don't back up what he said in any way, between 2006-2010 during the Kings accumulation of assets stage you had Kopitar, Doughty, Simmonds, Moller, Bernier, Johnson and Clifford make their NHL debuts without seeing any AHL time. That is seven players in five season span, compare that to the current Kings team and you have one player, a 22 year old middle six winger in laf. I'm sorry, one does not just "forget" something like that. And if someones memory is that poor and he did indeed forget, maybe he shouldn't use historical references to discuss or justify current things.
Your examples of those other players are fine, but nobody is saying that the Kings didn't have any prospects in the AHL back then, just that they didn't slow cook everyone like the current team does. Also, you are talking about secondary pieces, not top half of first round picks. There is just no way you can compare the developmental philosophy of Rob Blake's front office to that of Dean Lombardi's front office. You can say one is better than the other, but you can't say they are anything alike, it's not even close.
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