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Speculation: Fire Glen Sather

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Wolfy said:
We'll see about that. Interesting how Hank's game went down rapidly after the signing. It's like he doesn't give a **** anymore, cuz he got a truckload of $ no matter what happens.
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Lol at questioning Henrik's competitiveness. :laugh:


He wasn't good before the contract signing either. He's just having a bad year. It happens.
 
The scary thing is who really knows how much Sather is really responsible for the last few years. Gorton's been working with him closely during that time and I have to think it's been a joint effort for the most part.

I'm starting to wonder if our once deemed 'savior' in Gorton is just as much to blame and should be headed out right behind the old man. Who knows. It's a long year and things can change quickly, but if the Rangers continue to play this way over the course of the next couple months the Management really needs to take a hard look at this squad and make some decisions that may not sit well with a lot of fans, to get this ship going in a better direction.
 
Slather has been responsible for the past 14 years.Under his management,one conference finals to show on his résumé. Despite the apparent love for Gordie Clark, the drafts have not produced quality players. Please name the graduates of our farm system developed by management over the past ten years.The trades last were a disaster. There is no and has not been a long term building plan. Slather is the issue and has to go
 
Unfortunately, the longer these clowns stay in the mix the longer it will take to right the ship. Considering a draft pick is a 4-5 yr ordeal and considering it will take 3-5 yrs to overhaul a team and be lucky to get it right the first time-we are looking at 2018. Maybe by 2020 we will have a better vision of how things will be going with this organization. But any cup aspirations is a joke.
 
DekeR said:
Unfortunately, the longer these clowns stay in the mix the longer it will take to right the ship. Considering a draft pick is a 4-5 yr ordeal and considering it will take 3-5 yrs to overhaul a team and be lucky to get it right the first time-we are looking at 2018. Maybe by 2020 we will have a better vision of how things will be going with this organization. But any cup aspirations is a joke.
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This is what is so disheartening. I'm convinced it's never going to happen with this administration, and the longer they hang on, the longer it will be before we can even START going in the right direction.

Here is what I see coming short term: A BIG trade before the deadline that brings in a couple of mercenaries who help squeak out just enough wins to get us into the playoffs, and then maybe we win 2 in the first round.

False hope for next season. "We're just a few tweaks away..."

Of course next season the mercenaries come out flat and blad-de blah-de blah

Please start posting to Twitter: #firesather and #retiresather

We need to get this trending so Brooksie can report it
 
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People should say Fire Sather at MSG instead of saying LGR. Let him hear it
 
Blueshirt Special said:
Please start posting to Twitter: #firesather and #retiresather

We need to get this trending so Brooksie can report it
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The way to pull this off is to have it chanted at the game, while encouraging everyone to tweet about it. This way fans at the arena and the fans at home are in on it, and twitterverse gets in on at too.

Something creative that makes that embarrasses the organization. FireSather is so 2004.
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
The scary thing is who really knows how much Sather is really responsible for the last few years. Gorton's been working with him closely during that time and I have to think it's been a joint effort for the most part.

I'm starting to wonder if our once deemed 'savior' in Gorton is just as much to blame and should be headed out right behind the old man. Who knows. It's a long year and things can change quickly, but if the Rangers continue to play this way over the course of the next couple months the Management really needs to take a hard look at this squad and make some decisions that may not sit well with a lot of fans, to get this ship going in a better direction.
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Gorton isn't the only AGM on the team. Gorton is responsible for contract negotiations and the day to day operations. Handling the cap. Waivers. This is Gorton's 3rd year as AGM. Schoenfeld has been in his position since 2007. He is also the GM of the AHL team. Whenever the team discusses moves,everyone has a say. That's the problem. Too many people. Go look at Gorton's work with Boston. His fingerprints are all over that Bruin team.

Rick Nash is a Sather move. No different than Lindros,Bure or Jagr. Slats loves those type of players. He acquired the latter 3 before Gorton was in the organization.

Sather is the problem.
 
RangerBoy said:
Gorton isn't the only AGM on the team. Gorton is responsible for contract negotiations and the day to day operations. Handling the cap. Waivers. This is Gorton's 3rd year as AGM. Schoenfeld has been in his position since 2007. He is also the GM of the AHL team. Whenever the team discusses moves,everyone has a say. That's the problem. Too many people. Go look at Gorton's work with Boston. His fingerprints are all over that Bruin team.

Rick Nash is a Sather move. No different than Lindros,Bure or Jagr. Slats loves those type of players. He acquired the latter 3 before Gorton was in the organization.

Sather is the problem.
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Holy jockstrap Batman - Is Ranger Boy really Jeff Gorton? The plot thickens... ;)
 
Said it before, I'll say it again. Sather's continuous span as a GM in this league from 1990-present is one of the worst, most pathetic tenures of a front office exec in any major North American professional sport. No one else in sports has continuously worked for so long despite nothing but failure. When you consider the length of each of their respective tenures, Mike Milbury and Glen Sather are clearly the two worst GMs in NHL history, and it's not even close.

Glen Sather is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise. Well, besides James Dolan.
 
NYR Sting said:
Said it before, I'll say it again. Sather's continuous span as a GM in this league from 1990-present is one of the worst, most pathetic tenures of a front office exec in any major North American professional sport. No one else in sports has continuously worked for so long despite nothing but failure. When you consider the length of each of their respective tenures, Mike Milbury and Glen Sather are clearly the two worst GMs in NHL history, and it's not even close.

Glen Sather is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise. Well, besides James Dolan.
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Nice rant. I approve of this message!
 
NYR Sting said:
Said it before, I'll say it again. Sather's continuous span as a GM in this league from 1990-present is one of the worst, most pathetic tenures of a front office exec in any major North American professional sport. No one else in sports has continuously worked for so long despite nothing but failure. When you consider the length of each of their respective tenures, Mike Milbury and Glen Sather are clearly the two worst GMs in NHL history, and it's not even close.

Glen Sather is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise. Well, besides James Dolan.
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spot on.
 
NYR Sting said:
Said it before, I'll say it again. Sather's continuous span as a GM in this league from 1990-present is one of the worst, most pathetic tenures of a front office exec in any major North American professional sport. No one else in sports has continuously worked for so long despite nothing but failure. When you consider the length of each of their respective tenures, Mike Milbury and Glen Sather are clearly the two worst GMs in NHL history, and it's not even close.

Glen Sather is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise. Well, besides James Dolan.
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You cant put Sather and Milbury in the same sentence. Milbury traded away an entire section of the Hall of Fame, and the Isles havent won a playoff series in 20 years.

People act like Sather is the first Rangers GM to struggle to piece together a Cup team, make poor draft picks, trade for underachieving veterans and overvalue/overate the wrong players.

One Cup in 73 years. Sather is just another casualty. He didnt create the problem.

Look at the Habs -- one CF appearance in the last 20 years, and that was the fluke of flukes. Hell, even the Pens with all their firepower cant get to the SCF.

And from a Rangers standpoint, nobody was worse than Esposito who literally did whatever he could to destroy the franchise.
 
You really want to make a statement don't show up but tickets are paid for already so I am not going to say waste your money. But paper bags should be passed out to everyone before the game and worn for the opening faceoff.
 
Sather's UFA's are what is killing them.

Not one of his UFAs who struggled here went on to recapture their pre-Rangers skill/abilities. Just horrible talent evaluation

Richards has been a disappointment. Drury retired. Redden was an 8th d-man. Gaborik is back to being Gaborik. Gomez had a small glimmer in the 2010 CF run but he's been hot garbage since then. Kotalik is out of the NHL. Naslund retired after his lone season.

To this day, the best Rangers team Sather assembled was the 2007 team. They were built on the cheap, were balanced and were injected with youth who contributed. They were a weak goal away from likely upsetting the best team in the NHL and getting to the CF.

Straka, Jagr and Nylander cost the Rangers nothing and by the end of 2008 all were gone.

The problem in 2012 was depth on defense and special teams. The solution to that would have been a PP QB who can play 20 mins. The Devils got Zidlicky for nothing. He would have been perfect for that team in terms of addressing a need.

It all boils down to sather being stubborn. He deserves credit for some of his moves, but he isnt a good GM, and hasnt been one since the mid-1980s.

Somebody explain to me how a guy trades Gretzky, Messier, Fuhr, Coffey, Lowe, Tikkanen and Anderson in a five year period, and the assets he acquires make the Oilers no better than 7 straight losing seasons.

Jason Bonsignore, how's life treating you?
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
The last time you can talk about Sather's "best days as a GM" without a smirk was 1990
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You misquoted me. I said "best days as Rangers GM"

And that's really the point here: He's come as close as he is ever going to come to winning a Cup for The New York Rangers.

And it wont be straight downhil either, oh no! It will be a sideways zig zagging mess of disappointing playoff appearances and embarassing losses to rivals at home.

I have seen the future, and it is our past.
 
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A guy could get a mite depressed looking at this thread. Unfortunately, the pessimists are 100% on target. Nothing will change until Sather leaves or is removed.
 
LOL....I remember the Maple Leaf fans wearing bags over their heads a long time ago during the Red Kelly era .:) It does send a message especially if a lot of people wear them at the game .
 
BBKers said:
Holy jockstrap Batman - Is Ranger Boy really Jeff Gorton? The plot thickens... ;)
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I like Gorton. If you look at the Bruins,he had a major role with that team winning the Cup and being a competitive team since 2009. Boston has been good for a while. They lost a bad series to Carolina in 2009. Blew a 3-0 lead to Philly in 2010. Won the Cup in 2011. Lost in the first round in 2012. Lost in the Cup finals in 2013.

The other guys in this organization haven't done anything since 1990. Schoenfeld had zero FO experience when he was elevated to his current role when Maloney left for Phoenix.

Pittsburgh is one of the best organizations in the NHL

Their AHL team is successful

They have earned a reputation as an organization that promotes worthy players, even when there isn't a personnel crisis on the parent team, and that's a powerful selling point when trying to lure unrestricted free agents hoping to prove they are worthy of full-time work in the NHL.

The kind of free agents who are contributing so much now.

"It's certainly something we promote a lot to free agents of all kinds," said assistant general manager Jason Botterill, who doubles as GM of the Baby Penguins.

"What's happened with the Group 6 free agents and the Group 3 free agents -- guys like Andrew Ebbett or Chris Conner -- is we're continually showing, year-in and year-out, that we're utilizing these players."

New York Islanders winger Colin McDonald is one who parlayed good work in Wilkes-Barre and a cameo with the Penguins (five games in 2011-12) into a steady job in the NHL.

Bill Guerin, Tom Fitzgerald and goalie coach Mike Buckley, who make up the Penguins' developmental staff, are charged with polishing the games of not only promising young prospects, but older players trying to use Wilkes-Barre/Scranton as a launch pad to the NHL.

"We're working with 21-year-old players, but we're also working with the 28-year-old or 29-year-old who's down there, trying to get to the National Hockey League," Botterill said.

"With our development staff, their responsibilities aren't just to work with our young players. It's to work with all of our players."
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http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...ning-the-value-of-a-team/stories/201312220131

The Rangers don't have development coaches working with the AHL players. Other teams have a director of player development. Not the Rangers.
 
RangerBoy said:
I like Gorton. If you look at the Bruins,he had a major role with that team winning the Cup and being a competitive team since 2009. Boston has been good for a while. They lost a bad series to Carolina in 2009. Blew a 3-0 lead to Philly in 2010. Won the Cup in 2011. Lost in the first round in 2012. Lost in the Cup finals in 2013.

The other guys in this organization haven't done anything since 1990. Schoenfeld had zero FO experience when he was elevated to his current role when Maloney left for Phoenix.

Pittsburgh is one of the best organizations in the NHL

Their AHL team is successful



http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...ning-the-value-of-a-team/stories/201312220131

The Rangers don't have development coaches working with the AHL players. Other teams have a director of player development. Not the Rangers.
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That's a very telling piece of information.
 
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