Speculation: Fire Glen Sather

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Executives with contracts can still be fired. Happens all the time in the NHL.

Not that Sather actually has a contract that says "until resignation or death."
 
Who are all the current players he has acquired that you would fire him over? When would you prefer that we fire him?

Yeah, because mentioning a player or two to fire a GM over makes perfect sense. Please. Even you are better than that.
 
Yeah, because mentioning a player or two to fire a GM over makes perfect sense. Please. Even you are better than that.

I did not ask for a simple player or 2. I asked you to name all the current players you would fire him over? Are you firing him over our current team or mistakes he made in the past? I'm pretty proud of my morals in life. Sorry you seem to find me to be a low person.
 
Who are all the current players he has acquired that you would fire him over? When would you prefer that we fire him?

Sorry, with questions like this, I no longer care what you think, or care to engage in any type of debate with you. Not worth it. Enjoy the playoffs.
 
Sorry, with questions like this, I no longer care what you think, or care to engage in any type of debate with you. Not worth it. Enjoy the playoffs.

I am enjoying the playoffs. Win or lose I really enjoy this current team. There was nothing wrong with asking which current players you would fire Slats for acquiring. Maybe you should ask yourself why you find that question so offensive.
 
I am enjoying the playoffs. Win or lose I really enjoy this current team. There was nothing wrong with asking which current players you would fire Slats for acquiring. Maybe you should ask yourself why you find that question so offensive.

You worry about you, and I'll worry about me.

I'm glad you are enjoying the playoffs - they certainly now have the potential to be much more enjoyable, too. Let's Go Rangers.
 
Sorry Gents. Don't mean to stir anything up here, or be an Dolan autobot, but we're preparing for Game 2 of the EC Finals (our second Conference finals in 3 seasons), up 1-0, and we're still discussing firing the GM?

LGR.
 
Sorry Gents. Don't mean to stir anything up here, or be an Dolan autobot, but we're preparing for Game 2 of the EC Finals (our second Conference finals in 3 seasons), up 1-0, and we're still discussing firing the GM?

LGR.


That's what I was thinking. This is not a bad team he's built. There were more good calls than bad ones.

1. We draft significantly better than your average team. People like to whine that we didn't draft the player who turned into the best one available 5 years later, but that isn't a reasonable demand. If we draft more and better players than the vast majority of the league, the fact that we drafted Staal instead of Stastny is not a sign that the GM failed since Staal was a tremendous pick, better than almost anyone drafted after him. In some cases (like Stepan) when we drafted literally the best player available in the rest of the draft, they still whine that Slats didn't draft a superstar that simply wasn't there the rest of the draft.


2. We signed some great UDFAs like Girardi and Zuccarello. Other depth FAs were also great like Stralman, Pouliot and Moore. There were a few UFAs who were signed for large amounts, but people just don't understand that UFAs get paid more than RFAs.


3. The trading has been great. Gaborik for Brass, Door and Moore was a very good trade. Sure Gabby is doing well in LA, but our trio will be helpful for a long time, whereas Gabby would've left our team after this Spring. McDonagh was one of the all-time biggest rip-offs. St. Louis trade looks good so far, particularly if we make the Finals instead of being eliminated in the first round (as would've happened without MSL). Lindberg was acquired for a bust. Carcillo for nothing. Prust was a good pick up. Sanguinetti got a good return (including Jesper Fast). Boyle was had for very little.

Yes, there were a few clunkers like Zherdev, Clowe, McCabe and Wolski, but overall, Stals acquired more than he gave up if you look at all the trades combined.


4. We are now a top NHL team. We are in the ECF for the second time in three years, which no one else has done.


There is hate for Slats because he messed up in the first few years pre-lockout, and then people were unwilling to give him time when he began doing the right thing, but the reality is that he's done a good job since he began rebuilding the team with the 2004 fire-sale.
 
We have the most wins in the playoffs now. Yeah, fire Sather... [rolling my eyes]
 
I feel like the David Brent quote in my sig accurately represents Sather's mantra for a good chunk of his years here.
 
We have the most wins in the playoffs now. Yeah, fire Sather... [rolling my eyes]

Gotta admit, though, he's bounced back lately. Can't think of any particularly poor moves he's made over the past few years. Nash trade has been meh in the end, and losing Dubi/1st sucks, but he's managed to find quality depth to replace them, while adding more top end talent to supplement Nash, and letting Kreider grow into his top-6 role. Can't believe he traded Callahan, either. I give him a ton of credit on that end. Tough to do that.

Not to mention the AV hiring.
 
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How many teams have a higher winning pct than the Rangers since 2006?

How many teams have played in more playoff games than the Rangers since 2006?

Could be worse.
 
Honestly since the Redden contract, what legitimately bad moves has he made since then?

The signings of Brashear, Boogaard, Rupp all backfired pretty much immediately, but the they weren't exactly crippling.

Frolov had broken down, but that was only a 1-year deal and didn't hinder us in the least. It was just empty cap space otherwise.

I can't think of more, am I forgetting something?

Since the summer of 2009 I struggle to find many GMs who have done a better job.
 
Honestly since the Redden contract, what legitimately bad moves has he made since then?

The signings of Brashear, Boogaard, Rupp all backfired pretty much immediately, but the they weren't exactly crippling.

Frolov had broken down, but that was only a 1-year deal and didn't hinder us in the least. It was just empty cap space otherwise.

I can't think of more, am I forgetting something?

Since the summer of 2009 I struggle to find many GMs who have done a better job.

I thought the Kotalik contract was an infinitely bad signing. But, he was able to work his way out of that one, and picked up Prust in the process. His moves this year have all been gold.
 
I thought the Kotalik contract was an infinitely bad signing. But, he was able to work his way out of that one, and picked up Prust in the process. His moves this year have all been gold.

Forgot about Kotalik, that contract was horrendous!
 
Honestly since the Redden contract, what legitimately bad moves has he made since then?

The signings of Brashear, Boogaard, Rupp all backfired pretty much immediately, but the they weren't exactly crippling.

Frolov had broken down, but that was only a 1-year deal and didn't hinder us in the least. It was just empty cap space otherwise.

I can't think of more, am I forgetting something?

Since the summer of 2009 I struggle to find many GMs who have done a better job.

Boogaard and Rupp? Brashear, yuck, but Nothing wrong with those two, explain?
 
Boogaard and Rupp? Brashear, yuck, but Nothing wrong with those two, explain?

They were pretty useless players for the Rangers in a lot of ways, but I also put "blame" on Torts for asking to acquire those kind of players. I think he had an influence there. Then again, Slats hired Torts, sooo...

Richards could be considered a bad contract but at the time it was pretty fine, no way to predict the league would retroactively punish those contracts, and they still have an out.

St Louis is a classic Sather gamble IMO, but tempered a bit from what I might have expected in the past. Purely draft picks and a player who would be leaving soon, versus prospects or young players and picks, etc. Still, if the Rangers win the cup the move looks fantastic. If they don't, well it could hurt down the road.

I think Sather has flailed around a bit trying to find a combination of players that works but that can be good and bad...instead of sticking with something forever that doesn't seem to be working, he's quick to move the pieces around and try again, but maybe wastes some resources in doing so.
 

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