Prospect Info: Filip Mesar

[Habs Halifax]

You're putting too much value into Newhook, Mesar's upside is infinitly better. Allow Hage to deveop first and then we'll see. Beck does not have Mesar's offensive talent.

Dach, hasn't played a full season season yet where he's healthy

Laine, question mark question mark question mark

PP is trash and Mesar is really good on the PP

This is the current top 6 he'll be fighting for a spot?

He'll be ok

I hope Mesar busts his ass off and proves the doubters wrong. Always cheering for good stories like this but not going to hold my breath.

If Mesar cares and has the will power to improve his flaws... there is no shortage of development coaches to help him get there. Ice time in Laval is wide open for him to take.

Stay hungry and show up each shift. Learn from mistakes.

 

[CHwest]

You're literally making up your own definition of a scoring chance.

But again, if Mesar plays the entire game in the offensive zone, preventing the other teams lines from exiting that zone, that is not valuable? Ok, thanks.

That is a pretty big if.

 

[Big Lurk]

Thicc

One could even say he's...

Tiger Thicc

 

[the]

Mesar doing pretty good for a bust.

 

[Tyson]

Mesar doing pretty good for a bust.

Who knew?
For 2+ years the experts on the internet have been screaming BUST!

I have watched all 4 Laval games and he is a fun, skilled player!

 

[Bombshell11]

Who knew?

If Mesar was put on the first PP he would have 3 pts tonight

 

[Tyson]

If Mesar was put on the first PP he would have 3 pts tonight

He should be on the 1st unit

 

[Bombshell11]

Filip "Bobby Orr" Mesar

 

[Egresch]

Filip "Bobby Orr" Mesar

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Frame it, man. Filip Mešár: The Flying Assist Moment

 

[junyab]

Who knew?
For 2+ years the experts on the internet have been screaming BUST!

I have watched all 4 Laval games and he is a fun, skilled player!

I did. And have said so in numerous posts. Mostly everyone just looked at his points in Kitchener and said he should be producing more, without knowing the whole story about Kitchener's issues during that time.

So I'll restate:
- I have his upside potential to be a 55-65pt top 6 forward, and he'll require the opportunity to reach it, if he's placed in a bottom role he won't be able to play himself to the top 6, (think Sergei Samsonov lite)
- his downside, PPG player in the AHL

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

If all goes right with him, he can be a similar player to Mikael Granlund who racks up a ton of assists and is good on the PP. With how shitty our PP and secondary are, we could use that type of player.

Between Dach, Newhook, Kapanen, Beck, Heineman, Roy, Hage, Demidov and Mesar there should be a lot of competition for spots in the middle six on the roster in the near future so hopefully we start seeing young guys make the most with their opportunities.

 

[Bombshell11]

If all goes right with him, he can be a similar player to Mikael Granlund who racks up a ton of assists and is good on the PP.

With how shitty our PP and secondary are, we could use that type of player.

Mesar will do this in the NHL as well

We've gotten too used of prospects busting around here that we're failling to recognize the great talents.

Mesar had no idea how to defend 1 month ago. They taught him and he learned. This guy's IQ is off the chart.

IQ, dedication, motor, speed, passion... he's it.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Who knew?
For 2+ years the experts on the internet have been screaming BUST!

I have watched all 4 Laval games and he is a fun, skilled player!

The funny part is that when people stat watched his numbers in Kitchener, he was a bust. But when they watched him at the WJC, he was a great prospect. Then he goes back to Kitchener, so the stat watching resumed, and he was back to being a bust.

Now that he's in Laval and people get to watch him, he's a great prospect again. It's always fun when they put points on the board, but even without the points, you see how good Mesar is.

It's almost like when you watch the games, you appreciate the player. And when you stat watch, you don't get the full story of their game. And with Mesar, it's been like that to a higher degree than most other prospects.

 

[Bombshell11]

The funny part is that when people stat watched his numbers in Kitchener, he was a bust. But when they watched him at the WJC, he was a great prospect. Then he goes back to Kitchener, so the stat watching resumed, and he was back to being a bust.

Now that he's in Laval and people get to watch him, he's a great prospect again. It's always fun when they put points on the board, but even without the points, you see how good Mesar is.

It's almost like when you watch the games, you appreciate the player. And when you stat watch, you don't get the full story of their game. And with Mesar, it's been like that to a higher degree than most other prospects.

And the experts around here made fun of him and questioned his integrity when they heard him critisize his kitchener teammates who were below him skill wise.

And now you see Pinelli 98 pts in the ohl is 0 -0-0 in 3 gp in his second AHL year

 

[Paddyjack]

Now that he's in Laval and people get to watch him, he's a great prospect again. It's always fun when they put points on the board, but even without the points, you see how good Mesar is.

It's almost like when you watch the games, you appreciate the player. And when you stat watch, you don't get the full story of their game. And with Mesar, it's been like that to a higher degree than most other prospects.

You just summarized the plot of "Trouble with the curve" with Clint Eastwood

 

[LaP]

You just summarized the plot of "Trouble with the curve" with Clint Eastwood

Don't think Adam Michaels is a cute as Amy Adams though.

 

[Adam Michaels]

And the experts around here made fun of him and questioned his integrity when they heard him critisize his kitchener teammates who were below him skill wise.

And now you see Pinelli 98 pts in the ohl is 0 -0-0 in 3 gp in his second AHL year

We've seen it countless times that success at the junior level doesn't equal success at the pro level. It depends on if you have pro-level qualities in your game. I haven't watched Pinelli or Brustewicz or Arcuri (who played ECHL last year) or Sop (who started in the ECHL this year). So I don't know what their games are like.

But Mesar seems to play a pro-level type of hockey. And having played pro hockey in Slovakia could be a big reason why. And maybe that wasn't as in sync with his Kitchener teammates, who probably played a more Junior-level hockey.

I said it multiple times last year and I'll say it again now, I though Mesar was ready for AHL last season. I understand why they sent him back to Kitchener. Laval had an over abundance of forwards last year. They had like 15 forwards to start the year and had like 3 healthy scratches initially. And within 2 weeks, injuries and call ups had them quickly down to 12 forwards. So instead of being caught in the forwards carousel with the Rocket, they sent him back to Junior.

He did have 1 assist in 2 GP in Laval last year before being sent down. So in his AHL career, he has 6 pts in 6 GP.

Don't think Adam Michaels is a cute as Amy Adams though.

We're both Adams. So there's that.

 

[Bombshell11]

But Mesar seems to play a pro-level type of hockey. And having played pro hockey in Slovakia could be a big reason why. And maybe that wasn't as in sync with his Kitchener teammates, who probably played a more Junior-level hockey.

That was the reason... also he was kind of inactive without the puck so it looked like he din't care when he just dint know what to do and clearly they dint know in Kitchener either

 

[Paddyjack]

You know, it could also be that Vincent understands how to coach him

 

[Paddy17]

You know, it could also be that Vincent understands how to coach him

He wouldn't have gotten the same opportunity with Houle, that's for sure. Now, he gets to play with Beck and Davidson, and they complement each other well. That helps a young player who's not superstar material...

 

[junyab]

I watched him A LOT during his tenure in Kitchener. During the 2022-23 season the entire organization was a gong show. And last year at times you could see his line wasn't always on the same page, And that wasn't entirely Mesar's fault.

And I don't think anyone should pay any mind for his comment. All he said was that he would try to find his teammates and they didn't connect with the pass. Sure that could mean that his teammates weren't keeping up with him (which is actually pretty true some of the time), but it could've also meant that he was passing too early and too eagerly. Or it was misinterpreted entirely.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The funny part is that when people stat watched his numbers in Kitchener, he was a bust. But when they watched him at the WJC, he was a great prospect. Then he goes back to Kitchener, so the stat watching resumed, and he was back to being a bust.

Now that he's in Laval and people get to watch him, he's a great prospect again. It's always fun when they put points on the board, but even without the points, you see how good Mesar is.

It's almost like when you watch the games, you appreciate the player. And when you stat watch, you don't get the full story of their game. And with Mesar, it's been like that to a higher degree than most other prospects.

This wavering back and forth with hot takes where he is a stud one night and a bust the next night is just entirely unknowledgeable fans( this encompasses at least 80% of fans) as they don't even remotely have the tools to evaluate a player based on a nuanced understanding of the game. I see this most commonly with the stat crowd as they need these metrics to dictate their narrative because without them they have no clue what's happening on the ice.

 

[Guy Larose]

This wavering back and forth with hot takes where he is a stud one night and a bust the next night is just entirely unknowledgeable fans( this encompasses at least 80% of fans) as they don't even remotely have the tools to evaluate a player based on a nuanced understanding of the game. I see this most commonly with the stat crowd as they need these metrics to dictate their narrative because without them they have no clue what's happening on the ice.

That's because admittedly, a lot of people here comment and bash without even watching the games, or just part of them. Every PGT you here stories of people saying they shut off the TV halfway, flipped the channels around all night, and even go get shitfaced. Then they comment about how X player is bad or otherwise. This board is no reference when evaluating a player that's for sure. Most people just like to complain for some reason.

 

[HabzSauce]

No different than Facebook, Twitter, IG, TikTok etc.....people who are devoid of knowledge pretending that they know more than the average pet about the world around them.

It is toxic and is unequivocally a negative force that needs to be culled.

It is impossible to actually have intelligent, nuanced, fact based conversations without being bombarded with other people's malfunctioning brains and their need for constant gratification that supersedes any modicum of civility and rational discourse.

There are plenty of posters who I really enjoy reading and interacting with and I don't want to ignore the rest, even though my ignore list is enormous I am open to different opinions as long as they are based in some semblance of reason and follow logical pathways. The posters that do not or can not do this are banished to the ether lol.

Not gonna lie it ain't perfect here but still by far the best place to talk hockey and have meaningful discussion. At least that I know of lol. Huge difference between here vs Reddit/FB/IG/etc

 

[stenlis]

That was the reason... also he was kind of inactive without the puck so it looked like he din't care when he just dint know what to do and clearly they dint know in Kitchener either

The inactive part is a misunderstanding. He was hovering in free spaces without the puck in the offense but he didn't receive passes in the OHL. That's become a bit better in the AHL but the play still looks off from NHL level.

Take his last "flying" assist to Beck: three Syracuse players started chasing him leaving Beck open. This would not have happened in the NHL.

The puck watching was worse in the OHL. I think he genuinely hated his time there.