Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[Runner77]

Filthy.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Saku Koivu special.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Nice Bait

He now has 34 pts in 32 games BTW

Perhaps Slaf would have done better in the OHL, who knows... however its one thing to dominate out of physicality and another through skill and speed. Mesar has proven he can translate his game in the NHL againts men. So your take is bs. Slaf we have the proof the game is too fast for him.

Mesar is 2,3 levels ahead of Slaf in terms of hockey.

He's been disappointing most of the season. Great out of the gates, then slumped below a ppg for most of the season, has had a few hot games since the coach was fired and is just above a ppg...but based on the hype (draft position, habs fan hype, and personal viewings in NHL pre season, drawn out saga of whether he'll play in the AHL or not) he's been disappointing. Some of that could be related to the bad coaching, but even on a really bad team I would have expected him in the 1.5ppg area at least. He hasn't proven anything against men unless you think pre-season is the same as regular season NHL play.

he's hands down the most offensively productive player of the rangers, he gets 3-4 opportunities to his teammates every night and another 2-3 for himself. He does this consistently against any team. He did it yesterday and against London.

When you look at their games there's always one player that shines that does something exciting and its Mesar. He easily can become a 90 pts producer in the NHL, but for that he needs to develop his shot and a bit of strength, everything else he's more than ready for.

the only people who are under-evaluating him are the ones who don't watch him.



hello? he played pre-season games... he was better than Slaf in those few games.

you don't know what you're talking about and your takes are baseless, its pathetic

No he isn't lol...Pinelli is far and away more offensively productive by every metric this season. He gets opportunities but is also invisible when he doesn't have the puck most nights. If you see a 90 point player from the same OHL games I've been watching all year....well I don't know what to tell you other than I highly doubt you'd have that opinion if he wasn't a MTL prospect.

 

[BaseballCoach]

He's been disappointing most of the season. Great out of the gates, then slumped below a ppg for most of the season, has had a few hot games since the coach was fired and is just above a ppg...but based on the hype (draft position, habs fan hype, and personal viewings in NHL pre season, drawn out saga of whether he'll play in the AHL or not) he's been disappointing. Some of that could be related to the bad coaching, but even on a really bad team I would have expected him in the 1.5ppg area at least. He hasn't proven anything against men unless you think pre-season is the same as regular season NHL play.


No he isn't lol...Pinelli is far and away more offensively productive by every metric this season. He gets opportunities but is also invisible when he doesn't have the puck most nights. If you see a 90 point player from the same OHL games I've been watching all year....well I don't know what to tell you other than I highly doubt you'd have that opinion if he wasn't a MTL prospect.

If you ask Mesar, he will tell you that Slaf is better than him.

 

[Bombshell11]

He's been disappointing most of the season. Great out of the gates, then slumped below a ppg for most of the season, has had a few hot games since the coach was fired and is just above a ppg...but based on the hype (draft position, habs fan hype, and personal viewings in NHL pre season, drawn out saga of whether he'll play in the AHL or not) he's been disappointing. Some of that could be related to the bad coaching, but even on a really bad team I would have expected him in the 1.5ppg area at least. He hasn't proven anything against men unless you think pre-season is the same as regular season NHL play.


No he isn't lol...Pinelli is far and away more offensively productive by every metric this season. He gets opportunities but is also invisible when he doesn't have the puck most nights. If you see a 90 point player from the same OHL games I've been watching all year....well I don't know what to tell you other than I highly doubt you'd have that opinion if he wasn't a MTL prospect.

The disappointing time you're referring too was right in the middle where he had World juniors duties. If you actually watch him play you will see he's the guy that produces the most chances.
Pinelli in some games will score 4 pts in some others he completely disappears. That is happening because he's limited talent wise, where as Mesar gets 5-8 chances per night. Other than Mesar none of the Ranger's players will be able to translate their game into the NHL, Mesar will be just as good and better as he's getting stronger.

He's got the full package and he's very modest, perfect for a captain in mtl eventually

 

[Coaches Coroner]

The disappointing time you're referring too was right in the middle where he had World juniors duties. If you actually watch him play you will see he's the guy that produces the most chances.
Pinelli in some games will score 4 pts in some others he completely disappears. That is happening because he's limited talent wise, where as Mesar gets 5-8 chances per night. Other than Mesar none of the Ranger's players will be able to translate their game into the NHL, Mesar will be just as good and better as he's getting stronger.

He's got the full package and he's very modest, perfect for a captain in mtl eventually

I've seen the majority of his games in the OHL. Scoring 4 points and then disappearing is exactly how I would describe Mesar as well; one is more consistent and that would be Pinelli so far this year.
There's a lot to like about Mesar, but as a Kitchener fan he's been disappointing so far, granted the whole team has, and the last couple games he's looked like he's been in top form...I can tell I'm wasting my time based on how other MTL fans feel about your posts so that'll be it from me unless other fans have questions about Mesar from someone who actually watches him on a regular basis.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Saku Koivu special.

who? I think you mean Rem Pitlick special

 

[Tim Wallach]

I've seen the majority of his games in the OHL. Scoring 4 points and then disappearing is exactly how I would describe Mesar as well; one is more consistent and that would be Pinelli so far this year.
There's a lot to like about Mesar, but as a Kitchener fan he's been disappointing so far, granted the whole team has, and the last couple games he's looked like he's been in top form...I can tell I'm wasting my time based on how other MTL fans feel about your posts so that'll be it from me unless other fans have questions about Mesar from someone who actually watches him on a regular basis.

I don't think that's fully true about the fans here CC, I have been pretty honest/realistic about Mesar and most seem to appreciate that. What you said is bang on. Everyone on Kitchener has been frustrating this year because they're an uncoached, disorganized mess. Pinelli warrants his fair share of criticism, but he has absolutely, without question, been better than Mesar.
Mesar has been as frustrating as any of them because of the unforced errors. Again last night, he had a number of intercepted, ill-advised passes. Worse, he had several poor defensive efforts where he basically gave up. Pinelli was as quiet as ever last night, but on average this year, he definitely creates more chances than Mesar. There are games where FM has looked overmatched at this level. They're punctuated by little flashes of brilliance, which is encouraging. But nothing near what you'd hope for.

There's not doubt Mesar is at his best when he's skating a lot, but when he stops moving his feet (which is too much), he is pretty bad. Still a long way to go. At least we know the ability is there.

 

[Ezpz]

I don't think that's fully true about the fans here CC, I have been pretty honest/realistic about Mesar and most seem to appreciate that. What you said is bang on. Everyone on Kitchener has been frustrating this year because they're an uncoached, disorganized mess. Pinelli warrants his fair share of criticism, but he has absolutely, without question, been better than Mesar.
Mesar has been as frustrating as any of them because of the unforced errors. Again last night, he had a number of intercepted, ill-advised passes. Worse, he had several poor defensive efforts where he basically gave up. Pinelli was as quiet as ever last night, but on average this year, he definitely creates more chances than Mesar. There are games where FM has looked overmatched at this level. They're punctuated by little flashes of brilliance, which is encouraging. But nothing near what you'd hope for.

There's not doubt Mesar is at his best when he's skating a lot, but when he stops moving his feet (which is too much), he is pretty bad. Still a long way to go. At least we know the ability is there.

Sounds like we did Mesar's development a disservice by allowing Kitchener to have him. No offense but the absolute shitshow there has wasted an entire year for Mesar to work on flaws in his game, which was nearly the entire point of sending him to the OHL vs AHL.

 

[Goldenhands]

I don't think that's fully true about the fans here CC, I have been pretty honest/realistic about Mesar and most seem to appreciate that. What you said is bang on. Everyone on Kitchener has been frustrating this year because they're an uncoached, disorganized mess. Pinelli warrants his fair share of criticism, but he has absolutely, without question, been better than Mesar.
Mesar has been as frustrating as any of them because of the unforced errors. Again last night, he had a number of intercepted, ill-advised passes. Worse, he had several poor defensive efforts where he basically gave up. Pinelli was as quiet as ever last night, but on average this year, he definitely creates more chances than Mesar. There are games where FM has looked overmatched at this level. They're punctuated by little flashes of brilliance, which is encouraging. But nothing near what you'd hope for.

There's not doubt Mesar is at his best when he's skating a lot, but when he stops moving his feet (which is too much), he is pretty bad. Still a long way to go. At least we know the ability is there.

There is not much more Mesar can do lately, Im watching the games as well and kid is skating like the wind, he works extremmely hard and generates alot of scoring chances and chaos in the offensive zone while being cautious about his 2-way game. Kid is playing with the softest 6'2 player I saw since Corey Urquhart, so you cant really expect the kid to do much more at even strength with such porous linemates. Rehkopf has some nice hands, but is a slow processor, soft like butter and doesnt work well in tight. Kid is a no draft for me.

 

[Bombshell11]

I've seen the majority of his games in the OHL. Scoring 4 points and then disappearing is exactly how I would describe Mesar as well; one is more consistent and that would be Pinelli so far this year.
There's a lot to like about Mesar, but as a Kitchener fan he's been disappointing so far, granted the whole team has, and the last couple games he's looked like he's been in top form...I can tell I'm wasting my time based on how other MTL fans feel about your posts so that'll be it from me unless other fans have questions about Mesar from someone who actually watches him on a regular basis.

Lol?

Do you know many euro players coming from abroad that have had a better impact than Mesar?

I'll tell it to you square, we've been very disappointed sending Mesar to you guys. The feeling is mutual.

There is not much more Mesar can do lately, Im watching the games as well and kid is skating like the wind, he works extremmely hard and generates alot of scoring chances and chaos in the offensive zone while being cautious about his 2-way game. Kid is playing with the softest 6'2 player I saw since Corey Urquhart, so you cant really expect the kid to do much more at even strength with such porous linemates. Rehkopf has some nice hands, but is a slow processor, soft like butter and doesnt work well in tight. Kid is a no draft for me.

tell me about it

 

[Tim Wallach]

Sounds like we did Mesar's development a disservice by allowing Kitchener to have him. No offense but the absolute shitshow there has wasted an entire year for Mesar to work on flaws in his game, which was nearly the entire point of sending him to the OHL vs AHL.

With the coach they had, yes. Hopefully that changes now.

There is not much more Mesar can do lately, Im watching the games as well and kid is skating like the wind, he works extremmely hard and generates alot of scoring chances and chaos in the offensive zone while being cautious about his 2-way game. Kid is playing with the softest 6'2 player I saw since Corey Urquhart, so you cant really expect the kid to do much more at even strength with such porous linemates. Rehkopf has some nice hands, but is a slow processor, soft like butter and doesnt work well in tight. Kid is a no draft for me.

In the last few games he has generally been much better, yes, but this hasn't been true of his whole season. And last night, there were definitely more mistakes than strong plays. His chance generation has only been mediocre this year and you're right, some is on his linemates and a lot is on the system they play. But I hope he's learning he has to move his feet consistently. And there are still far too many forced passes to covered lanes. A video breakdown of his decision making would show a lot of room for improvement.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

I don't think that's fully true about the fans here CC, I have been pretty honest/realistic about Mesar and most seem to appreciate that. What you said is bang on. Everyone on Kitchener has been frustrating this year because they're an uncoached, disorganized mess. Pinelli warrants his fair share of criticism, but he has absolutely, without question, been better than Mesar.
Mesar has been as frustrating as any of them because of the unforced errors. Again last night, he had a number of intercepted, ill-advised passes. Worse, he had several poor defensive efforts where he basically gave up. Pinelli was as quiet as ever last night, but on average this year, he definitely creates more chances than Mesar. There are games where FM has looked overmatched at this level. They're punctuated by little flashes of brilliance, which is encouraging. But nothing near what you'd hope for.

There's not doubt Mesar is at his best when he's skating a lot, but when he stops moving his feet (which is too much), he is pretty bad. Still a long way to go. At least we know the ability is there.

Regarding the fans I was meaning that based on how other MTL fans react to that particular MTL poster, I could tell I was wasting my time with that person specifically and would answer questions other MTL fans had (if they had any). Just wanted to clarify, my post may not have been that clear.

 

[Bombshell11]

Regarding the fans I was meaning that based on how other MTL fans react to that particular MTL poster, I could tell I was wasting my time with that person specifically and would answer questions other MTL fans had (if they had any). Just wanted to clarify, my post may not have been that clear.

I dare you to tell me something that I don't know about Mesar.

Go for it

 

[Sagikev]

200 points!!!!!

 

[Goldenhands]

With the coach they had, yes. Hopefully that changes now.

In the last few games he has generally been much better, yes, but this hasn't been true of his whole season. And last night, there were definitely more mistakes than strong plays. His chance generation has only been mediocre this year and you're right, some is on his linemates and a lot is on the system they play. But I hope he's learning he has to move his feet consistently. And there are still far too many forced passes to covered lanes. A video breakdown of his decision making would show a lot of room for improvement.

I agree that the season as a whole hasnt been great, I think no one will debate this, we can blame the coach, the system, his teammates ect, but there is no denying that Mesar had a disappointing year himself too.. But lately, he is pushing hard and tries to be a difference maker every shifts. I missed the first half of the last game, but thought he looked pretty good again against London. I do agree that some of his passes dont get through at times and maybe kid should be a bit more patient, but in the whole, I find his passing has been pretty sharp and generates alot of scoring chances lately. For 5 great passes, 1 wont work, thats still a pretty good ratio.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I dare you to tell me something that I don't know about Mesar.

Go for it

Did you know his dad , Jan , wanted him to be a soccer player not a hockey player.


I'm just kidding Jan of course you know this , being his dad and all

 

[Skip Bayless]

He reminds me of a young Jan Bulis.

 

[Bombshell11]

I agree that the season as a whole hasnt been great, I think no one will debate this, we can blame the coach, the system, his teammates ect, but there is no denying that Mesar had a disappointing year himself too.. But lately, he is pushing hard and tries to be a difference maker every shifts. I missed the first half of the last game, but thought he looked pretty good again against London. I do agree that some of his passes dont get through at times and maybe kid should be a bit more patient, but in the whole, I find his passing has been pretty sharp and generates alot of scoring chances lately. For 5 great passes, 1 wont work, thats still a pretty good ratio.

I bet you the PP strat they're employing is killing him inside. They're way to static, he likes to move with the puck, use his agility and speed to make openings but he doesn't have alot of opportunities to do that.

 

[Tim Wallach]

I agree that the season as a whole hasnt been great, I think no one will debate this, we can blame the coach, the system, his teammates ect, but there is no denying that Mesar had a disappointing year himself too.. But lately, he is pushing hard and tries to be a difference maker every shifts. I missed the first half of the last game, but thought he looked pretty good again against London. I do agree that some of his passes dont get through at times and maybe kid should be a bit more patient, but in the whole, I find his passing has been pretty sharp and generates alot of scoring chances lately. For 5 great passes, 1 wont work, thats still a pretty good ratio.

Agreed completely there. I still love his skillset. He's just working through things and that's what development is all about.

 

[Goldenhands]

I bet you the PP strat they're employing is killing him inside. They're way to static, he likes to move with the puck, use his agility and speed to make openings but he doesn't have alot of opportunities to do that.

Thats pretty static indeed, the puck doesnt move very quickly unless Mesar is the one moving and distributing it.

 

[cphabs]

I dare you to tell me something that I don't know about Mesar.

Go for it

He has webbed feet

 

[junyab]

Again, if you don't watch Kitchener or keep up with the team you wouldn't understand just how big of a cluster F this season has been.

 

[Bombshell11]

I mean look at him, he's literally entering the offensive zone 1v4 like it was a walk in the park... he attracts the whole squad at him and and that pass at the end... what a beauty, we're very fortunate he's our player he's going to become a beast for us.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I mean look at him, he's literally entering the offensive zone 1v4 like it was a walk in the park... he attracts the whole squad at him and and that pass at the end... what a beauty, we're very fortunate he's our player he's going to become a beast for us.

He is really skilled, great two-way ability aswell. I have big hope for him!