Fire Lindy and Green, Now

[crashline]

Live shots from Fitz's office right now ...

 

[britdevil]

Live shots from Fitz's office right now ...

Fitz in response

 

[Devs3cups]

This shit hurts man. Season completely wasted. Nothing has gone right.

Hopefully they learn from this.

 

[Devs3cups]

We have Rangers fans feeling sorry for us now lmfao

 

[NjDevsRR]

We have Rangers fans feeling sorry for us now lmfao

 

[Emperoreddy]

 

[McDuffz88]

We have Rangers fans feeling sorry for us now lmfao

That's when you know we hit rock bottom. Tbh I've never felt so defeated as a fan. This was the game where I call it quits for the season. I was all about prayers that this team would turn it around and that if we traded for a goalie we would be fine. This game solidified to me that the only moves we should be making is selling a retained Toffoli at the deadline for a 1st and giving up for the season. Our team is cooked. This game showed we don't have what it takes. We got bullied the entire game. No backbone at all. It's like watching your wife get f**ked and doing nothing to retaliate. Bastian was completely unnecessary. I literally called it. Right when he game back from his horrific nose injury I said just watch he's going to step on the ice & get laid out which will cause a even bigger injury. Not only did he get laid out but he got punched in the face right where he got hurt. That was pure negligence on Lindy. It's Nate f**king Bastian. He got hurt, okay? Why rush him right back into the game. It's not like Bastian would of made a difference so why risk a player getting more hurt when they're clearly messed up. The dude came back still leaking blood and then got demolished. Even more pathetic is not one player cam stand up for him. We just watch as our players get cucked. I can understand rushing Bastian back if it was a playoff game but this wasn't it. Failure across the entire board. Fitz needs to fire Ruff. Trade Toffoli for a 1st. Wait patiently to the offseason and grab a legit goalie & a coach who will actually be strict with this team. We need a coach who will hold players accountable. Not gift them unlimited top PP minutes because their last name is Hughes. Luke has been awful yet gets gifted top minutes. We also need to bring in some heart & soul players. A player who will stick up for other teammates when the going gets tough. As it stands right now we don't have a single player who will do that.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Wow they met with the two units separately instead of both at once and that didn’t fix it? You would think that’s all it would take

 

[NjDevsRR]

Fire the staff so they can adequately judge the roster in the final two months

 

[Captain3rdLine]

The thing is they’re at a point where a new coach bump or a run of wins will get them right back into the heat of the race. And then maybe a new coach could have a shot at making something out of this season.

But we’re close to being too far gone if we keep this up and it’s highly unlikely that Ruff can make something out of this season at this point. Need a spark at the very least. Some fundamental and cultural changes would be nice too

 

[MadDevil]

So Ruff basically called out the Hughes brothers and blamed the media for the PP being a complete dumpster fire? Yeah, he's not going to be around much longer if that continues.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

So Ruff basically called out the Hughes brothers and blamed the media for the PP being a complete dumpster fire? Yeah, he's not going to be around much longer if that continues.

I mean I actually love him calling out the Hughes brothers. The need to be held accountable. Some meaningful action such as taking them or at least Luke off the first power play unit for the first time would be nice too.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I mean I actually love him calling out the Hughes brothers. The need to be held accountable. Some meaningful action such as taking them or at least Luke off the first power play unit for the first time would be nice too.

You call them out behind the scenes, take ice time away, you bench them. You don't show them zero accountability on the ice then whine to the media.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

You call them out behind the scenes, take ice time away, you bench them. You don't show them zero accountability on the ice then whine to the media.

Completely agree.

 

[JK3]

We need a fresh new face

Spoiler

Dammit, why did you have go and do that. I thought I was at least going to get Rick rolled.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I mean I actually love him calling out the Hughes brothers. The need to be held accountable. Some meaningful action such as taking them or at least Luke off the first power play unit for the first time would be nice too.

Said this in December and got met with LOL's and just tell to Luke to shoot more. Anyone with eyes saw that was hitting a wall and that unit was hitting a wall.

 

[MadDevil]

I mean I actually love him calling out the Hughes brothers. The need to be held accountable. Some meaningful action such as taking them or at least Luke off the first power play unit for the first time would be nice too.

Not saying they don't deserve the criticism, but when Jack seems to be the biggest Ruff supporter it doesn't speak well to then be calling him out in the media. It reeks of desperation, which hopefully means Ruff is feeling some heat from above.

Of course none of this matters if they just keep doing the same shit that doesn't work over and over again and ride Luke into the ground or keep icing suboptimal lineups. It took them until before the All Star break to adjust the defensive coverage. They'll probably adjust the PP with like 10 games left in the season after it no longer matters lol

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I don't care about Lindy not calling out Jack, he's legitimately hurt trying to play. If this shit was happening while he was healthy then yeah rip him to shreds. I also think Jack has the leeway to do what he wants. You don't want your superstar to get neutered, you'll end up with Barzal. Every superstar in this league has that leeway. That being said, Luke needs to f***ing sit. It's gotta miserable watching him hit this wall.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Not saying they don't deserve the criticism, but when Jack seems to be the biggest Ruff supporter it doesn't speak well to then be calling him out in the media. It reeks of desperation, which hopefully means Ruff is feeling some heat from above.

Of course none of this matters if they just keep doing the same shit that doesn't work over and over again and ride Luke into the ground or keep icing suboptimal lineups. It took them until before the All Star break to adjust the defensive coverage. They'll probably adjust the PP with like 10 games left in the season after it no longer matters lol

Part of the reason I think Jack loves Lindy so much is because he gives him so much freedom. As I think I’ve said before I don’t think Jack and Luke have great attitudes and I think we need someone who’s a bit more demanding of Jack to come in a some point if we really want to win. He needs a kick in the ass.

I don't care about Lindy not calling out Jack, he's legitimately hurt trying to play. If this shit was happening while he was healthy then yeah rip him to shreds. I also think Jack has the leeway to do what he wants. You don't want your superstar to get neutered, you'll end up with Barzal. Every superstar in this league has that leeway. That being said, Luke needs to f***ing sit. It's gotta miserable watching him hit this wall.

There’s a balance to it. You want them have leeway but also be responsible and mature with it. Jack isn’t.

The healthy excuse also doesn’t fly. Jack says he’s healthy and if he was badly hurt they wouldn’t be playing him. Lindy’s looking for any excuse he can and at the end of the day there isn’t a single player in the league who is 100% or even close to it at this point in the season.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

There’s a balance to it. You want them have leeway but also be responsible and mature with it. Jack isn’t.

The healthy excuse also doesn’t fly. Jack says he’s healthy and if he was badly hurt they wouldn’t be playing him. Lindy’s looking for any excuse he can and at the end of the day there isn’t a single player in the league who is 100% or even close to it at this point in the season.

I agree, I've been on that train where Jack needs a coach to hold him accountable. But this season is cooked, what's the purpose gonna be if he does it now? The time would've been after that atrocious Flyers game he had that he served a pizza to Owen Tippett for the OT winner but it didn't so get a new voice into the room next year and everyone starts anew. Jack right now is like Ovechkin pre Trotz in Washington. Luke needs to be benched and sit in the press box, two different types of benchings imo.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Give Sarge interim status. Let him gel with the boys and put simplicity back into the gameplan. Hire a full time coach in the off season and make Sarge the new Larry and assistant.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I agree, I've been on that train where Jack needs a coach to hold him accountable. But this season is cooked, what's the purpose gonna be if he does it now? The time would've been after that atrocious Flyers game he had that he served a pizza to Owen Tippett for the OT winner but it didn't so get a new voice into the room next year and everyone starts anew. Jack right now is like Ovechkin pre Trotz in Washington. Luke needs to be benched and sit in the press box, two different types of benchings imo.

The season really isn’t cooked at all. I think we have very little chance if Lindy sticks around much longer but we’re still just a good winning run away from being in a playoff spot.

I think benching Luke is jumping to an extreme. Taking him off PP1 and lowering his minutes which have been high lately would be perfect. Do that and tell him to keep things simple and play smart sound game for a bit. He’s not winning the Calder and the points don’t mean that much. Just have him focus on defense and not making mistakes. They’ve never really done that with him like they did with Nemec in the AHL.

I’ve also said a lot before that while I think he can be good offensively I think his biggest potential will be if he can use his skating and size to become elite defensively. Have him focus on that in a lesser role and with PP2 minutes still.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

The season really isn’t cooked at all. I think we have very little chance if Lindy sticks around much longer but we’re still just a good winning run away from being in a playoff spot.

I think benching Luke is jumping to an extreme. Taking him off PP1 and lowering his minutes which have been high lately would be perfect. Do that and tell him to keep things simple and play smart sound game for a bit. He’s not winning the Calder and the points don’t mean that much. Just have him focus on defense and not making mistakes. They’ve never really done that with him like they did with Nemec in the AHL.

I’ve also said a lot before that while I think he can be good offensively I think his biggest potential will be if he can use his skating and size to become elite defensively. Have him focus on that in a lesser role and with PP2 minutes still.

Yes, the season is cooked. It serves next to no purpose to limp into the playoffs and get absolutely smacked with our top center nursing an injury, top 6 power forward who can't move. The defensive core that is back to shambolic with the middle of ice after a few good games. Playing a young goalie into the ground coming off of hip surgery. All bad coaching decisions. And no, you bench Luke for a game or two in the press box. Bring up Hatakka who was literally the second best dman on the team behind Nemec and was contributing to the team having good defensive nights. And Luke has had elite defensive nights against superstars, he shut down MacK and ended his point streak v Colorado. He's hit a wall, it's the best thing to do. Also, as long as he's dressed, he's gonna play PP1

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Yes, the season is cooked. It serves next to no purpose to limp into the playoffs and get absolutely smacked with our top center nursing an injury, top 6 power forward who can't move. The defensive core that is back to shambolic with the middle of ice after a few good games. Playing a young goalie into the ground coming off of hip surgery. All bad coaching decisions. And no, you bench Luke for a game or two in the press box. Bring up Hatakka who was literally the second best dman on the team behind Nemec and was contributing to the team having good defensive nights. And he has had elite defensive nights against superstars, he shut down MacK and ended his point streak v Colorado. He's hit a wall, it's the best thing to do. Also, as long as he's dressed, he's gonna play PP1

That’s a load of horseshit. If we get into the playoffs it won’t be by limping in. The only way we can do it is by finishing strong. The Hughes nursing an injury thing is made up bs. Maybe he’s not 100% but as I said no one is.

The whole point of a coaching change is that you would be hoping to fix some of the things you mentioned. Fix the defensive game a bit, maybe spark Meier and some other guys, bring a little stability to the goaltending. These are all possible.

Benching Luke Hughes would be stupid. As much as he’s had his struggles he’s wayy better than Smith or even Bahl or Siegenthaler. As I said ease up his minutes and PP time and have him playing a safe sound game for a while. There’s no reason he has to be on pp1 if he’s playing and completely benching him is jumping to an extreme and over multiple first steps. Would hurt the team. Ideally Hatakka is up to and you’re running some variation like this.

Hughes Marino
Hattaka Nemec
Bahl/Siegs Miller

Find what pairings work best and play them based on who’s doing the best on a game by game and period by period basis.

Saying the season is 100% cooked is stupid tho. We’re a coaching change and a decent winning run away from feeling 1000 times better about things and our chances.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

That’s a load of horseshit. If we get into the playoffs it won’t be by limping in. The only way we can do it is by finishing strong. The Hughes nursing an injury thing is made up bs. Maybe he’s not 100% but as I said no one is.

The whole point of a coaching change is that you would be hoping to fix some of the things you mentioned. Fix the defensive game a bit, maybe spark Meier and some other guys, bring a little stability to the goaltending. These are all possible.

Benching Luke Hughes would be stupid. As much as he’s had his struggles he’s wayy better than Smith or even Bahl or Siegenthaler. As I said ease up his minutes and PP time and have him playing a safe sound game for a while. There’s no reason he has to be on pp1 if he’s playing and completely benching him is jumping to an extreme and over multiple first steps. Would hurt the team. Ideally Hatakka is up to and you’re running some variation like this.

Hughes Marino
Hattaka Nemec
Bahl/Siegs Miller

Find what pairings work best and play them based on who’s doing the best on a game by game and period by period basis.

Saying the season is 100% cooked is stupid tho. We’re a coaching change and a decent winning run away from feeling 1000 times better about things and our chances.

They have a chance to catch TB but they lose that game Sunday, it's officially more over than it is right now. Look at their March schedule with a straight face and please tell me that they can legitimately go on a run. They've lost to some utter garbage teams to get back in the mix, even tonight was very winnable. You can keep going on about them "going on a streak" when I literally don't think they've had a long winning streak all year but yeah they'll just randomly go on one this late in the year. And a coaching in late February is the dumbest thing I've heard, who are you legitimately going to bring this late or install from this coaching staff to bring in the reigns? Travis Green who's literally managing a horrendous PP? Yeah man, that'll go over well. The time was to fire Lindy was pre ASB, it didn't happen so just move on with this year.