Confirmed with Link: Finnish Aho signs offer sheet from Finnish Montreal (5 years, $8.54M AAV) - Part 2 (Mod warning #1)

[MarkovsKnee]

I just don't get if they are going to match why they don't do it now. Show your fanbase you are serious about keeping your young stars. Why wait?

They think tying up Montreal's cap space is a good retaliatory action; nevermind that Montreal still has $14m in cap space.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I'm assuming the Canes match and then negotiations begin from there. Apparently Aho really wants to be a Hab?

If they match, they can't trade him for a year. If Dundon seriously doesn't want to pay the bonuses, he has to negotiate a side deal with Montreal where Montreal would give up something(s) in exchange for Carolina not matching.

But Carolina probably has to match. That organization is in serious trouble if they don't.

 

[sandysan]

Sort of. Say right now, MB offers Suzuki, 2021 and 2022 first for Carolina’s 2022 first, while Carolina does NOT match, they can do that.

The magic eight ball says
"Yes"

 

[lou4gehrig]

There's no downside to having cap space. None. Vegas went to the Cup finals by having almost unlimited cap space (initially). So we got Shaw off the books. Perfect. We could absorb other contracts, get draft picks or even trade for 2020 RFA and sign them. So either we get Aho or another good young player in this window or over the next year.

 

[sandysan]

If they match, they can't trade him for a year. If Dundon seriously doesn't want to pay the bonuses, he has to negotiate a side deal with Montreal where Montreal would give up something(s) in exchange for Carolina not matching.

But Carolina probably has to match. That organization is in serious trouble if they don't.

Damned if they do.....
Damn if they don't

(Maybe)

You can't get blood from an onion.

 

[Captain Mountain]

That isn't why they're waiting. It wouldn't matter anyway. The Habs could go 10% over the cap. If they 100% knew they'd be matching, it'd get done within a day or two I'd think.

But Montreal can't really do less than a four 1sts offersheet while they wait.

 

[Le Tricolore]

But Montreal can't really do less than a four 1sts offersheet while they wait.

They could. Compensation doesn't need to be for the next year, I believe. I doubt the team would have two pending offer sheets going anyway.

 

[ottawa]

They may just want to wait the 7 days to make Montreal sweat and tie up their cap.

Not that I think Montreal actually cares.

Tie up our cap? We have 4m + 10% available so like 13m total.

 

[habsfan891]

But Montreal can't really do less than a four 1sts offersheet while they wait.

Are the 2nd and 3rd round picks not deferrable to the next year like the 1st?

 

[Runner77]

I think there were talks before the OS.

Bergevin said that he contacted Waddell for the first time, this morning.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Damned if they do.....
Damn if they don't

(Maybe)

You can't get blood from an onion.

I would have tried to make the decision tougher on Carolina, but I appreciate that Bergevin realized that a middling UFA wasn't going to make difference for Montreal.

People can complain about the cap space all they want, but it's better not to spend it than spend it poorly.

 

[Roadhouse]

If it doesn't work... similar offersheet to Laine? Pair him with Kotka?

Lower tier player than Aho, still a Finnish connection and one hell of a shot. Pay Carey the Laine-rate when he's on the ice to even out the defensive lapses.

 

[habsfan891]

Bergevin said that he contacted Waddell for the first time, this morning.

Interesting OS seems like a starting offer at that point strange way to try and start a deal

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Bergevin said that he contacted Waddell for the first time, this morning.

Before the OS, yes?

What do you think they talked about? Lamp shadings?

 

[Sniperr]

Canes fans are very salty about this

 

[sandysan]

Bergevin said that he contacted Waddell for the first time, this morning.

And wadell said they were talking, they had an idea it might come to this but he didn't know it would happen on day one.

Bergevin might be exploiting the 6X8 bad blood but he didn't start it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The Canes will match this. The whole 21 million dollars in the first year was a good ploy by MB but the Canes owner is loaded and will throw everything at Aho. Waddell will make MB stress until the last minute. Wether Aho remains with the Hurricanes after a year, that is another topic we can discuss when the time comes. The Canes will not let their franchise player walk and the owner knows he has more to lose by letting him go, plain and simple. MB send a message that he is serious about winning and spending, I believe this why this move was made. Hopefully, other tight cap teams reach out to the Habs now. MB has nothing to lose.

$11.3M in less than 7 days, then $9.87M next July right? Or is it $21M in less than 7 days?

 

[sandysan]

I would have tried to make the decision tougher on Carolina, but I appreciate that Bergevin realized that a middling UFA wasn't going to make difference for Montreal.

People can complain about the cap space all they want, but it's better not to spend it than spend it poorly.

They STILL CAN make the decision tougher.

For the next 7 days.

 

[JuicyHam]

Tie up our cap? We have 4m + 10% available so like 13m total.

Plus burying/waiving Alzner and Weise would clear up a couple more million.

 

[Zorba]

If it doesn't work... similar offersheet to Laine? Pair him with Kotka?

Lower tier player than Aho, still a Finnish connection and one hell of a shot. Pay Carey the Laine-rate when he's on the ice to even out the defensive lapses.

Laine a lower tier player?? Um ok.

 

[Saundies]

Canes fans are very salty about this

They should be, he's their best player.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Are the 2nd and 3rd round picks not deferrable to the next year like the 1st?

It actually might be, I'm not entirely sure. I'm just going off what I read somewhere.

But I doubt Bergevin tenders two offersheets at once.

It's a pretty big deal that Aho actually signed this one. It means he's willing to go to Montreal at a relatively reasonable AAV. Lavoie was on 590 suggesting Aho wasn't really happy in Carolina for what it's worth.

 

[Adam Michaels]

If they match, they can't trade him for a year. If Dundon seriously doesn't want to pay the bonuses, he has to negotiate a side deal with Montreal where Montreal would give up something(s) in exchange for Carolina not matching.

But Carolina probably has to match. That organization is in serious trouble if they don't.

Send them Suzuki plus a 2021 3rd Round Pick for whatever.

Canes don't match. Aho comes to Montreal.

It becomes Aho + whatever for Suzuki + a 2020 1st + a 2020 2nd + a 2020 3rd + a 2021 3rd.

 

[Habaneros]

Canes fans are very salty about this

you remember when they beat us last year ,and did that after game celebration ?????????????? Yeah ...here ya go ..lol only cost ya 21 million over 12 months...

 

[sandysan]

Canes fans are very salty about this

Maybe they shouldn't lowball their pending RFA's.

That might help