I wouldnt mind Kaliyev and Spence for Laine and Jiricek. Let Roy walk. Laine is like the maximum caricature of a Kaliyev style player only has 2 years left and Jiricek has a bigger ceiling and also size over Spence.
Speculation: Fire Rob Blake Blow it Up Offseason Thread (update: Robitaille, Blake and Hiller stay)
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DoktorJeep
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Pour a 40 out for our dead homey Cam Talbot today. Dude was on his knees begging for another couple years living in Manhattan Beach. At $1M a year, he’d be happy to rent a 3 bedroom condo instead of hitting the open market.
Lucky for him, the Ducks are primed to give him a 2 way deal once they dump Gibson. If PLD can move for nothing, you have to think Verbeek won’t stand to look like a shnook next to Rob Blake.
Lucky for him, the Ducks are primed to give him a 2 way deal once they dump Gibson. If PLD can move for nothing, you have to think Verbeek won’t stand to look like a shnook next to Rob Blake.
bland
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Oh no, I hadn't even thought about Laine.
Shit. So many potential mistakes for Blake to choose from!
Brownie to Pancakes
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Praying that some other idiot team outbids us for Roy. You know it's the only way we don't get him
why would columbus do that?
No thank you on Laine. LA now has a forward spot for an AHL player. Leave it that way. Only reason I would be remotely interested in Laine is because he shoots right
Ziggy Stardust
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Rob Blake sure has gotten himself into quite a few pickles...
Has he gotten out of these bad situations? Yes. But resources, assets and money wasted and allocated towards shortsighted moves seems to be his trademark move.
- Moving Gaborik for Phaneuf, who was then bought out.
- Signing Ilya Kovalchuk to a 3-year deal.
- Cal Petersen's 3-year, $15 million extension.
- The Pierre-Luc Dubois sign & trade fiasco.
Has he gotten out of these bad situations? Yes. But resources, assets and money wasted and allocated towards shortsighted moves seems to be his trademark move.
FrozenKing18
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All I can think of now is who we could have gotten with that Vilardi, Iafallo, Kupari, 2nd package.
AbsentMojo
F-ing get up and hunt! Cmon Todd!
His tenure has been an unmitigated disaster... tack onto that the list of failed coaches, lack of developed picks, loss of value on high picks like Bjornfot and Kalilyev, inability to draft or trade for a top 6 center, cap blown with no $$ for goalies, no playoff series wins while at the helm.. what you have is one of the worst GM tenures in league history... yes or no?
hotcabbagesoup
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*door creakily opens*
Sharks GM Mike Grier enters the auction for Matt Roy
Bjornar Moxnes
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Why would Columbus trade jiricek for anyone outside of Byfield and Clarke though?
Ziggy Stardust
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It will always be tough to top the awfulness of the old drunkard, George Maguire, and Nick Beverley and Sam McMaster gave us some of the worst trades in franchise history, but Blake sure is close to them when it comes to mismanagement.
Then again, this franchise has only had two GMs in their history who built the team up in Dean Lombardi and Dave Taylor. Rogie was a little competent as well and made some decent deals, and that right there makes up the top 3 list of best GMs this team has had.
Oddly enough, this seems to confirm that the worst move Blake made was one he didn’t make: not trading for Jack Eichel back in 2021 and instead letting him get traded to a division opponent who then went on to win with him as their #1 center. Blake then fumbled around for a center for 2 years and used some of the very assets he could have used to get Eichel to get PLD instead.
No Laine, if your gonna make a move like that you go after Necas or Ehlers with a conditional protected 25 1st if he resigns. Laine has too many unknowns at this point. You also do not trade Spence, he's only get better, skys the limit for Spence
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"I don't think Scotty Bowman could screw anybody including you"
George Maguire to Liz Shanov of the LA Times
Ziggy Stardust
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He must've polished off a bottle of scotch after finding out Rick Martin had only one good leg.
Charlie Simmer, who broke his leg, was replaced by another player with a broken leg.
McMaster sucked because he had to sell players because pay roll checks were bouncing. Gretzky was spotting teammates money so they could pay bills Unless AEG's checks are bouncing, then McMaster was much better.
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Is that taking into account the 4.5 million in penalties we have with Richards and Prov’s penalties and Byfield and Talbots bonus carryovers?
Raccoon Jesus
Draft em but don't play em
might f*** around and change my handle to "Cam Talbot's Bonus Overage"
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The defining difference is that Blake has had EVERY advantage at his disposal. World class training facility; a minor league team training at the same facility; fully modern scouting and medical staffs; a team that could spend to the top of the league; the goodwill of fans after the first ever sustained Cup runs; a blueprint of how to succeed in Los Angeles (if even briefly) in front of them; a roster filled with Cup winning talents that could be kept or dealt to rebuild upon his choice; then the ability to pull off a rebuild with some of those talents with support from ownership, and apparently, one that has not prioritized success.
Nobody has done less with more.
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Let's do this again with the new numbers!
(I love doing this)
IF you fill every empty spot (including RFAs) with league minimum contracts ($775,000) the Kings have $16,386,667 and the roster looks like
(LM = league minimum place holder)
LM-11-9
12-24-22
LM-LM-78
LM-LM-LM
LM
44-8
84-92
5-LM
Moverare
Kuemper
Rittich
That's $16.3M to
give a raise to Byfield
either give a raise to Roy or give a raise to Spence
replace Viktor Arvidsson
and that assumes that guys like Turcotte and the rest of the "bottom six" players will all be on league minimum contracts. We know Thomas will make LM so you can replace one of the spots with Thomas but perhaps they bring back a Lizotte or a Grundstrom or replace them with players making slightly more than LM
It's a lot easier today than it was yesterday but it's still not as easy as just hand waving away the idea of a salary cap and saying "They have $25M"
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I honestly don't think it has sunk in on everybody yet that we just added a 34 year old retread goalie coming off a bad run who has 3 years left on a bad deal that has a higher cash pay out than cap hit - of $5.25 million.
Can you imagine CELEBRATING this moment at any other time in team history?
Bandit
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Still want these f***tards fired. It’s the only way this turns around.
I wouldn’t say he “got out” of any of those. They paid for Phaneuf’s buyout even though they were rebuilding and didn’t need the cap space, Kovy they were still on the hook for anyway, he got finessed by Briere in that Cal trade, and Kuemper is still an awful goalie and contract. That said, PLD-Kuemper is easily the best value of any of those deals, probably the best value he’s gotten in any trade in his tenure.
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The point is that Kuemper is going to hurt LA less than keeping PLD.
As for goaltending, they need to develop one from within. By the time they grow a goalie who gets a sizeable raise, Kuemper will be gone.
If Blake kept PLD and acquired Ullmark, how much better would they be next season? Ullmark's a definite upgrade in goal, and would be a good fit, but I don't have confidence in the roster construction, plan, or even ability to adhere to a plan.
Blake's like Heath Ledger's Joker
The Kings, imo, need to restock their cupboard. And they need to reevaluate how prospects get integrated into the NHL.
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