Proposal: Fire DJ Smith
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Nac Mac Feegle
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That is a huge part of the problem. If things don't go 100% to plan, the guys on the ice fumble badly and have no clue how to think the game and improvise on the fly. Really the only high Hockey IQ players we have are Giroux, Sanderson, and possibly Greig. Brady and Chabot have decent HIQ...although it seems to go mia for Chabot half the time. The rest of the team...woof.
I am so tired of people trotting out the goal of "having meaningful games" in March because it allows for such a broad interpretation of success. For many the Sens not being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by now is a reason to rejoice. For myself and others the steady improvement of last year and the major additions at the start of the year gave expectations that the Sens could seriously challenge for a wild card spot.
If you are content with your team being only somewhat competitive, then more power to you. But don't be upset when your team doesn't receive their participation medals at the end of the season.
Golden_Jet
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I'm not sure why there seems to be a parade of excuses for DJ. The NHL is results oriented business.
He simply is not getting the desired results. Somehow this is being turned into a subjective debate. The desired result for EVERY team is to win games and make the playoffs. If that isn't the plan at the start of the year, get into another line of work.
He simply is not getting the desired results. Somehow this is being turned into a subjective debate. The desired result for EVERY team is to win games and make the playoffs. If that isn't the plan at the start of the year, get into another line of work.
Tuna99
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Meaningful in your heart, not in the stats column.
If you don’t find NHL Hockey meaningful you are a monster - of course this season is a success because the goal was to not be in last place - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Honestly I think the fans are worried about virtually upsetting Brady and Timmy - I think they believe these two players love the coach, therefore they back the coach in an effort to be on the positive side of the star players emotions and this also helps them simply deny the absolutely weak job of coaching NHL hockey DJ has done with the excuse that his goal of accomplishing nothing besides feeling “meaningful” was the goal all along
DJ is getting the results you'd expect from an inexperienced team. Add in the fact that they lost Norris for the whole year from the jump, that Zub has missed ~30 games, that Batherson is still recovering from his high ankle sprain and has played horrible hockey this year and that Sanderson is a rookie and you have the results we currently see.
They could go into next year with the exact same lineup - healthy - and the same coaching staff and I'd expect 2nd or 3rd seed in the division. And it would come down to nothing more than a little experience under their belts.
Of course, the argument can and should be made that a new voice could be very useful to continue their ascension into true contender territory. But it has to be a coach with a lengthy track record of success, not just change for the sake of change, like hiring a first time coach.
They could go into next year with the exact same lineup - healthy - and the same coaching staff and I'd expect 2nd or 3rd seed in the division. And it would come down to nothing more than a little experience under their belts.
Of course, the argument can and should be made that a new voice could be very useful to continue their ascension into true contender territory. But it has to be a coach with a lengthy track record of success, not just change for the sake of change, like hiring a first time coach.
Why? I was showing how the Sens were trending in the last 3/4 of last year not making a direct year over year comparison.
Golden_Jet
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To eliminate cherry picked stats, obviously didn’t take a Statistics course.(s)
My advice to you is don't start making accusations about things you have no knowledge about my friend.
TREND
noun
a general direction in which something is developing or changing.
Tuna99
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I would say our coaching is terrible. The fact that these are important games and the coach is unable to keep us in them is telling. This team looks lawless out there lately and that is on the coach. Our defensive breakdowns, the short handed chances we've given the other teams in multiple games now, the odd man rushes are all related to the coach not keeping the attention of the players.
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I'll give D.J. credit for not giving the fans hope for too long and allowing the "meaningful games in March" narrative to get exposed/undermined just in time for St. Patrick's Day.
Joeyjoejoe
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Our defence got worse after acquiring a top 2 dman. - DJ Smith Hockey.
Micklebot
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The desired result for every team is to win the cup, it's a result oriented business, time to fire 31 coaches I guess...
Tuna99
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Seriously? What evidence have you gathered in the last 4 years to believe DJ is the only coach to guide this team?
You say injuries, I saw he can’t overcome injuries.
You saw Chabot is bad, I say a better coach makes Chabot a better player even an All Star
You say he met his goals, I say he has no real goals
You say the players have improved, I say Chabot, ADB, Pinto, Zub and others have looked terrible this year
Big Muddy
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I hope we are healthier next year. But, it seems like teams have noteworthy injuries more times than not during a season.
Gil Gunderson
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very concerned that a lot of young players are not really improving their defensive game and if anything may have regressed. Chabot, Bath, DBC, Brady are strugglinggggg. Don't even know what Norris looks like
Also our constant slow start in games and in the season in general is concerning. 5 on 5 play is another huge red flag
Lets have a new voice
Also our constant slow start in games and in the season in general is concerning. 5 on 5 play is another huge red flag
Lets have a new voice
Micklebot
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The point I made was about team expectations and goals leading into seasons, you seem confused since your reply is all over the place.
Tuna99
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Do you think after seeing the last 5 games this team has accomplished it’s goals?
They look terrible. Make excuses all about injuries you want but DJ has had these guys for 60 games and they look as lost as game 1. I don’t see progress, I just improved talent overcoming structureless play, and that’s not coaching that’s just Stutzle, Sanderson, Giroux and Tkachuk upping the talent level while the coaching has remained stagnant (to be friendly, in reality the HCing is poor)
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It's not really. You set goals that are measurable, realistic and achievable. Not every team has the same goals going into a season since certain goals just aren't realistic for all teams.
Making the playoffs this year would have been a big reach, that's just a fact based on where the other 16 teams in the conference are in their development. The team set a goal a notch below that, which imo was far more reasonable. Seems like they've barely met the goal, or at least they were meeting it until this Western road trip.
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