johnjm22
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People like to complain coaching, or the 1-3-1, but it doesn't really matter what system you play if you don't have the talent on your roster to contend.
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Surf Nutz
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My ideal lineup for the start of REGULAR season has
Turcotte - Lewis - Akil = L4
Fiala - QB - Foegi-O
Jeannot - Kopitar - Kempe
Moore - Danault - Laffy
The other 3 lines are interchangable based on current form.
I hope to see Kaliyev signed and given another top 3 chance along with Fagemo, during preseason
All The Kings Men
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you forgetting about Gawdin, Studnika, Mallott, Madden, Ward, Lee, Helenius etc etc etc?
Sol
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the worst part about the Kings 1-3-1 is that they didn’t have a great enough defense and goaltending to employ shell counter attack hockey.
You have freaking Talbot and you’re running 1-3-1. Absolutely moronic. At least Roy is gone. That’s 1 goal a game guaranteed off the stat sheet. The greatest spectator I’ve ever seen in the crease. Guarding no one, not even moving to cover the open man. Just standing there and staring like he’s into some kinky type shit.
You have freaking Talbot and you’re running 1-3-1. Absolutely moronic. At least Roy is gone. That’s 1 goal a game guaranteed off the stat sheet. The greatest spectator I’ve ever seen in the crease. Guarding no one, not even moving to cover the open man. Just standing there and staring like he’s into some kinky type shit.
Brownie to Pancakes
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Wherever you rank him, he would have been 100x better if he didn't puck watch in the crease
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Sol isn’t wrong that his net coverage at times cost us and he gave the puck away a tonne. Also I do think he benefited hugely from Gavrikov. I think he was worth what we were paying him but he’s not worth the deal he got.
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Roy was a 7th round pick, 194th overall.
One of the best picks ever by the Kings, for when he was picked and what he delivered.
I am ok with letting the Caps outbid us but if we don't make the top 8 Westerly, his loss will be palpable.
The amount of disrespect to some of the players here , like Roy and Kopi is hideously beastly.
I know people are frustrated with 3 first round losses to what became the proven West Champs, but
keep the train on the tracks people!
One of the best picks ever by the Kings, for when he was picked and what he delivered.
I am ok with letting the Caps outbid us but if we don't make the top 8 Westerly, his loss will be palpable.
The amount of disrespect to some of the players here , like Roy and Kopi is hideously beastly.
I know people are frustrated with 3 first round losses to what became the proven West Champs, but
keep the train on the tracks people!
King'sPawn
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Roy's play went down thepast season. I'm not sure if it was trying to adjust on taking more chances, but his reads of the plays and coverages were off.
Not a "good riddance" type of scenario, as he still had value. But it feels like some were still clinging to the Roy of the year before last
Not a "good riddance" type of scenario, as he still had value. But it feels like some were still clinging to the Roy of the year before last
We know Lewis will at least play enough games to hit a 1000. It is very important to them he does it in a kings Jersey
johnjm22
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Which makes it all the more painful that we didn't trade him.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
On the contrary
Feels like far too many assess Roy solely on his dip in play post-injury and not his entire body of work
Get the feeling there's gonna be some 'why didn't he play that way for us' this year
Doesn't ultimately matter because I think 99.9% of people here thought he was a goner and almost all knew he was gone as @johnjm22 points out but I haven't seen a player get wrongfully pinata'ed like this in quite some time.
Yanetti basically said Lee and Helenius (my fav prospect) need another year in the A.
Madden could get a call - might be one of those players where his game translates better in the show.
Ward is a power forward but he’s basically an AHL version of Jeannot but fights less. Still a good player.
Gawdin has 0 NHL goals spread over about 4 NHL seasons - only 13 games played though. Don’t really see much upside there. He’s also 27.
Malott has played 1 NHL game. Though he has the size and skill.
Studnika is probably the most likely he has over 100 NHL games under his belt. He’s also younger than Malott and Gawdin. Also was a 2nd round pick.
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King'sPawn
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We may have been looking at the same conclusion from different angles. You're pointing out they only saw this year's Roy and ignored his body of work. I'm mentioning people were feeling underwhelmedby this season compared to the rest of his body of work.
Either way you look at it, he didn't have a great season. People seem to be focusing so much on the recency, that they overlook the possibility it may have been an outlier.
Different causes, same effect, as it could turn out to be.
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For me it was his complete body of work. I was strongly in favour of trading him before the start of this season and posted to that effect. His value was at an all time high with Gavrikov elevating his game after he arrived. His issues last season were prominent in 22/23 before Gav arrived. As I say he was worth what we paid him and he is not a bad player, but I do think he’s been over valued.
Im sure the Kings made at least some effort to keep him. Reading between the lines Roy wanted to move on. He made some comments about him and his wife wanting to leave California and also made remarks about idiots dancing in the lockerroom last year.
If he wanted to stay Id think Spence would have been on the move.
I heard the part about wanting to get out of Cali but nothing about dancing idiots. Roy also said Kings made him an offer.
johnjm22
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It's baffling they made a contract offer to Roy.
You could've got a 1st and a quality prospect for him at the deadline.
You could've got a 1st and a quality prospect for him at the deadline.
I'm not surprised. Pretty sure only friends and family keep me here at this point. It's so expensive.
He said it in an interview during or after a game last year. Cant remember which one but he didnt seem pleased with that type of behavior.
SaltyElkHunter
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Man imagine when Texas gets a second team and Atlanta. Maybe it’s a good time to be in the gutter with two expansion drafts coming. With greed at an all time high wouldn’t be surprised if we got 4 with Quebec and Phoenix as well.
Trash Panda
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Roy catches most of the ire from people here, for a myriad of reasons, but Gavrikov was the one who was truly horrendous down the stretch last year.
Hopefully he was just struggling with the injury, and it’s not indicative of what he is becoming.
Hopefully he was just struggling with the injury, and it’s not indicative of what he is becoming.
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